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Castor Muscular said:christundivided said:I will say, that I think SM has made a bad choice. I am sure he has many questions. We all do. No one knows everything and one must become comfortable with their own theology. Its a sign of maturity in Christ Jesus. I question whether he actually believes what he has written or he is just exploring possibilities. Its a dangerous thing to reject the Gospel of Paul. I don't see him doing this. I think he is just fight a battle with systematically establishing what he believes.
I don't go nearly to the extreme that SC seems to go, but I sympathize with SC. I have a lot of trouble with some of the NT epistles.
Hebrews, in some places, is a horrid mess. To paraphrase, "If you fall away from salvation, there's no way to be restored because it's like crucifying Christ all over again. But I am confident of better things of you, things that accompany salvation (which, by the way, you can fall away from permanently, so there really is no distinction here for "better things of you")."
That makes no sense. And I don't think it's a matter of the writer saying something profound and difficult to understand. I think the writer himself was confused and didn't really know what he was saying.
Some of the writing is so bad I even wonder if his reference to Isaac being the only begotten son of Abraham is just a stupid mistake, and not a meaningful symbol of Christ.
James seems little more than "a bunch of sayings I heard my brother say", with additional "works is required in salvation" BS added. I can unravel James to see the point that salvation produces works, but he says it so badly.
2 Peter is highly suspect in several regards.
And so on. I used to think my faith would be shattered if I didn't believe every word of the NT was inspired and God-breathed, but that's not at all how I feel. I am confident of most of the NT. But some of it seems like it doesn't belong there.
I agree.
As far as Hebrews is concerned....
The key to Hebrews 6:6 is verse 5.
Heb 6:5 and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come,
I have a good friend that reminds me often.... that the Kingdom of God is not for tasters.... but drinkers. Verse 6 is a reference to those who have rejected the sacrifice of Christ Jesus and thus.... look for another means of salvation. Another "cross" if you would. While the passage has caused a lot of controversy. I don't see it as being so "controversial". The writer of Hebrews is making an "eloquent argument". An allusion. This is one of the reason I personally believe Apollos wrote Hebrews. Hebrews is full of "artistic devices".
Hebrews 11:17 is both a textual issue and interpretation issue. Textually, there is very little evidence to support only "begotten". However, it does clearly say "only son". Isaac was the only promised son. His relationship with Hagar produced a child of the "flesh".... but NOT the child of "promise". In such a manner, you can see a foreshadowing of relationship between Adam and Christ. Also, at the time of the offering, Abraham had not take Keturah for wife after the death of Sarah.