The Hacker vs. HACcer Test!

[Vince Massi]

A Hacker is a person who continues to believe the stupidity he was taught at HAC. A HACcer continues to believe the good he was taught. What started as a joke has become a serious test. EVERY POSSIBLE ANSWER HAS BEEN TAUGHT BY HAC, JACK HYLES, OR THE ADMINISTRATION, whether or not I agree with them. This is not a rigged test in which the people who agree with me get the highest score, because in some cases I disagree with all of the answers.

For every question, choose the ONE answer that is closest to what you believe.

What is the most effective means of soul-winning?
1) Get children to repeat a prayer
2) Get people to repeat a prayer
3) Use the Romans Road
4) Make the person acknowledge that he is going to Hell

What is repentence?

1) A good work that you hope will follow salvation
2) An essential part of salvation


What do you believe about the Dave Hyles scandal?

1) I have never heard anything about it
2) I’m not getting bent out of shape over something that happened thirty years ago
3) This is nothing but gossip
4) Jack Hyles honestly didn’t realize what was going on
5) Jack Hyles tried to solve the problem privately


What do you believe about the Roadway Gang?

1) We should not tell anyone about it, because it will destroy their ministries
2) They deserved to be expelled


Jim Vineyard used to tell “Man of God” stories, with himself in the starring role. What do you believe?

1) He was a success in the ministry, so the stories must be true
2) After he left, he was rarely mentioned, so the stories must not be true.


Why did Jim Vineyard leave HAC?

1) God called him to Oklahoma
2) To protect his sons from Dave Hyles
3) They ran him off


What do you believe about the Jennie Nischic afair?
1) It was proven in court that Hyles was innocent
2) Hyles did absolutely nothing wrong
3) Hyles didn’t have time for an affair
4) Vic  Nischic failed to prove his case
5) Hyles got into trouble for acting unwisely

When did Jack Hyles become KJO?
1) He was always that way
2) As he matured, he grew into it
3) After the Dave Hyles scandal blew up


Why is HAC unaccreditted?

1) It is a tool of Satan to control Christian colleges
2) The superior does not seek the approval of the inferior
3) You don’t need it to be an IFB preacher
4) HAC can’t meet the academic  requirements
5) HAC would then be required to stop falsifying records.

Add up the numbers for the answers you chose, and then check your result below.

One to Nine-HAC should give you a Who’s Who Award for Academic Excellence
Ten to Eighteen—you’re a Hacker!
Nineteen to Twenty-one—you’re a fudsy footer!
Twenty-two to Thirty-one—You’re a HACcer!
Thirty-two or above—You were home schooled by someone without a college diploma

 

[Norefund]

I believe the lack of comments is due to the lack of alternate choices. I also disagree with the definitions of hacker vs HACer.

HACer - one who attended Hyles Anderson College - regardless of present day beliefs. I base this on the comments of most of the members here who may believe all, little or none of what they were taught at HAC but still like to participate in the conversations.

I consider the term hacker completely unrelated to this forum or most of the conversations we have here as it is a commonly used term in the modern lexicon of the world at large.

Hacker:
noun
1. a person or thing that hacks.
2.Slang. a person who engages in an activity without talent or skill:weekend hackers on the golf course.
3.Computer Slang.
a person who has a high level of skill in computer technology or programming; a computer expert or enthusiast:
My brother is a real hacker—he fixed my laptop in no time.
a computer user who attempts to gain unauthorized access to proprietary computer systems:
A hacker got into my computer remotely and wiped my hard drive!

 

[Vince Massi]

I have to agree with the first part, NoRefund. In some cases, I don't like any of the answers. But I limited myself to answers that were actually taught there.

 

[RAIDER]

Vince, once again you speak of that which you do not know.  There is no such animal as a HACcer.  It is some word that you are trying to invent.

 

[Vince Massi]

Vince, once again you speak of that which you do not know.  There is no such animal as a HACcer.  It is some word that you are trying to invent.

No, Raider. Years before you attended HAC, we were calling ourselves "HACcers" (often spelled "Haccers"). We were loyal to, and we loved. HAC. In its opening years, HAC was a wonderful place to be. The place was filled with Godliness, the students practiced Godliness, and we were amazed at how God was blessing us. We were HACcers and grateful to God about it.

The word "Hacker" was invented later by people who were disenchanted with the place. Over time, "Hacker" came to mean "a person who believes in and practices the stupidity he was taught at HAC."

 

[RAIDER]

Vince, once again you speak of that which you do not know.  There is no such animal as a HACcer.  It is some word that you are trying to invent.

No, Raider. Years before you attended HAC, we were calling ourselves "HACcers" (often spelled "Haccers"). We were loyal to, and we loved. HAC. In its opening years, HAC was a wonderful place to be. The place was filled with Godliness, the students practiced Godliness, and we were amazed at how God was blessing us. We were HACcers and grateful to God about it.

