That'll teach/preach!!

rsc2a said:
Vince Massi said:
Citadel, that's a good point, and I'll use it.

Okay, okay, I'll add X-Files' illustration as  good humor, but Citadel does have a good illustration there.

No,  it's not. There is nothing in that text that makes the point he is trying to make.

I hate to agree with rsc2a.  Really I do.  But that text is a non sequitur to the truth being presented.  The truth is true.  The scripture is true but the truth does not come from that text. 

When Elsiha said "'Please let me kiss my father and my mother, and then I will follow you" Elijah may have, and probably did doubt Elisha's commitment.  Elisha then shows Elijah, Elisha's commitment in action to prove to Elijah that he was truly diligent about wanting to follow Elijah.  A true example of "Burning your Bridges".  The real subtle line there is "using the oxen's equipment".  Not only were the oxen gone but the equipment was used to roast them showing that new oxen could not just be bought and integrated into the old equipment.  Elisha destroyed the entire farming rig.  I think it is a huge stretch to take any more from it than is there.  Just because a truth is true, when presenting it, use passages that back the truth and don't stretch other ones that needn't be.  People will sense logical fallacy.  They may not put their finger on it but it undercuts the truth you present.


 
 
[quote author=Citadel of Truth]The application: We shouldn't expect everyone to make the same sacrifices that we feel God would have us to make. Elisha did what he felt that God told him to do. He didn't worry about the others.
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A text with that application:

Peter turned and saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following them (who also leaned back on his chest at the dinner and said, “Lord, who is the one betraying you?”) So when he saw this one, Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, but what about this one?” Jesus said to him, “If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow me!

And probably not the best,  just the first that came to mind.
 
rsc2a said:
[quote author=Citadel of Truth]The application: We shouldn't expect everyone to make the same sacrifices that we feel God would have us to make. Elisha did what he felt that God told him to do. He didn't worry about the others.

A text with that application:

Peter turned and saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following them (who also leaned back on his chest at the dinner and said, “Lord, who is the one betraying you?”) So when he saw this one, Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, but what about this one?” Jesus said to him, “If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow me!

And probably not the best,  just the first that came to mind.
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I think that would be a Great Sermon Title "What is that to you?"

You could really focus on everything from Gossip, envy, jealousy, adultery and all manner of self comparisons with others.
 
TidesofTruth said:
I hate to agree with rsc2a.  Really I do.  But that text is a non sequitur to the truth being presented.  The truth is true.  The scripture is true but the truth does not come from that text...Just because a truth is true, when presenting it, use passages that back the truth and don't stretch other ones that needn't be.  People will sense logical fallacy. They may not put their finger on it but it undercuts the truth you present.

I don't disagree with you in the least, except to say that I believe you've misunderstood the intent. I am in no way saying that this passage specifically and clearly teaches this truth. I am saying that this is a thought that came to me as I was reading this passage. It is nothing more than an application that can be made from the incident as a whole.

If I ever had the opportunity to share this thought in front of a group, I would clearly express just what it is.
 
rsc2a said:
[quote author=Citadel of Truth]The application: We shouldn't expect everyone to make the same sacrifices that we feel God would have us to make. Elisha did what he felt that God told him to do. He didn't worry about the others.

A text with that application:

Peter turned and saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following them (who also leaned back on his chest at the dinner and said, “Lord, who is the one betraying you?”) So when he saw this one, Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, but what about this one?” Jesus said to him, “If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow me!

And probably not the best,  just the first that came to mind.
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I like it.
 
Mathew Ward said:
RAIDER said:
Do you have an outline from a Bible study or sermon that was a blessing?  Do you have something that you have recently learned from the Scripture that you would like to share?  Let's use this thread to share.

Here is the first of a 3 part series on Trials. The series was entitled "Embrace Through Grace". This is my outline, it may not make total sense to you...

“How to Respond to Trials”

Introduction
: What comes into our minds when we hear the word trial? What if the word was catastrophe or tragedy? Divorce, the death of a spouse or child, loved ones with a crippling disease, infidelity, children walking away from God, great financial loss, murder of a loved one, abuse within the family. When one of these occur in our lives what type of emotions grip our hearts and minds? When more than one occurs, then how do we respond? Trials bring many responses.

