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The Difference Between True and False Prophecy
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The Jewish community cares NOTHING about the Gentiles. Millions of us could be slaughtered without one offer of help from them. This was according to two rabbis that I knew growing up. I also had a Jewish science teacher in junior high who stated quite clearly in a class of 85 kids that the Gentile was nothing more than refuse to be destroyed in any way possible. Now I have a Jewish bil who went to being a non-practicing New because of the hatred protected towards the Gentile population when he was growing up.
This would be more evident to folks like @biscuit1953 if we were under the same feudal forms of government and systems of justice as those in medieval Europe. We live under a form of government where the practical working out of rabbinical doctrines are prevented by things like bankruptcy laws and laws against predatory lending practices, and where there is no social hierarchy or lordship.
One can't paint with such a broad brush here in America today. I was employed for a short time by some Jews who are good people as far as the world measures goodness. They made their money with honest industry. They paid fair wages for honest labor. Worked on Saturdays when their ox was in the ditch, so to speak. And When Yom Kippur fell on a week day, we got the day off with pay. I don't know what denomination of Jew they were. I didn't make it a priority of mine to get to know them that well. All I cared about was doing my work and getting paid at the end of the week.
They were nothing like the Jew that visited this board who bragged about his wealth that others worked to gain for him, and how we goyim were barely worthy to be his servants, and how he could buy or sell us like cattle. I don't think he was the exception either. Can the rabbinical traditions make a different kind of Jew?
I haven't immersed myself in the Talmud, and I don't intend to. To the Jew, the Talmud is more authoritative than Moses (obviously, since they hate and blaspheme the Prophet that Moses said would replace him). And Luther was telling the truth about their teachings and of their persecution and oppression of the poor and the Christians in Germany.
But we don't need the Talmud, we have the testimony of the Scriptures that attest to the same things of the Jews in the first century of Christianity.
@biscuit1953 doesn't know what he's talking about, and he's lying when he says that the things that Luther wrote were born of a hatred of the Hebrew people.
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You're just repeating the lies about Luther, neither knowing the contexts your sources wrenched the quotations from, nor the Scriptures you're misapplying.
I could go back to the beginning of the world and trace our common ancestry from Adam and Eve, later from Shem, Enoch, Kenan, Mahalalel, Jared, Enoch, Methuselah, Lamech; for all of these are our ancestors just as well as the Jews', and we share equally in the honor, nobility, and fame of descent from them as do the Jews. We are their flesh and blood just the same as Abraham and all his seed are. For we were in the loins of the same holy fathers in the same measure as they were, and there is no difference whatsover with regard to birth or flesh and blood, as reason must tell us. Therefore the blind Jews are truly stupid fools, much more absurd than the Gentiles, to boast so before God of their physical birth, though they are by reason of it no better than the Gentiles, since we both partake of one birth, one flesh and blood, from the very first, best, and holiest ancestors. Neither one can reproach or upbraid the other about some peculiarity without implicating himself at the same time.
His use of the terms agree with Christ's use thereof and to the same purpose.
Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold? ... Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift? - Matthew 23:17, 19
It is not the same use of the term forbidden by the Sixth Commandment as expounded by Christ in Matthew 5.
The Jews teach that Jesus is a sorcerer, and his mother a whore. Further, they claim she was menstruating when she conceived Christ by whoredom with a blacksmith, which, according to their superstitions, results in mental deficiency and demon possession.
They know these things to be false, but like their fathers who blasphemed the Holy Spirit, they assert them nonetheless, appealing to their nobility as circumcised descendants of noble blood and lords over the gentiles to keep the simple Jew in bondage to their lies.
In the first place, they defame our Lord Jesus Christ, calling him a sorcerer and tool of the devil. This they do because they cannot deny his miracles. Thus they imitate their forefathers, who said, "He casts out demons by Beelzebub, the prince of demons"². They invent many lies about the name of God, the tetragrammaton³, saying that our Lord was able to define this name (which they call Schem Hamphoras), and whoever is able to do that, they say, is also able to perform all sorts of miracles. However, they cannot cite a single instance of any men who worked amiracle worth a gnat by means of this Schem Hamphoras. It is evident that as consummate liars they fabricate this about our Lord. For if such a rule of Schem Hamphoras were true, someone else would have employed it before or afterward. Otherwise, how could one know that such power inhered in the Schem Hamphoras? But this is too big a subject; after this booklet is finished, I plan to issue a special essay and relate what Porchetus writes on this subject. It serves them right that, rejecting the truth of God, they have to believe instead such abominable, stupid, inane lies, and that instead of the beautiful face of the divine word, they have to look into the devil's black, dark, lying behind, and worship his stench.