The word "Hacker" was invented later by people who were disenchanted with the place. Over time, "Hacker" came to mean "a person who believes in and practices the stupidity he was taught at HAC."

I attended from the late '70s to the early '80s and the term "HACcer" had already died off.  The way that you describe HAC was the same way it was when I was a student.  I will say that your definition of a Hacker is somewhat accurate.

 

[cast.sheep]

It's threads like this that make me wonder why I even read anything posted by Vince Massi.  What an idiot.  (giggle)

 

[RAIDER]

It's threads like this that make me wonder why I even read anything posted by Vince Massi.  What an idiot.  (giggle)

That'll preach!!

 

[Vince Massi]

And what is is about Cast's sermon that impresses you the most, Raider?

Her disobedience to the command not to judge?

Her disobedience to the command not to speak evil one of another?

Her disobedience to the commands not to scorn?

 

[cast.sheep]

You come across as the most self-righteous poster I have ever read. And you think you are so smart! And so spiritual! And so humble! You are so impressed with yourself. And it is so obvious.

Great man of God you are! And if someone doesn't believe it...they should just ask you! I am sure you would be happy to spout off some verses that support that opinion of yourself. Or some statistic about how God is using you so greatly! It doesn't even matter if we are impressed with you...or if God is impressed with you...you are impressed with yourself enough for all of us!

I am a sinner. I admit it. No need to point out that fact. Do you believe that about yourself? I know what you SAY...but do you really believe it? Or are you completely blinded by your self-importance to the ministry?

Do you even realize how you come across??? 

 

[Vince Massi]

And if I begin disobeying the Biblical commands not to judge, not to speak evil of the brethren, and not to scorn, I will advance to your spiritual level?

 

[cast.sheep]

And if I begin disobeying the Biblical commands not to judge, not to speak evil of the brethren, and not to scorn, I will advance to your spiritual level?

(giggle)

And with this response you have done the very thing of which you have accused me. And you don't even realize it. Which proves my earlier post completely.

But....either way....We are both God's children. And we are squabbling just like children. I can just hear God now: Vince and Cast....don't make me come in there!!!!

 

[prophet]

And what is is about Cast's sermon that impresses you the most, Raider?

Her disobedience to the command not to judge?

Her disobedience to the command not to speak evil one of another?

Her disobedience to the commands not to scorn?

You mean the command by this guy, spoken in mystery, to cast a stumbling block?

Mat 13:10-15
  10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance:but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables:because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Mat 5:17
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets:I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

1Co 1:23
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;


Mat 7:1-2
Chapter 7
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.


Or maybe this?:
1Co 6:2-5
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

We are to judge, knowing that we are also judged in the same manner, by our peers, who have the same Spirit that we do.

 

[Binaca Chugger]

YMBAH if:  You can't spell the word HACker!

Enough of this already.  There is no such breed as a HACcer.  No English word has the double "c" pronounced as "/C."  There is no such person as a "HACer."  This would have a long vowel A sound.  You stinkin' HACkers! 

We have long established there is a difference between a HACker and one who attended HAC.  Just go ahead and embrace the fact that you are a HACker, HACker!  If you continue to believe what you were taught is good - you are a HACker.  If not, you are a no-good-dirty-ricker-bracker-stinkin-liberal rebel.

You old fogies from the 70's may have given yourself the name HACker as a term of endearment, but my HB Punk predecessors quickly began using the term to describe people exactly as you did: A person who believes in and practices the stupidity taught at HAC and is grateful about it.

Bunch o' stinkin' HACkers - sheesh!

 

[RAIDER]

YMBAH if:  You can't spell the word HACker!

Enough of this already.  There is no such breed as a HACcer.  No English word has the double "c" pronounced as "/C."  There is no such person as a "HACer."  This would have a long vowel A sound.  You stinkin' HACkers! 

We have long established there is a difference between a HACker and one who attended HAC.  Just go ahead and embrace the fact that you are a HACker, HACker!  If you continue to believe what you were taught is good - you are a HACker.  If not, you are a no-good-dirty-ricker-bracker-stinkin-liberal rebel.

You old fogies from the 70's may have given yourself the name HACker as a term of endearment, but my HB Punk predecessors quickly began using the term to describe people exactly as you did: A person who believes in and practices the stupidity taught at HAC and is grateful about it.

Bunch o' stinkin' HACkers - sheesh!

Nowv that's what I'm talking about!!

 

[Norefund]

So, are you saying the perpetrators of the stolen information from Sony are true believing former or current Hyles Anderson students? Where is the "k" in Hyles Anderson College?

When I was a student at HBHS, we called the weirdos from Hyles Anderson HACers and the college was referred to as HAC. We were reprimanded and told to refer to them as Hylanders (which we never did).