Trials bring:
Fear & Worry – Disciples in ship (Matthew 8:26 And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.)
Doubt – Peter walking on water (Matthew 14:31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?)
Questions – Man born blind (John 9:1-3 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.)
Unbelief – father with demon possessed child (Mark 9:24 And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.)
Self-Sufficiency – Abraham child (Genesis 16:2 And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the LORD hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai.)
Self-Sufficiency – Peter cutting off ear in the garden (Matthew 26:52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.)
Fix without God – Woman with issue of blood (Mark 5:25-27 And a certain woman, which had an issue of blood twelve years, And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse, When she had heard of Jesus, came in the press behind, and touched his garment.)
Denial & Anger – Peter (Matthew 26:69-74 Now Peter sat without in the palace: and a damsel came unto him, saying, Thou also wast with Jesus of Galilee. But he denied before them all, saying, I know not what thou sayest. And when he was gone out into the porch, another maid saw him, and said unto them that were there, This fellow was also with Jesus of Nazareth. And again he denied with an oath, I do not know the man. And after a while came unto him they that stood by, and said to Peter, Surely thou also art one of them; for thy speech bewrayeth thee. Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew.)
Disbelief – Job’s wife (Job 2:9-10 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die. But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.)

Why would trials bring about all these emotions, thoughts and outbursts? I believe one of the reasons is our unrealistic expectations that we have of God. Our unrealistic, unmet and irrational expectations that we have of God will result in a whole host of emotions (as noted above). Job 2:9-10 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die. But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips. An unmet or unrealistic expectation of God coupled with a trial or heartache will spell devastation and catastrophe for any family.

I’m not ascribing to God all the evil or wrong that people do. But the fact is that there are times that He does not intervene and has allowed the trial or catastrophe to occur.

We have the POTENTIAL in every problem, trial, tragedy and catastrophe to bring God honor and glory. But we will need a biblical outlook and manner of life to do so!

Families go through trials. Families go through heartache. Families walk through the fire.

You have a desire to survive individually. However if you want to help others in your family survive you just can’t survive the trial you have to thrive in and through the trial! We must become like Christ Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. The greatest trial a person could ever go through was what Christ endured for you and I to be the sacrifice in our place.

Christ had an expectation to go through the trial, to embrace the trial, to rejoice and look to the results that the trial would bring, not His present suffering. Because of this attitude, philosophy or thought process He thrived through His trials and as a result we can too!

When my expectation is the realization that I was created for the honor and glory of God then I should not have any unmet, unrealistic or irrational expectations of God.

John 11:4 When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby. John 11:40 Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God? John 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

Sickness can be for the glory of God
Death can be for the glory of God
Blindness can be for the glory of God

We all have a different capacity to handle trials. But whatever your capacity is, God knows it.

Illustration: We are all like these glasses. Different sizes will hold different amounts of liquid. We all can hold and handle different amount of trials and suffering. The emotion and anguish that accompanies each different size of trial are approximately the same.

1 Corinthians 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

This would include the trials and catastrophes that come into our lives.

What to do when a trial or catastrophe comes into your life.

1. Give it to God

• This is the first thing you do, not the last resort
• Acknowledge it came from God or He allowed in your life
• It’s not an accident, it’s not bad luck, it’s not a government conspiracy

2. Don’t have an outcome planned or think it is in your control
• This is where having unrealistic, unmet and irrational expectations will cause you the most harm
• By predetermining the results you are setting yourself up for heartache (Proverbs 13:12 Hope deferred maketh the heart sick)

3. Trust God for how He wants it to turn out

• He is Lord
• He is Sovereign
• He loves me unconditionally
• He has allowed it
• Remember that His thoughts and ways are higher than my thoughts and ways Isaiah 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
• How much higher are the Heavens than the earth? The LMC (Large Magellanic Cloud) is 179,000 light years away from the Milky Way. So light traveling at 186,282.4 miles per second will take 179,000 years to reach it. And that is the closet galaxy! Is it any wonder God asks us to trust Him!
• My responsibility is to trust Him!

If God came to us before we became a Christian and said these are the things I want you to go through to bring me honor and glory, most of us (if not all) would have turned down Heaven. But remember it is an eternal relationship that God desires!

4. Talk honestly with God about how you feel.
• Talk about your fears, doubts, questions, unbelief, self-sufficiency, denial, anger and disbelief.
• This is what a relationship is!

