So, America is 'Post Christian'....what else is new?

[Tarheel Baptist]

America is rapidly moving toward secularism....I didn't need a poll to tell me that.
I would assume that, as with previous generations, age tends to make one more conservative, but short of revival, the trend will continue....

http://www.barna.org/culture-articles/613-how-post-christian-is-us-society

 

[16KJV11]

This seems to follow the trend of the rest of the world.

 

[Castor Muscular]

Maybe we're getting close to when the full number of gentiles have come in. 

 

[rsc2a]

This seems to follow the trend of the rest of the world.

Except in Latin America, Africa, and Asia...

 

[brianb]

The poll said

81% have not attended Sunday School - Not all churches have Sunday School
81% did not attend religious small group - not all churches have this either. I've never attended one.
89% did not participate in a house church - not all Christians have either.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

If something or someone is "post-Christian" wouldn't that mean that the something or someone would have to be Christian to begin with?

 

[subllibrm]

If something or someone is "post-Christian" wouldn't that mean that the something or someone would have to be Christian to begin with?

The "something" would be the USA. Not too many years back the generally accepted idea was that this was a Christian country. Since that thought is no longer the norm and has been replaced with something else, we can say that this country is post (after) Christian (the previously accepted thought). Christians and non-Christians alike agree with that assessment and phrasing.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

If something or someone is "post-Christian" wouldn't that mean that the something or someone would have to be Christian to begin with?

The "something" would be the USA. Not too many years back the generally accepted idea was that this was a Christian country. Since that thought is no longer the norm and has been replaced with something else, we can say that this country is post (after) Christian (the previously accepted thought). Christians and non-Christians alike agree with that assessment and phrasing.

But agreement might be based on perception and does not necessarily mean reality.

 

[graceandtruth]

If something or someone is "post-Christian" wouldn't that mean that the something or someone would have to be Christian to begin with?

The "something" would be the USA. Not too many years back the generally accepted idea was that this was a Christian country. Since that thought is no longer the norm and has been replaced with something else, we can say that this country is post (after) Christian (the previously accepted thought). Christians and non-Christians alike agree with that assessment and phrasing.

But agreement might be based on perception and does not necessarily mean reality.

I can't believe it but I must agree with you Smellin Coffee.  Where is the shocked emoticon..........  

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

If something or someone is "post-Christian" wouldn't that mean that the something or someone would have to be Christian to begin with?

The "something" would be the USA. Not too many years back the generally accepted idea was that this was a Christian country. Since that thought is no longer the norm and has been replaced with something else, we can say that this country is post (after) Christian (the previously accepted thought). Christians and non-Christians alike agree with that assessment and phrasing.

But agreement might be based on perception and does not necessarily mean reality.

I can't believe it but I must agree with you Smellin Coffee.  Where is the shocked emoticon..........  

I must disagree with you both....no emoticon necessary  .
Based on the 15 metrics, America was once a Christian Society....as illustrated by the higher percentage of older adults still 'Christian'....again based on response to the metrics.

Get a clue or the next  thing you know you guys will deny scripture and vote liberal Democrat....like the low information voters! 

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]I must disagree with you both....no emoticon necessary  .
Based on the 15 metrics, America was once a Christian Society....as illustrated by the higher percentage of older adults still 'Christian'....again based on response to the metrics.[/quote]

It really depends on which time in history you take the snapshot. For example, church attendance was significantly lower in the late 1700s and climbed steadily to peak around the 1950s. It's still higher than much of those earlier years. Choose some of those earlier dates and the metrics would completely blow the point you're trying to make.

 

[Recovering IFB]

When we even a theocracy?

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]I must disagree with you both....no emoticon necessary  .
Based on the 15 metrics, America was once a Christian Society....as illustrated by the higher percentage of older adults still 'Christian'....again based on response to the metrics.

It really depends on which time in history you take the snapshot. For example, church attendance was significantly lower in the late 1700s and climbed steadily to peak around the 1950s. It's still higher than much of those earlier years. Choose some of those earlier dates and the metrics would completely blow the point you're trying to make.
[/quote]

There are 15 metrics...not merely church attendance.
The point, America is more secularized today than it was in previous generations. Unless, of course, you say differently....because I always think U B Right.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

When we even a theocracy?

What we even say?

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]I must disagree with you both....no emoticon necessary  .
Based on the 15 metrics, America was once a Christian Society....as illustrated by the higher percentage of older adults still 'Christian'....again based on response to the metrics.

It really depends on which time in history you take the snapshot. For example, church attendance was significantly lower in the late 1700s and climbed steadily to peak around the 1950s. It's still higher than much of those earlier years. Choose some of those earlier dates and the metrics would completely blow the point you're trying to make.

There are 15 metrics...not merely church attendance. [/quote]

Do you want me to consider more metrics? Whether or not more people attended a house church or Sunday School or a small group? You'll find that the 1800s aren't looking too good either.

[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]The point, America is more secularized today than it was in previous generations. Unless, of course, you say differently....because I always think U B Right.[/quote]

Some previous generations, not all previous generations. America hasn't experienced a steady slide since her founding, but ebbs and flows.

 

[Recovering IFB]

When we even a theocracy?

What we even say?

By your posts, you act like it

 

[subllibrm]

When we even a theocracy?

What we even say?

How I even laughed!  ;D

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

When we even a theocracy?

What we even say?

By your posts, you act like it

Like what?

 

[Castor Muscular]

I ran this thread through Google Translate, and I still don't understand what anyone is saying.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]I must disagree with you both....no emoticon necessary  .
Based on the 15 metrics, America was once a Christian Society....as illustrated by the higher percentage of older adults still 'Christian'....again based on response to the metrics.

It really depends on which time in history you take the snapshot. For example, church attendance was significantly lower in the late 1700s and climbed steadily to peak around the 1950s. It's still higher than much of those earlier years. Choose some of those earlier dates and the metrics would completely blow the point you're trying to make.

There are 15 metrics...not merely church attendance.

Do you want me to consider more metrics? Whether or not more people attended a house church or Sunday School or a small group? You'll find that the 1800s aren't looking too good either.

[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]The point, America is more secularized today than it was in previous generations. Unless, of course, you say differently....because I always think U B Right.[/quote]

Some previous generations, not all previous generations. America hasn't experienced a steady slide since her founding, but ebbs and flows.
[/quote]


True, to a certain extent...i.e. the Great Awakenings.
You seem to miss the point...your modus operandi. 

America has never declared a state religion....which would go against one of the reasons for her founding.

A "Christian nation.", doesn't mean that the United States has an official or legally-preferred religion or church...or followers of other religions are inferior or less citizens.

But this nation, its institutions and laws, was founded on Biblical principles basic to Christianity and to Judaism from which it evolved.

The great Democrat (an oxymoron today ) Harry Truman said "The fundamental basis of this nation's laws was given to Moses on the Mount. The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings we get from Exodus and Saint Matthew, from Isaiah and Saint Paul. I don't think we emphasize that enough these days. If we don't have a proper fundamental moral background, we will finally end up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the State."