YMBAH if:  You can't spell the word HACker!

Enough of this already.  There is no such breed as a HACcer.  No English word has the double "c" pronounced as "/C."  There is no such person as a "HACer."  This would have a long vowel A sound.  You stinkin' HACkers! 

We have long established there is a difference between a HACker and one who attended HAC.  Just go ahead and embrace the fact that you are a HACker, HACker!  If you continue to believe what you were taught is good - you are a HACker.  If not, you are a no-good-dirty-ricker-bracker-stinkin-liberal rebel.

You old fogies from the 70's may have given yourself the name HACker as a term of endearment, but my HB Punk predecessors quickly began using the term to describe people exactly as you did: A person who believes in and practices the stupidity taught at HAC and is grateful about it.

Bunch o' stinkin' HACkers - sheesh!

 

[Vince Massi]

Sorry Folks, but I was a HACcer before any of you came along. I probably should go back to spelling it "Haccer," though.

Raider, this is the second time you have attacked me with clear, solid testimony about an event that occurred before you were at HAC.

Years ago, while lurking on the various FFFs, I noticed that few of the original Haccers would have anything to do with these sites. HAC started out as a wonderful place. Jim Vineyard introduced hatred, slander, and violence, but his Gangsters really only affected a small number of students. The students put a stop to it, and HAC ran him off while I was still there.

The FFFs have always attracted haters, people who needed help, people who wanted to help, people with justified anger, slanderers, and truth-tellers. From being one of the most successful Christian forums on the web, FFF has shrunk to a minor site on which a small number of attackers drive off new posters.

The FFFs have helped a lot of Haccers, including me, realize that we were not as alone as we thought in observing sin.And the sites have helped Haccers utilize the good things they learned at HAC.  But as the number of people giving false testimony grows, the site becomes steadily less beneficial.

 

[cast.sheep]

And the blower of all things strikes again!

Haha! I typed knower...and spell check changed it to blower! And it is so perfect that I am leaving it there! (giggle)

 

[Binaca Chugger]

Where is the "k" in Hyles Anderson College?

There is no "k" in HAC.  However, in English, we must use the diagraph "ck" in order to have the short vowel sound "a."  A "cc" would produce the "ch" sound and only one "c" would make the "c" deliver its soft sound "s."  To help us understand the word is describing one from HAC, we use capital letters for HAC followed by lower case letters "ker."  Hence: HACker.

So, are you saying the perpetrators of the stolen information from Sony are true believing former or current Hyles Anderson students?

Homophones.  A computer hacker is more like an HB Punk than a HACker - he is able to find his own way around the rules to accomplish what he wishes.  8)

When I was a student at HBHS, we called the weirdos from Hyles Anderson HACers and the college was referred to as HAC. We were reprimanded and told to refer to them as Hylanders (which we never did).

Props to you, my predecessor!  Hylander - sheesh - like a guy who wears a skirt is any better!  :

 

[Binaca Chugger]

Sorry Folks, but I was a HACcer before any of you came along. I probably should go back to spelling it "Haccer," though.

Raider, this is the second time you have attacked me with clear, solid testimony about an event that occurred before you were at HAC.

Years ago, while lurking on the various FFFs, I noticed that few of the original Haccers would have anything to do with these sites. HAC started out as a wonderful place. Jim Vineyard introduced hatred, slander, and violence, but his Gangsters really only affected a small number of students. The students put a stop to it, and HAC ran him off while I was still there.

The FFFs have always attracted haters, people who needed help, people who wanted to help, people with justified anger, slanderers, and truth-tellers. From being one of the most successful Christian forums on the web, FFF has shrunk to a minor site on which a small number of attackers drive off new posters.

The FFFs have helped a lot of Haccers, including me, realize that we were not as alone as we thought in observing sin.And the sites have helped Haccers utilize the good things they learned at HAC.  But as the number of people giving false testimony grows, the site becomes steadily less beneficial.

Sorry, Vince, but you are wrong.

HAC had so many more problems than the issues you had with JAV.  SO-O-O-O-O-O many more!  We can start with pride, head into the multitude of scandals and round up with the admonition to sacrifice your family for the sake of ministry.  SO-O-O-O-O-O many more problems than just JAV.

Remember, just because you weren't there to see it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.  Stop playing the ostrich.  Methinks maybe your recollection of HAC has been grandeurized in your memory.

I happen to like this formation of the FFF much better.  The vulgar are not allowed here.  The site is moderated to keep the link wheelers and trolls away.  Because of this, the quantity of hits and posters may be down, but the site is much more trustworthy and informational.  Good debates happen here, and, most of them are good debates - not just swearing and name calling at each other.  Let's not forget that the searches for this site may be down to the lack of scandal happening at FBCH - WAY TO GO PASTOR WILKERSON!