5. Understand that He made us to bring Him honor and glory

• Not that it turns out your way
• Not that the person gets healed
• But that we trust Him, glorify Him and rejoice in Him in and through the trial!

6. Rejoice through the trial
• Praise Him for being God

7. Thank Him for growing your faith in the trial and after the trial

8. How you handle the trial will affect others
• Your physical family
• Your spiritual family
• Those you work with
• Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
• Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Conclusion: Do we have a small capacity or a large capacity for the amount of trial or problem that God allows in our life? I’m not sure that understanding that needs to be a part of the equation that we are figuring out. May we embrace the trial for God’s glory! May we ensure that our expectation of God isn’t unrealistic, unmet or irrational!

Mercy me sings a song The Hurt and the Healer (one of my favorites)

Breathe
Sometimes I feel it's all that I can do
Pain so deep that I can hardly move
Just keep my eyes completely fixed on You
Lord take hold and pull me through

So here I am
What's left of me
Where glory meets my suffering

I'm alive
Even though a part of me has died
You take my heart and breathe it back to life
I fall into your arms open wide
When the hurt and the healer collide

Some great thoughts!  Hope you post the other parts.
 
RAIDER said:
Some great thoughts!  Hope you post the other parts.

Part 2 - What Trials Bring

Introduction: How many of you have a pet peeve? Would anyone care to share theirs? All of us have situations, people, circumstances and events that agitate us or try our patience and even cause us to be short with people! All of us need to have more patience as we deal with ourselves, our families (physical family as well as our spiritual family), our circumstances, our jobs, the world and even God!

What are some of our excuses as impatient people?

• I should be able to do this faster and better than I am.
• He should understand me the first time so I do not have to repeat myself.
• I have so much to accomplish I will never be get it all done.
• There is no way that I can ever be helped to change. I am an impossible case.
• There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Why is it that everyone I come in contact with chooses the wrong way?
• Why can she not change quicker than what she is?
• Everyone should be as excited about the desire to grow and change as I am.

What are some of the consequences of being impatient?

• We run the risk of always being dissatisfied, upset, and angry with ourselves for our slow pace of growth and change.
• We easily lose our control and fire off outbursts of anger, temper, and blame on those who are slow to change and grow.
• We become a member of the "throw away" generation, discarding relationships, people, jobs, school, and church whenever things are not working out as quickly as we want them to.
• We withdraw prematurely from a helping situation because we are not seeing an immediate pay off for our efforts.
• We become pessimistic about life, seeing only the "half-empty cup" rather than the "half-filled cup."


People with patience bear their trials calmly. They deal with the disappointments and frustrations with ease. God wants us to stand like a rock in the face of adversity as a testimony to Him. Patient people are not hasty or rash but act with wisdom and discretion.

James 1:2-4 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

We see there that patience is a very, very important virtue for us as Christian to develop. James is not referring merely to the ability to bear things but to the ability to turn trials, suffering, disappointments and frustrations into positive Christian growth that has the opportunity to be a true witness for God’s glory!

Let me add that having unconditional love will give us patience! 1 Corinthians 13:4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

The context here, in James, refers to the way in which we handle these trials. How we go through the process of testing. Knowing that as we go through the process that it will produce unwavering faithfulness and maturity!

Patience isn't so much something believers receive as it is an attribute that God develops over time and through our experience.

When I go to the gym I like to ride the stationary bike. When I first started riding the bike it was for 5 minutes. But as I have continued to the gym I have built up my muscles and can go for much longer and on harder levels and harder workouts.

Think of patience as a muscle that you have to use in order to see it build. And the way that it is used is through trials, tribulations, disappointments and frustrations. Both large and small!

But may I encourage us to embrace our trials not for what they are but for what God can accomplish through them in our lives! (Embrace through Grace)

The human instinct is to cry out to God in bewilderment when tribulation, trials, disappointment or frustration come knocking. We blame. We resist. We complain.

What we don't do is say, "Thank You Lord for growing my patience and faith" We aren't taught or trained to think this way, but according to the Bible, that is exactly how we as Christians are to respond.

We also don’t consider trials a joy. But we need to understand and embrace them joyfully!

We want to be like Christ, but we don’t want to go through any trials or tribulations like He did!

Humanly speaking, praising the Lord for our tribulation is unnatural. Aren’t you glad that the Holy Spirit moves in at salvation!