In addition they rob Jesus of the significance of his name, which in Hebrew means "savior" or"helper." The name Helfrich or Hilfrich was common among the old Saxons; this is the equivalent of the name Jesus. Today we might use the name Hulfrich—that is, one who can and will help. But the Jews, in their malice, call him Jesu, which in Hebrew is neither a name nor a word but three letters, like ciphers or numeral letters. It is as if, for example, I were to take the three numeral letters C,L, and V as ciphers and form the word Clu. That is 155. In this manner they use the name Jesu, signifying 316. This number then is to denote another word, in which Hebel Vorik [liar and deceiver, i.e. Satan] is found. For further information on their devilish practices with such numbers and words, you may read Anthony Margaritha.
When a Christian hears them utter the word "Jesu," as will happen occasionally when they are obliged to speak to us, he assumes that they are using the name Jesus. But in reality they have the numeral letters Jesu in mind, that is, the numeral 316 in the blasphemous word Vorik. And when they utter the word "Jesu" in their prayer, they spit on the ground three times in honor of our Lord and of all Christians, moved by their great love and devotion. But when they are conversing with one another they say, Deleatur nomen eius, which means in plainwords, "May God exterminate his name," or "May all the devils take him."
They treat us Christians similarly in receiving us when we go to them. They pervert the words Seid Gott willkommen and say, Sched wil kem!, which means: "Come, devil,"or "There comes a devil." Since we are not conversant with the Hebrew, they can vent their wrath on us secretly. While we suppose that they are speaking kindly to us, they are calling down hellfire and every misfortune on our heads. Such splendid guests we poor, pious Christians are harboring in our country in the persons of the Jews, we who mean well with them, who would gladly serve their physical and spiritual welfare, and who suffer so many coarse wrongs from them.
Then they also call Jesus a whore's son, saying that his mother Mary was a whore, who conceived him in adultery with a blacksmith. I have to speak in this coarse manner, although I do so with great reluctance, to combat the vile devil. Now they know very well that these lies are inspired by sheer hatred and spite, solely for the purpose of bitterly poisoning the minds of their poor youth and the simple Jews against the person of our Lord, lest they adhere to his doctrine (which they cannot refute). Still they claim to be the holy people to whom God must grant the Messiah by reason of their righteousness! In the eighth commandment, God forbade us to speak falsehoods against our neighbor, to lie, to deceive, to revile, to defile. This prohibition also includes one's enemies. For when Zedekiah did not keep faith with the king of Babylon, he was severely rebuked for his lie by Jeremiah and Ezekiel and was also led into wretched captivity because of it⁵.
However, our noble princes of the world and circumcised saints, against this commandment of God, invented this beautiful doctrine: namely, that they may freely lie, blaspheme,curse, defame, murder, rob, and commit every vice, however, whenever, and on whom they wish. Let God keep his own commandment: the noble blood and circumcised people will violate it as they desire and please. Despite this, they insist that they are doing right and good and meriting the Messiah and heaven thereby. They challenge God and all the angels to refute this, not to speak of the devil and the accursed Goyim who find fault with it; for here is the noble blood which cannot sin and which is not subject to God's commands.
