Pat Robertson says you should be able to legally roll your doobies.

[jimmudcatgrant]

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Focus on the Family objects.  We were told in public school that pot was a gateway drug.  It was for some, but not necessarily so.  I am not sure if I agree with the legalization of pot, but I will say that smoking pot isn't any worse than downing a pint of black jack.  I think the deficit is so bad that the government will eventually legalize pot, and maybe other illegal substances.

 

[Izdaari]

Pat has definite "loose cannon" tendencies, but he's right on this one.  8)

 

[standingtall]

 

[The Real Bob]

Solid, heavy and right on!

 

[Ransom]

That explains a lot of everything else Pat Robertson says.

 

[Castor Muscular]

Groovy.  And right on.

 

[Aviator]

...smoking pot isn't any worse than downing a pint of black jack.

Neither is sniffing glue, injecting heroin, snorting cocaine, smoking crack, or swallowing uppers/downers.

 

[Izdaari]

...smoking pot isn't any worse than downing a pint of black jack.

Neither is sniffing glue, injecting heroin, snorting cocaine, smoking crack, or swallowing uppers/downers.

Well, a pint of whiskey is rather a lot, perhaps enough to cause alcohol poisoning in a small person. But those other things are generally more harmful than drinking or smoking pot.

And the primary effect of making pot illegal is not in reducing its use, but as a price support program for organized crime.

 

[Aviator]

Well, a pint of whiskey is rather a lot, perhaps enough to cause alcohol poisoning in a small person. But those other things are generally more harmful than drinking or smoking pot.

And the primary effect of making pot illegal is not in reducing its use, but as a price support program for organized crime.

He gave no "amount" in his pot reference.  Truthfully, none of those things would be very harmful in small enough amounts.  But no one really uses any of those things, other than alcohol, in small enough amounts, do they?

 

[Izdaari]

Well, a pint of whiskey is rather a lot, perhaps enough to cause alcohol poisoning in a small person. But those other things are generally more harmful than drinking or smoking pot.

And the primary effect of making pot illegal is not in reducing its use, but as a price support program for organized crime.

He gave no "amount" in his pot reference.  Truthfully, none of those things would be very harmful in small enough amounts.  But no one really uses any of those things, other than alcohol, in small enough amounts, do they?

I'm not quite sure what your point is, except perhaps that we should legalize them all? If so, I agree. The War or Drugs does function as a price support program for organized crime with all of them... except perhaps for glue. I'm not aware of any black market for that, probably because it's still easily enough available legally.

 

[jimmudcatgrant]

...smoking pot isn't any worse than downing a pint of black jack.

Neither is sniffing glue, injecting heroin, snorting cocaine, smoking crack, or swallowing uppers/downers.

I got saved out of the drug culture, so I beg to differ with you on sniffing glue and shooting heroin.  I personally knew some people who were living proof of the damage they can do.  I say knew as they are no longer with us.  As far as the uppers and downers, it depends on how many you take and if you consume alcohol.  Ludes, for instance, mixed with alcohol, can be a lethal combination.  Crack was after my days of partying, but I hear that it is highly addictive.  I don't see how that is no worse than pot or alcohol.  But to each their own.

 

[ALAYMAN]

I lean somewhat libertarian-ish, and think that government intrusion into our lives is a very dangerous trend in the ever socialistic political atmosphere we live in, but I ain't for making pot and/or other narcotics easier to get access to.  I am familiar enough with the drug culture to know the damage and lethargy caused by the lifestyle.  We don't need to increase the impetus in our society for people to escape reality, but to engage it and become productive.

 

[Aviator]

...smoking pot isn't any worse than downing a pint of black jack.

Neither is sniffing glue, injecting heroin, snorting cocaine, smoking crack, or swallowing uppers/downers.

I got saved out of the drug culture, so I beg to differ with you on sniffing glue and shooting heroin.  I personally knew some people who were living proof of the damage they can do.  I say knew as they are no longer with us.  As far as the uppers and downers, it depends on how many you take and if you consume alcohol.  Ludes, for instance, mixed with alcohol, can be a lethal combination.  Crack was after my days of partying, but I hear that it is highly addictive.  I don't see how that is no worse than pot or alcohol.  But to each their own.

None of the substances mentioned will harm you if taken in small enough amounts.  My point is that the legalization of any drug which alters the mind is patently foolish because people tend to over-indulge and destroy others in the process.

 

[rsc2a]

None of the substances mentioned will harm you if taken in small enough amounts.  My point is that the legalization of any drug which alters the mind is patently foolish because people tend to over-indulge and destroy others in the process.

Want to sign my petition criminalizing groceries? I figure we should probably have punitive fines for restaurants to drive the message home.

 

[The Real Bob]

None of the substances mentioned will harm you if taken in small enough amounts.  My point is that the legalization of any drug which alters the mind is patently foolish because people tend to over-indulge and destroy others in the process.

None of that stuff ever hurt me any.

 

[Aviator]

Want to sign my petition criminalizing groceries? I figure we should probably have punitive fines for restaurants to drive the message home.

Absolutely!  Any rational person knows that it's sensible to equate groceries with drugs.

 

[Izdaari]

Want to sign my petition criminalizing groceries? I figure we should probably have punitive fines for restaurants to drive the message home.

Absolutely!  Any rational person knows that it's sensible to equate groceries with drugs.

Both are products that an individual may consume that may harm that individual, but won't directly harm anyone else, that the government may disapprove of. In that respect, they're very similar. I'm addicted to hot dogs, though I know they're not good for me. Even my preferred kosher beef dogs contain unhealthy levels of saturated fat, salt, nitrates and nitrites. Ditto for bacon, all the same health risks. Do you think they should they be outlawed? Michele Obama might think so.

 

[Aviator]

Both are products that an individual may consume that may harm that individual, but won't directly harm anyone else, that the government may disapprove of. In that respect, they're very similar. I'm addicted to hot dogs, though I know they're not good for me. Even my preferred kosher beef dogs contain unhealthy levels of saturated fat, salt, nitrates and nitrites. Ditto for bacon, all the same health risks. Do you think they should they be outlawed? Michele Obama might think so.

Someone in an altered state of mind doesn't present any more risk to society than someone who eats too many hot dogs?

Are you serious???

 

[Izdaari]

Both are products that an individual may consume that may harm that individual, but won't directly harm anyone else, that the government may disapprove of. In that respect, they're very similar. I'm addicted to hot dogs, though I know they're not good for me. Even my preferred kosher beef dogs contain unhealthy levels of saturated fat, salt, nitrates and nitrites. Ditto for bacon, all the same health risks. Do you think they should they be outlawed? Michele Obama might think so.

Someone in an altered state of mind doesn't present any more risk to society than someone who eats too many hot dogs?

Are you serious???

Someone who's high on pot doesn't. Unless they're driving... same for drunks of course.

Meth addicts get paranoid and schizzy after a while, and are a serious risk for going postal. That's the drug with the best reason for making it illegal.

Most other addicts are dangerous only if they can't get their stuff, and that's usually because the prices are ridiculously high due to it being illegal, so they resort to illegal means (burglary, armed robbery, etc.) in order to pay for it. Making it illegal is what causes the risk to society.

So yeah, I'm dead serious.

 

[Aviator]

Someone who's high on pot doesn't. Unless they're driving... same for drunks of course.

So, the only activity you can think up which if engaged in by a drunk or stoned individual would put others at risk is