However praising God for trials begins to make sense to us when we believe God's promise that good comes from our trials, tribulations, disappointments and frustration. Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

Accepting hardship as a means of growth is a radical concept. Even more extreme is the believer who praises the Lord for the storm. But we as followers of Christ have reason to rejoice.

We are not waiting on the Lord in vain.

We can praise Him for the solution He will bring!
We can praise Him for the lives He will change!
We can praise Him for the spiritual fruit He will develop in us.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Let’s think in terms of God as we go through a trial. Let’s say a trial would take 25 years to complete (Abraham and Sarah waiting for a son). That would be like 36 minutes to God!

Trials serve as a test for our faith. Do we really trust God? Is He really in charge of our life? Earthly hardships and losses put you and me on display for other to see our good works and glorify God! They are a witness for Christ! Trials form an essential part of God’s plan for his people. The God who will save us from the fate of the world will sustain us with joy in the midst of it.

Longsuffering or “Patience” is part of the fruit of the Spirit. Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. By the way so is joy!

We define patience as “endurance, steadfastness, and fortitude” in circumstances that cannot be changed. It also carries with it the connotation of “great” or “long tempered.” Which is the opposite of short-tempered, impatient, and easily frustrated. It means being able to stick with things and not to be derailed by adversity and is usually applied to having patience with people.

A patient person is mild, gentle, and constant in all circumstances. The real test of patience is not in the waiting but in how one behaves while waiting.

So you pull up to the traffic light. You are already late for an important meeting. You are waiting to turn left. The traffic is heavy. The light turns green and the first three cars move, but not the car in front of you. They are texting. You honk, they go and make the light but you do not. How do you react?

Someone once noted that “Patience is something you admire in the driver behind you, but not in the one ahead."

Most of us get agitated with someone else’s driving, not only in the illustration but also when you are a backseat driver. However my agitation with others bad driving isn’t the problem. My lack of patience is!

How you react will influence all the others in the car or in other instances.

Reaching the point in our life where we react in a Christlike manner takes practice, it requires the grace of God and it takes a willingness to put aside self and to surrender to the Holy Spirit.

In dealing with people may we keep in mind how God has dealt with us!

Matthew 18:23-30 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants. And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt. But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest. And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all. And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.

Don’t miss the amount. 10,000 talents would take 160,000 years to repay. 100 pence would take 100 days to repay. God has been infinitely more gracious, patient and forgiving to us!

Patience will not make our trials go quicker; neither will patience make the line shorter or the trip quicker; but patience always makes the delay more bearable and makes the task more enjoyable.

Patience is much more than the outward action of waiting—it is an inner, mental attitude that helps us to be calm in times of disappointment, tribulation, trial and frustration.

Colossians 3:12-17 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

1 Thessalonians 5:14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.

Did you ever think that God inspired the apostle Paul to put so much emphasis on the virtue of patience because it is such an unnatural way for us to act and think? It is goes against human nature, but it is an attribute of God that He wants His children to have!

When we can demonstrate patience in a trial or frustrating situation it is an indicator that we are growing in grace and knowledge. It is part of the transformation of becoming more like Christ.

Remember our complaining shows our lack of patience!

Conclusion: May we walk out of here tonight encouraged to embrace our trials not for what they are but for what God can accomplish through them in our lives! Remember embrace through grace!
 
“The Result of Trials”


Introduction: Academics teach us theory, but not life experience. It’s one thing to have blueprints to build a house; it is entirely a different thing to build the house. Likewise it is one thing to believe that you have faith in God, it is entirely a different thing to exercise that faith in God. 

What is real faith? What is feigned faith or can I fake my faith? It is one thing to talk of faith, it is another thing to live by faith! How do you and I know if our faith is real? Even though we have we trusted Christ for salvation. We also trust Him daily in our lives! Maybe it is Lord I believe but help thou my unbelief. Biblical faith is a faith that doesn’t need my help (Abraham and Sarah); it is simply relying on God! Faith that is solely trusting God alone is the type of faith I am talking about. Faith that has been placed in the crucible of life and refined. The faith that has gone from head to heart, from theory to practicality. A faith that is lived! Faith that has been tested and the results are showing us the authentic, genuine faith that we have, not the faith we think we possess. Many times we have the “Super-Christian” outlook about ourselves.

Since faith is precious to God, Christ must always be the object of our faith! God will prove the value and strength of our faith through the trials that come into our life. May we embrace through grace!

