The New President of Hyles Anderson College

[Jo]

Isn't this the guy who was booted out of his church after a few months?

I don't know... It's not in his bio.  http://hylesanderson.edu/administration/

I guess just keep the dirt under the rug.

http://www.fundamentalforums.org/hyles-anderson-college/dave-douglass-and-bethlehem-baptist-church-oneida-tn/

He probably got booted for trying to get the church out of the SBC.

I merged with a church that was conservitive Baptist.  But I only merged with the agreement that we would be independent, charter a new church and new constitution.
Been here going on 9 years by the grace of God.

I recently attended a SBC church when they were taking votes on the name of the church and some other items.  What was probably mundane to most of the congregation was absolutely fascinating to me.  One of the older leaders of the church got up and read the Article in the church constitution that stated what percentage of votes they needed on certain subjects, etc.  Then, they passed out the ballots, and the members voted.  Coming from FBC Hammond and other IFB churches, I was delighted to see that the people who pay the light bills and the pastor's salary had a say in the future of the church.

 

[prophet]

Isn't this the guy who was booted out of his church after a few months?

I don't know... It's not in his bio.  http://hylesanderson.edu/administration/

I guess just keep the dirt under the rug.

http://www.fundamentalforums.org/hyles-anderson-college/dave-douglass-and-bethlehem-baptist-church-oneida-tn/

He probably got booted for trying to get the church out of the SBC.

I merged with a church that was conservitive Baptist.  But I only merged with the agreement that we would be independent, charter a new church and new constitution.
Been here going on 9 years by the grace of God.

I recently attended a SBC church when they were taking votes on the name of the church and some other items.  What was probably mundane to most of the congregation was absolutely fascinating to me.  One of the older leaders of the church got up and read the Article in the church constitution that stated what percentage of votes they needed on certain subjects, etc.  Then, they passed out the ballots, and the members voted.  Coming from FBC Hammond and other IFB churches, I was delighted to see that the people who pay the light bills and the pastor's salary had a say in the future of the church.

FBC hammond was a representative republic.

You weren't in the meetings, where the 100 or so elected reps met and finalized proposals to present for a vote at business meetings.

The chance for those who paid the bills, theoretically, to influence, was at deacon election.

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[Vince Massi]

"Hollander" is a term that those of us who "aren't Dutch, so we aren't much" call the Dutch.
In business, they wont participate unless they and their fellow Hollanders get all the advantage.
It is a particular haughtiness. A sense of entitlement.  A racism. An economically unethical practice.

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Ha! Growing up in an Italian neighborhood in the US in the 1930's, my dad knew a gas station owner who was a Fascist. He insisted that an Italian is superior to a human being.

 

[16KJV11]

Isn't this the guy who was booted out of his church after a few months?

I don't know... It's not in his bio.  http://hylesanderson.edu/administration/

I guess just keep the dirt under the rug.

http://www.fundamentalforums.org/hyles-anderson-college/dave-douglass-and-bethlehem-baptist-church-oneida-tn/

He probably got booted for trying to get the church out of the SBC.

I merged with a church that was conservitive Baptist.  But I only merged with the agreement that we would be independent, charter a new church and new constitution.
Been here going on 9 years by the grace of God.

I recently attended a SBC church when they were taking votes on the name of the church and some other items.  What was probably mundane to most of the congregation was absolutely fascinating to me.  One of the older leaders of the church got up and read the Article in the church constitution that stated what percentage of votes they needed on certain subjects, etc.  Then, they passed out the ballots, and the members voted.  Coming from FBC Hammond and other IFB churches, I was delighted to see that the people who pay the light bills and the pastor's salary had a say in the future of the church.

When I was approached by this church to do a merge, I gave them the stipulations up front before any other negotiations were made.  I was honest and forthright with them.  They brought it to their church and voted to accept it or not.  They certainly had a vote in the future of the church.  BTW, they had already pulled out of the Conservative Baptist Convention a year before, so thankfully I didn't have to deal with that anyway.  The church was already essentially 'independent'! 

 

[Vince Massi]

I wonder if Dave Douglass didn't tell that church that he was a Ruckmanite.

About ten years ago, a Ruckmanite preacher candidated at the Baptist church down here. I warned friends from the church to ask him, and he admitted during a question-and-answer session that he was KJO. He hadn't planned on telling them.

 

[Jo]

Good to know, Prophet. 

I attended a meeting at Tennessee Temple one year when I was working on my masters.  It was in the 80s.  Several IFB pastor's from around the country came to discuss certain topics. They were getting ready to vote on having some type of agreement in counting attendance.  On the front row, Bob Gray from Florida stood and said something like "this is like the SBC that we all left".  They couldn't even agree on number counting. Of course, when egos are involved, it's hard to be rational.

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[prophet]

I wonder if Dave Douglass didn't tell that church that he was a Ruckmanite.

About ten years ago, a Ruckmanite preacher candidated at the Baptist church down here. I warned friends from the church to ask him, and he admitted during a question-and-answer session that he was KJO. He hadn't planned on telling them.

There is a huge difference between most IFB  "KJO", and a Ruckmanite.

I'm sure Dave's wife is grateful that he isn't a Ruckmanite.

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[Tarheel Baptist]

In academia this isn't so unusual. The old adage "those who can do...those who can't teach" seems to apply. At least from my admittedly limited perspective.

 

[RAIDER]

I wonder if Dave Douglass didn't tell that church that he was a Ruckmanite.

About ten years ago, a Ruckmanite preacher candidated at the Baptist church down here. I warned friends from the church to ask him, and he admitted during a question-and-answer session that he was KJO. He hadn't planned on telling them.

There is a huge difference between most IFB  "KJO", and a Ruckmanite.

I'm sure Dave's wife is grateful that he isn't a Ruckmanite.

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Exactly!

 

[patriotic]

I saw that, and I have wondered what took them so long to name him as  prez. Wasn't it obvious when he returned?

I will say that my mom actually liked him when she met him when we cooked at a camp in Michigan and he brought bus kids there. It says a lot if my mom liked someone.  I could not say the same for the guy who brought the bus kids the following year. Mom immediately disliked that guy.

I'm guessing he was a Hollander?

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She never really cared for that guy either, even though he never was at the camp in Michigan while we were there.  He put the derogatory in the friendly insult "Hollander".

Pssst...It was never friendly.

earnestly contend

Yes, it was. Take it from one whose grandmother was 100%