Restored Fallen Pastors

abcaines said:
Those are the actions of an unrepentant heart.
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Absolutely. I am the title of this thread. I was a pastor. I fell. God restored me, after years of pew sitting, to ministry, but no pastoral ministry. A truly repentant man takes his lumps, is willing to live with whatever loss comes, and sits quietly until God's people, fully aware of his sin and current state, ask him to serve in any capacity whatsoever.
 
Bob Jones VI said:
Absolutely. I am the title of this thread. I was a pastor. I fell. God restored me, after years of pew sitting, to ministry, but no pastoral ministry. A truly repentant man takes his lumps, is willing to live with whatever loss comes, and sits quietly until God's people, fully aware of his sin and current state, ask him to serve in any capacity whatsoever.
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You say you sexually assaulted a woman?
 
DrHuk&Duck said:
I’m pretty sure he’s indicating an affair. Where in the world did you get sexual assault from his post?
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That's the accusation against Hunt, and that's what Hunt is fighting...what he says is the false accusation. VI seemed to be saying Hunt should respond the way he responded.
 
The accusation, that Hunt made an inappropriate sexual advance against the wife of a pastor friend, was found by investigators from Guideposts Solutions, and by the president of the Southern Baptist Convention, to be credible (see post 106, page 6 in this thread). However, Hunt is insisting that the encounter was "consensual."

In other words, Hunt is accusing this woman of attempted adultery. If he is lying about this, as he lied about other events in this encounter, then he has falsely accused and slandered the victim, thus victimizing her twice. I wonder how this is any different from what Mrs. Potiphar did to Joseph.
 
The words used in the reporting are "assault," "abuse," and "molestation," not "advance." And I read the report. There was no indication of any kind of force on his part, nor protest on hers.

Hunt may be a dirty, rotten scoundrel, but that doesn't give a green light to bear false witness.
 
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Ekklesian said:
You say you sexually assaulted a woman?
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Where did I say that. Read, idiot. I said the TITLE OF THIS THREAD, which is "Fallen pastors." Read before you post. I am a "Fallen pastor." I have never "assualted" a woman in my life. I have never struck or otherwise violently touched a woman. I had a moral failure that caused me to resign as pastor almost 20 years ago.
 
Bob Jones VI said:
Where did I say that. Read, idiot. I said the TITLE OF THIS THREAD, which is "Fallen pastors." Read before you post. I am a "Fallen pastor." I have never "assualted" a woman in my life. I have never struck or otherwise violently touched a woman. I had a moral failure that caused me to resign as pastor almost 20 years ago.
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You have character and truth that many do not have. I have great respect for you. Thank you for sharing.
 
Bob Jones VI said:
Where did I say that. Read, idiot. I said the TITLE OF THIS THREAD, which is "Fallen pastors." Read before you post. I am a "Fallen pastor." I have never "assualted" a woman in my life. I have never struck or otherwise violently touched a woman. I had a moral failure that caused me to resign as pastor almost 20 years ago.
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*sigh*

That's my point. But let's say the woman in your case, to mitigate her part in the sin, accused you of eventually overcoming her will with your advances, and 'paralyzing her with shock' so she couldn't protest or resist in any way, essentially forcing yourself upon her...

...and then some politically motivated, prejudiced investigative company published a report declaring the accusation 'credible,' calling you a rapist.

What should be one's response to that?

Your statement was in response to a comment on Hunt, and you were contrasting your responses. I was just saying you aren't facing the same accusations. Context, brother. It doesn't look like I'm the one needing reading lessons.
 
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Ekk - having a consensual affair isn’t sexual assault. Are you being serious or just trying to act like a Richard with this guy. C’mon bro, this is taking things too far.
 
Ekklesian said:
That's my point. But let's say the woman in your case, to mitigate her part in the sin, accused you of eventually overcoming her will with your advances, and 'paralyzing her with shock' so she couldn't protest or resist in any way, essentially forcing yourself upon her...
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While we're at it, let's say that afterward, she said "Be seeing you," gave that little salute from The Prisoner, then turned into an incorporeal ball of energy and phased through the ceiling, never to be seen again and leaving no physical trace.

I mean, if you're going to invent a fairy tale about BJIV to get mad about, at least make it an appropriately magical one.
 
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