Roman Catholics hold KJV in high regard, claim major part in authorship

[subllibrm]

were the Greek NT manuscripts on which the printed TR editions were based actually whole, completely homogeneous, and nearly perfect

Of course not.  Try to follow the discussion. The Greek text received improvement by the Reformation BIble dynamic of utilizing the historic Latin lines, the ECW and faith-consistent textual analysis.

Steven

Oh I get it now, they were smarter than anyone else. And they had the Reformation Bible dynamic secret decoder ring. No wonder they were able to "restore" the missing perfection that God had somehow failed to preserve until they came along.

 

[Steven Avery]

The historically accepted Greek text was used by a wide body of churches.

Rick, since you say the Geneva Bible is a good Bible, you should have no difficulty understanding the improvement of that historic Greek text by the Reformation Bible scholarship.

 

[praise_yeshua]

The historically accepted Greek text was used by a wide body of churches.

Rick, since you say the Geneva Bible is a good Bible, you should have no difficulty understanding the improvement of that historic Greek text by the Reformation Bible scholarship.

Another idiotic statement. The "Reformation Bible scholarship" didn't improve the "historic text".

 

[subllibrm]

The historically accepted Greek text was used by a wide body of churches.

Rick, since you say the Geneva Bible is a good Bible, you should have no difficulty understanding the improvement of that historic Greek text by the Reformation Bible scholarship.

Another idiotic statement. The "Reformation Bible scholarship" didn't improve the "historic text".

Joseph Smith had his magic glasses and they had the secret decoder ring. 

 

[Steven Avery]

The historic Greek text had corruptions that were removed by utilizing the Latin lines, the ECW and faith-consistent textual analysis.

 

[FSSL]

Begging the question..

What, exactly, did that textual analysis involve that would give the Latin text priority over existing Greek mss?

 

[FSSL]

Yep. Nada.

If you are going to make stuff up, you really ought to retract it or make up some more stuff.

What we do know is this...

The Latin was used by Erasmus to fill in some gaps (eg. last chapter of Rev) and it led to some real problems that found their way into the KJV.

There was no "faithful, consistent textual analysis." There was an overbearing ecclesiastical authority over the translators who used a text that suffered missing pieces filled in by the Latin. The so-called "faithful, consistent textual analysis" was a mixture of lacking mss and subjection to the church hierarchy.

 

[bgwilkinson]

Yep. Nada.

If you are going to make stuff up, you really ought to retract it or make up some more stuff.

What we do know is this...

The Latin was used by Erasmus to fill in some gaps (eg. last chapter of Rev) and it led to some real problems that found their way into the KJV.

There was no "faithful, consistent textual analysis." There was an overbearing ecclesiastical authority over the translators who used a text that suffered missing pieces filled in by the Latin. The so-called "faithful, consistent textual analysis" was a mixture of lacking mss and subjection to the church hierarchy.

That certainly is what recorded history reveals to us, however, if we could somehow connect with the world of made-up, wishful-thinking and fantastic imaginations, we could become more enlightened and live in that world of the alternate reality.

Then just maybe it would all make sense.

It would be so easy then to just make up stuff and truth is what ever you desire it to be.

No need for truth or historical facts backed up by hard evidence in the alternate reality.

 

[logos1560]

The historic Greek text had corruptions that were removed by utilizing the Latin lines, the ECW and faith-consistent textual analysis.

How were Latin translation manuscripts with many imperfections and errors a greater authority than the preserved Greek NT manuscripts?  Are you directly claiming that some of the actual exact, specific words that proceeded from the mouth of God by inspiration to the prophets and apostles were not preserved?

You have presented and identified no actual "faith-consistent, sound, just" textual measures that were actually used by Erasmus, Stephanus, and Beza.  You have not demonstrated that the advocating of unscriptural, inconsistent unjust divers textual measures would be consistent with sound biblical faith.

 

[Steven Avery]

How were Latin translation manuscripts with many imperfections and errors a greater authority than the preserved Greek NT manuscripts? 

Your own fav Geneva has many such important corrections of the Greek (especially simple omissions) by the Latin historical lines. 

So it looks like you are now attacking the Geneva Bible? What Bible do you defend as God's pure word?  If any.

Steven Avery