The 47% Comment

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According to the US Census Bureau the median household income in the US for 2011 was $50,045. If we've reached the point where a household making 90% of the median income is eligible for government assistance we are in worse shape than I thought. Timothy, please understand I'm not throwing stones at you. If you need the programs then, by all means, use what's available. I'm just trying to figure out how we as a country survive economically when almost 1/2 of our citizens (47% I guess, duh) are receiving some level of assistance from the federal government. At some point we will have to sacrifice military spending and foreign aid to keep it up (and I am willing to open those up to review/debate). As I've said for several years, we will be where England is now in a few years. A former world power that other countries give a polite nod to, but nothing else.
 
Timothy said:
Weeks before Romney's 47 percent comment my boss and another coworker got into a debate over people on welfare. My boss said that people on welfare need to work harder .... then nationally we all heard Romney say "... there are 47 percent ... I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

My boss is a Romney supporter.

Since then I have thought about this 47% and how not everyone on welfare is unemployed. My family takes advantage of WIC, MCHIP, and a few other programs. At my income I am eligible and I am not ashamed to use these programs.

So, for all those who down the so called 47% on welfare or getting government assistance for health insurance I have a message:

Without some of us you could NEVER run your business. If we all were like you and your millions who would do the dirty work? Perhaps some of you should look at your own workforce and increase wages and prove you don't want us on welfare.

I feel better.
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You are not entitled to anything. If you don't like your job, then quit and be a bum.  With today's unemployment rate, there are probably plenty of people who would love to have your job.  Or maybe not with all the welfare they can get without not working for it(something for nothing).  It is always interesting to me how it is always the people who get something for nothing who are the least grateful for what they have and seem to think they are entitled to it and that the rich people would go broke without them.  Reality check:  rich people, by and large are not better off with you.  As a matter of fact, many of them would be better off selling their business and laying you off.  You ought to be grateful to them for what you have.  But you won't be because you're on the government gravy train.  Beware, however, because the day is coming when there really won't be any money left to fund it and the government will either have to cut services or the program altogether just like with health care. 
 
samspade said:
According to the US Census Bureau the median household income in the US for 2011 was $50,045. If we've reached the point where a household making 90% of the median income is eligible for government assistance we are in worse shape than I thought.
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This is the heart of the Cloward-Piven strategy.  Manufacture a crisis by getting government benefits to as many people as possible until it bankrupts the country.  Then exploit the crisis.  Declare it as a failure of capitalism (irony alert - you just used socialism to bankrupt the country) and then toss out the constitution and start over. 

It's a win-win for Democrats.  If they can't manufacture the crisis, then at least they got more people sucking on the government teat, which ensures that they'll continue voting Democrat.
 
BandGuy said:
Timothy said:
Weeks before Romney's 47 percent comment my boss and another coworker got into a debate over people on welfare. My boss said that people on welfare need to work harder .... then nationally we all heard Romney say "... there are 47 percent ... I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

My boss is a Romney supporter.

Since then I have thought about this 47% and how not everyone on welfare is unemployed. My family takes advantage of WIC, MCHIP, and a few other programs. At my income I am eligible and I am not ashamed to use these programs.

So, for all those who down the so called 47% on welfare or getting government assistance for health insurance I have a message:

Without some of us you could NEVER run your business. If we all were like you and your millions who would do the dirty work? Perhaps some of you should look at your own workforce and increase wages and prove you don't want us on welfare.

I feel better.
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You are not entitled to anything. If you don't like your job, then quit and be a bum.  With today's unemployment rate, there are probably plenty of people who would love to have your job.  Or maybe not with all the welfare they can get without not working for it(something for nothing).  It is always interesting to me how it is always the people who get something for nothing who are the least grateful for what they have and seem to think they are entitled to it and that the rich people would go broke without them.  Reality check:  rich people, by and large are not better off with you.  As a matter of fact, many of them would be better off selling their business and laying you off.  You ought to be grateful to them for what you have.  But you won't be because you're on the government gravy train.  Beware, however, because the day is coming when there really won't be any money left to fund it and the government will either have to cut services or the program altogether just like with health care.
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Um .... okay ....
 
Today, Romney admitted he was wrong.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/04/romney-on-47-comments-i-was-completely-wrong/?hpt=hp_t2

(CNN) - Mitt Romney said he was "completely wrong" when he argued that nearly half of Americans were "victims" and dependent on government.

The admission came Thursday as the GOP presidential candidate sought to clarify his controversial "47%" comments.


"Clearly in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question-and-answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right," Romney said on Fox News. "In this case, I said something that's just completely wrong."

Last month, secretly recorded video of Romney at a May fundraiser showed the Republican candidate saying 47% of Americans will vote for President Barack Obama "no matter what."

"There are 47% who are with him, who are dependent on government, who believe that, that they are victims, who believe that government has the responsibility to care for them. Who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing."


The non-partisan Tax Policy Center estimates that for tax year 2011, 46% of households will end up owing nothing in federal income taxes. But if payroll taxes are counted, the number of non-payer households drops precipitously - to an estimated 18% in 2011.

Adding to his argument about entitlement, Romney said his "job is not to worry about those people."

"I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives," he added.

"What I have to do is convince the 5 percent to 10 percent in the center that are independents, that are thoughtful."

After the videos, which were posted on the progressive news website Mother Jones, caught fire, Romney called a last-minute press conference with pool reporters while he was in California at the time.

The former Massachusetts governor acknowledged the comments were "off the cuff" and "not elegantly stated," but he defended the main point of the message, saying he was criticizing the increasing size of government and entitlement programs.

"We have a very different approach
 
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