Pensacola Going Worldly?

Murphy said:
I'm beginning to think we should just send our kids to state institutions, let them pick professions where they can provide for their children, and be done with it all.
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socialism is being taught in state universities sadly.
 
Murphy said:
I don't have any answers or solutions about colleges or churches or religion anymore. I wanted to join the forum because I am lonely, been out of church for close to two years and feeling even more isolated with this Covid19 thing.
I thought I wanted to connect with former HACers, but I've already shared enough about myself that people I once loved in this circle or love now can be hurt. I've been hurt, whether it matters to God or the people who hurt me or their children doesn't matter to me. It doesn't give me a license to hurt others in my anger. It would make me no better than these people.
Sherryh, if I reveal much about myself, IFB circles are small enough; you could probably figure out my home church and some of the churches I attended. My version goes against these men's reputations or their children's eulogies of the men they loved. These men are everything to their children and whoever just has to believe in them.
I walked away from people because their secrets were more important than me. That church has done all it can to rewrite it's history of covering incest, rape, and attempted rape. They have to rewrite it to get a pastor in there. I am in the shadows of that church. It angers me greatly to see the lying and cover ups continue.
I went to HAC because of a sexual advance and wanted to avoid a possible rape. I found safety in the dorms at HAC amidst all their crazy drama and disfunction, too. I wanted to believe in something and tried to until their kids came out about it.
It matters what happened to Joy Evan's Ryder whether her story is being told perfectly to everyone's liking or not. Somewhere between our emotionally charged hurtful stories and these men's stories and their eulogized memories lies the truth. I am trying to hold on to a God I once believed in, hoping He's not like any of these men, and hoping He's not Someone that was made up as a crutch to hold on to like Obama supposedly said about believers.
If God is real, and I sincerely want to believe He is, for my sake, because He really doesn't need me, does He care about what is happening to women, children, our country, our citizens, this world, or has He finally said enough is enough?
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Murphy, Thank you please read Billy Graham book on " Angels and heaven" that book really helped me. There is a chapter on justice and God will get justice on wrong doing. Many blessings
PS if you're on facebook come visit me I would love to have you as a friend.
 
Murphy, many of us here on the forum have experienced the same kind of injustice in IFB (and non-IFB) churches as you have. We believe you, we care about you, and God cares about you too.
 
Many of us have been through the same spiritual ordeal as Murphy. The last time I had to leave an IFB church was devastating for me - I was falsely accused of many things and was not allowed to defend myself or answer the charges. I found a sympathetic non-IFB "baptistic" church to attend, and it was 4 1/2 years before I trusted them enough to officially join the church - they were understanding about it and patiently waited for me to be ready. I can fully understand why some are ready to give it all up after a bad experience at an IFB church, and would not sit in judgment on them, but my personal experience has been that the love of God, and God's people, are still available to us even after being thrown under the bus by the IFB extremists.
 
tmjbog said:
When I started at my current IFB about 8 years ago I made it clear I was uncommitted and unpastorable from the beginning. First meeting with the pastor I told the pastor my wife wears pants and we don't believe in eternal security. On top of that told him I had a preference for KJV (I did at the time) but that I'm not KJVO. So expectations were set from the beginning. On the downside some of the assistant pastors did try to get me resaved along the way.
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Murphy said:
I deleted out most of all my posts. I'd appreciate it if the administrators of the site or those who have posted on my comments would delete my posts as well. Sorry I vented and griped about it all. I appreciated those who were compassionate, encouraging, and very patient. Thank you, SherryH for your offer of friendship. I wish you all the very best. I will keep my registration long enough to see if my posts can be deleted in their entirety. Please don't post on this comment so that this post can be deleted as well. Best wishes to you and yours.
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You don't need to be afraid of some of the members. One of them has more than a "tmj" problem.

What you said was true and they don't like when you complain about their "golden calf".

You don't need to be disillusioned with Jesus Christ. He is so much BETTER than they are. They just don't want you know it.

Jesus has never made a mistake. Never will make a mistake.... and he will never leave you. "tmj" believes God abandons His own.... yet he refuses to abandon the one's he loves down at his little few. That is how they operate. They want you to believe they are better than God.

They're not and please don't blame God for their sinfulness.
 
Murphy...

I'm not quoting you so as not to leave your comments if you wish not to remain. You were not offended by my comments were you? I was talking about my actual experience. Not trying to mock or make light of your situation in any way. I just noticed that your last post before desiring to leave was just a quote of my post.
 
Sherryh said:
Who cares what David cloud believes LOL
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Personally, I think that David Cloud is a self-aggrandizing hack who got pissed off because Dr. Robertson didn't swallow his Kool-Aid and did what he believed was right instead of what CLOUD thought was right. He's been proven to be an obnoxious jackass of a man by many, and I know when I had interactions with him on the net and by email, he was as hateful as could be. No grace is in this man.
 
I know far too many people who graduated from PCC, and I used to watch the Campus Church all the time. It isn't something I will believe until I've seen it personally. All of the people I know from that institution are Godly, soul-winning people! And even if they did allow other translations, it shouldn't make a difference.
 
Bob Jones V said:
Schettler moved to West Coast Baptist College, didn't he? He was the Campus church pastor for many years.
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I have no idea where he went. But, it's possible that he did. My ex-BIL used to be on staff at WCBC...but only for a short time. He graduated from Trinity in Jacksonville, FL, and my sister got associates from there back in the 1990s.
 
AverageJoe said:
I have no idea where he went. But, it's possible that he did. My ex-BIL used to be on staff at WCBC...but only for a short time. He graduated from Trinity in Jacksonville, FL, and my sister got associates from there back in the 1990s.
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Jim Schettler is still at WCBC. I didn't know they were in the high desert... Landscatter, er I mean Lancaster. At least when I lived near there, there were wide open spaces...
 
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