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What harm has the poor maiden Mary done to them? How can they prove that she was a whore? She did no more than bear a son, whose name is Jesus. Is it such a great crime for a young wife to bear a child? Or are all who bear children to be accounted whores? What, then, is to be said about their own wives and about themselves? Are they, too, all whores and children of whores? You accursed Goyim, that is a different story! Do you not know that the Jews are Abraham's noble blood, circumcised, and kings in heavenand on earth? Whatever they say is right. If there were a virgin among the accursed Goyim as pure and holy as the angel Gabriel, and the least of these noble princes were to say that she is an arch-whore and viler than the devil, it would necessarily have to be so. The fact that a noble mouth of the lineage of Abraham said this would be sufficient proof. Who dares contradict him? Conversely, any arch-whore of the noble blood of the Jews, though she were as ugly as the devil himself, would still be purer than any angel if the noble lords were pleased to say this. For the noble, circumcised lords have the authority to lie, to defame, revile, blaspheme, and curse the accursed Goyim as they wish. On the other hand, they are privileged to bless, honor, praise, and exalt themselves, even if God disagrees with them. Do you suppose that a Jew is such a bad fellow? God in heaven and all the angels have to laugh and dance when they hear a Jew pass wind, so that you accursed Goyim may know what excellent fellows the Jews are. For how could they be so bold as to call Mary a whore, with whom they can find no fault, if they were not vested with the power to trample God and his commandment under foot?
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They further lie and slander him and his mother by saying that she conceived him at an unnatural time. About this they are most malicious and malignant and malevolent. In LEVITICUS 20:18 Moses declares that a man must not approach a woman nor a woman a man during the female's menstrual uncleanness. This is forbidden on pain of loss of life and limb; for whatever is conceived at such a time results in imperfect and infirm fruit, that is, in insane children, mental deficients, demon's offspring, changelings, and the like—people who have unbalanced minds all their lives. In this way the Jews would defame us Christians, by saying that we honor as the Messiah a person who was mentally deficient from birth, or some sort of demon. These most intelligent, circumcised, highly enlightened saints regard us as such stupid and accursed Goyim. Truly, these are the devil's own thoughts and words!
Do you ask what prompts them to write this, or what is the cause of it? You stupid, accursed Goy, why should you ask that? Does it not satisfy you to know that this is said by the noble, circumcised saints? Are you so slow to learn that such a holy people is exempt from all the decrees of God and cannot sin? They may lie, blaspheme, defame, and murder whom they will, even God himself and all his prophets. All of this must be accounted as nothing but a fine service rendered to God. Did I not tell you earlier that a Jew is such a noble, precious jewel that God and all the angels dance when he farts? And if he were to go on to do something coarser than that, they would nevertheless expect it to be regarded as a golden Talmud. Whatever issues from such a holy man, from above or from below, must surely be considered by the accursed Goyim to be pure holiness.
For if a Jew were not so precious and noble, how would it be possible for him to despise all Christians with their Messiah and his mother so thoroughly, to vilify them with such malicious and poisonous lies? If these fine, pure, smart saints would only concede us the qualities of geese or ducks, since they refuse to let us pass for human beings! For the stupidity which they ascribe to us I could not assign to any sow, which, as we know, covers itself with mire from head to foot and does not eat anything much cleaner. Alas, it cannot be anything but the terrible wrath of God which permits anyone to sink into such abysmal, devilish,hellish, insane baseness, and arrogance. If I were to avenge myself on the devil himself I should be unable to wish him such evil and misfortune as God's wrath inflicts on the Jews, compelling them to lie and to blaspheme so monstrously, in violation of their own conscience. Anyway, they have their reward for constantly giving God the lie.
In his Bible, Sebastian Monster relatesthat a malicious rabbi does not call the dear mother of Christ Mariabut haria; i.e., sterquilinium, a dung heap. And who knows what othervillainy they may indulge in among themselves, unknown to us? One canreadily perceive how the devil constrains them to the basest lies andblasphemies he can contrive. Thus they also begrudge the dear motherMary, the daughter of David, her right name, although she has notdone them any harm. If they do that, why should they not alsobegrudge her, her life, her goods, and her honor? And if they wishand inflict an kinds of disgrace and evil on their own flesh andblood, which is innocent and about which they know nothing evil,what, do you suppose, might they wish us accursed Goyim?
First of all, 'do not resist the one who is evil' is not an instruction to magistrates in their administration of justice. Evil doers must be punished. Luther is not advising the private Christian in this essay, and mentions that Christians are forbidden to take revenge or respond in kind. It's writen to the rulers in a Germany newly freed from the Papacy, when asked for his advice on a practical solution to the constant troublemaking of the Jews. And considering their form of government, it's very practical and humane advice.