1 Peter 1:6-9 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations: That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

There are many OT references that are alluded to by 1 Peter 1:7

• Job 23:10 But he knoweth the way that I take: when he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold.
• Psalms 66:10 For thou, O God, hast proved us: thou hast tried us, as silver is tried.
• Proverbs 17:3 The fining pot is for silver, and the furnace for gold: but the LORD trieth the hearts.
• Isaiah 48:10 Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.
• Zechariah 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.
• Malachi 3:3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness.

So what is the trial of your faith?

It is an event or circumstance that could cause you to doubt God or even become bitter at God.

A trial is a means to prove the value, strength and genuineness of our faith.

Trials take on many forms
• Job (layoff, pay-cut, fired, Anti-Christian *Navy Nuke School Bible)
• Family (divorce, separation, money issues, discipline issues, Children, in laws)
• Church, National, Health, People, Death of a loved one

Remember all these trials are allowed to enter our lives to make our faith even more precious to God! Our Christianity is dependent upon the faith we possess.

• When our faith is tried it may result in us doubting the sovereignty of God or having a deeper trust in God’s sovereignty.
• When our faith is tried it may result in us doubting the goodness of God or having a deeper trust in God’s goodness.
• When our faith is tried it may result in us doubting the love of God or having a deeper trust in God’s love.
• When our faith is tried it may result in us doubting the provision of God or having a deeper trust in God’s provision.

But when we have this authentic, living, vibrant faith in God, when the fiery trial comes, our faith can be found to be strengthened, valued and genuine!

The trial doesn’t cause the result it only shows the result.

It is not a trial if we can only pass. A trial means we can fail and doubt God. (might be found)

The value, strength and genuineness of our faith is proved by the trials we walk through.

Why was Christ tempted of the Devil? To prove to us He was who He said He was. Why are we tempted? To prove to us we are who we say we are!

God brings suffering into our lives to purify our faith and to demonstrate its genuineness.

We have been transformed by God’s grace to the point that we get to the place that we rejoice in God so much that we are willing to undergo pain and suffering for His glory honor and praise.

Praise – With our Lips
Honor – With our Deeds
Glory – Highest Tribute! A life lived by faith and with faith in mind!

When our faith is strengthened it brings a calm assurance in the storm.

But faith is also compared to gold, for like gold it is refined and proved through fire. Peter reminds us again that the test may be intense. Life is sometimes anything but easy, and yet by God’s grace the lives of believers are filled with joy. Our joy comes from our personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ.

though—“which perisheth, yet is tried with fire.” If gold, though perishing (1 Pe 1:18), is yet tried with fire in order to remove dross and test its genuineness, how much more does your faith, which shall never perish, need to pass through a fiery trial to remove whatever is defective, and to test its genuineness and full value?

Why does God allow this suffering to occur? Faith is being proved genuine through the trials. One purpose of trials is to sift out what is genuine in a person’s faith. Those who follow God know that God uses trying circumstances to test their hearts and the lives of his people in order to mature them spiritually. Through these difficulties God often tests whether our faith is genuine.

Peter cemented his point with the illustration of a goldsmith. To form a useful object, raw gold must be cast into a mold. For that to occur, the solid ore must be melted, requiring a temperature of 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit (and we think 100 is hot). When the gold is melted, the impurities rise to the surface, where they are skimmed off or burned off. A goldsmith knows the gold is ready to cast when the liquid gold becomes mirror-like and he can see his face reflected in the surface.

The parallel in a believer’s life is obvious. Through the refining heat of trials, we as followers of Jesus Christ our faith is strengthened, it’s genuineness is seen and it’s preciousness to God is increased. This is a comfort to us while God is glorified by it and other believers are benefitted from it.

Warren Wiersbe reminds us, “The trials of life test our faith to prove its sincerity. A faith that cannot be tested cannot be trusted. A person who abandons his/her faith when the going gets tough is only proving that he/she really had no faith at all”

I need to note here that God’s purposes in present fiery trials may not be known in a week, a year, or even a lifetime but in eternity.

Hebrews 11:36-39 And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented; (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth. And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:

Conclusion: You know the story. The disciples are in the boat and here comes Jesus walking on the water. Faith causes us to get out of the boat and experience the storms of life! These storms cause us to fail and take our eyes off Christ, but they teach us and refine our faith. We need genuine faith that has been tried by fire!
 
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