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Seems he told Joe the same bunk about the CEO being a Christian.
groupie said:Several years back, he gave me one of Sureline's CEO"S number so I could talk to him about utilizing my trade association members to do work for them. He told me the guy was a devout Christian. I called him and he answered the phone in a bar and began to use the vilest language that even I, as a man that did not grow up in church, was shocked to hear. I then spoke to someone at the corporate office and he told me the guy is drunk nearly every day. I told Tom what I encountered and he did not believe me. He then tried to get me to invest some money touting a 12 % return. I declined.