The Positive Things That I Learned

I learned the art of pastoring, to take what people give you while gently leading them to give more.
 
I learned the importance of a personal gesture of gratitude like a thank you note, etc.
 
I learned the centrality that preaching ought to occupy in a church service, and that the pulpit is the preacher's throne.
 
Tom Brennan said:
I learned the importance of a personal gesture of gratitude like a thank you note, etc.
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This is a great one which I have used many times in my profession.
 
Baptist City Holdout said:
I learned it really doesn't take all that long to dry off in a suit after falling out of a canoe into the lake.
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Were you half of that couple who put the following rule in the handbook?

"Couples may go canoeing together; however, they must sit on opposite ends of the canoe" 
 
I hate canoes because they turn over so easily..... I laughed out loud at this rule....do they have locks on the tunnel doors
 
Sherryh said:
I hate canoes because they turn over so easily..... I laughed out loud at this rule....do they have locks on the tunnel doors
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"It's hard to paddle a canoe when you're drunk," said Tom tipsily.
 
Though I do not agree with the "read a verse of Scripture and depart never to return" style of teaching/preaching, I did learn to be practical when I speak.  This has helped me not only in preaching and teaching, but also in my everyday business life.
 
When I was working for Jim, he had a staff meeting and was chewing out a hapless staff member who had not completed an assignment. The staff member truthfully explained that he had been overwhelmed with other duties and honestly could not complete the assignment.

Vineyard snarled"What were you doing at 2:30 on the morning?" "Sleeping," replied the staff member. "Then stop sleeping at 2:30 in the morning and get the job done" Vineyard snapped.

Folks I KNOW THAT JIM WAS OVERDOING IT, but there is a legitimate principle here. I have seen complex church projects ruined because somebody decided they needed to clean their house. I have seen a complicated outreach flounder because a vital person received a lunch invitation and couldn't show up that day.

Get the job done!
 
Vince Massi said:
When I was working for Jim, he had a staff meeting and was chewing out a hapless staff member who had not completed an assignment. The staff member truthfully explained that he had been overwhelmed with other duties and honestly could not complete the assignment.

Vineyard snarled"What were you doing at 2:30 on the morning?" "Sleeping," replied the staff member. "Then stop sleeping at 2:30 in the morning and get the job done" Vineyard snapped.

Folks I KNOW THAT JIM WAS OVERDOING IT, but there is a legitimate principle here. I have seen complex church projects ruined because somebody decided they needed to clean their house. I have seen a complicated outreach flounder because a vital person received a lunch invitation and couldn't show up that day.

Get the job done!
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How long after that was it until said staff member moved  (or was moved) on down the road?
 
The positive I learned...

Never trust anyone who claims spiritual authority.
 
"If they haven't learned, you haven't taught!"  Marlene Evans
 
Vince Massi said:
When I was working for Jim, he had a staff meeting and was chewing out a hapless staff member who had not completed an assignment. The staff member truthfully explained that he had been overwhelmed with other duties and honestly could not complete the assignment.

Vineyard snarled"What were you doing at 2:30 on the morning?" "Sleeping," replied the staff member. "Then stop sleeping at 2:30 in the morning and get the job done" Vineyard snapped.

Folks I KNOW THAT JIM WAS OVERDOING IT, but there is a legitimate principle here. I have seen complex church projects ruined because somebody decided they needed to clean their house. I have seen a complicated outreach flounder because a vital person received a lunch invitation and couldn't show up that day.

Get the job done!
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Sorry but you are wrong here. Yes you should get the job done but if it means your health, or your family then it can wait. I remember working for literally 3 days straight with about 1-2 hours of sleep just to make sure things were running smoothly for a conference. I ended up passing out on the 3rd day in the middle of the cafeteria where we were setting up for a meal. Never again will I allow a project whether it be personal or for the church do that to me. Now I don't have to get 8 hours of sleep a night and usually maybe only get 4 or so but nothing is so important that you hurt yourself or family for it.
 
JustABigKid said:
Sorry but you are wrong here. Yes you should get the job done but if it means your health, or your family then it can wait. I remember working for literally 3 days straight with about 1-2 hours of sleep just to make sure things were running smoothly for a conference. I ended up passing out on the 3rd day in the middle of the cafeteria where we were setting up for a meal. Never again will I allow a project whether it be personal or for the church do that to me. Now I don't have to get 8 hours of sleep a night and usually maybe only get 4 or so but nothing is so important that you hurt yourself or family for it.
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(In my best Jim Vineyard voice) You stinkin' putrid deadbeat!  :)
 
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