Marty Braemer...a combination of gall and hypocrisy....

Tarheel Baptist said:
You're right that his blog probably isn't read by all that many people...Marty has few fans.
I didn't post this thread in a vacuum, Kevin is/was aware I was going to do so.
Marty needs to be exposed for the lying, self serving charlatan he is....I don't think the blog hurts anyone but Marty at this point.

But, I'm willing to delete my quote of the quote of the blog post...and the link to the blog IF Kevin wants......
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I absolutely agree Marty needs to be exposed for the bastard he is. He is obviously lying about Kevin, those of us who know Kevin know that. I just don't think the liar's blog needs to be copied and pasted all over the place---where it become difficult to reign in and remove. It's a good man's reputation being drug through the mud. Leave it in the dingy blog where it belong. IMO.

No offense, TB. =)
 
I wish Kevin and his family the best. Maybe fords Bush deserve Marty! They don't sound like very intelligent people if they are still taking advice from a lying, adulterous "man".
 
Please do not put any link to H McB or use his name here.  He will show up and cause undue stress on someone who does not need it.
 
He very obviously has some sort of mental illness, and in all likelihood isn't even saved. I feel bad for the people he has dragged into his web of lies and deceit, but anyone at Ford's Bush who would even consider having communication with this wolf deserves what they get. Sounds to me like the church deserves him.

Tarheel Baptist said:
With lots of crap to fill the empty space....

http://martybraemer.wordpress.com/

He blogs about Kevin Keever and the church HE destroyed with his lies and adultery, now gloats over the demise. He has also evidently been in contact with some of the members of Fords Bush. As I told Kevin, if those loons still listen to Marty, they deserve him....and worse, if there is anything worse.

This is the second time Marty blogged about the situation, but took down the first post, after some pressure, I think.

This just goes to show that Marty is a narcissistic, arrogant, ignorant caricature of what's wrong with so called IFBX-dumb.
Marty fails to mention that Kevin, through no fault of his own, became captain of the Titantic because Marty drove it into the iceberg.

Marty, you are a real piece of work....I feel sorry for your wife, kids and the church you now help to lead.....because, spiritually you couldn't lead a sick goat to water. IMHO, of course!
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Maybe we could network here and help Kevin and his family as they seek Gods will about their next move. Perhaps you know of a church that has an opening for an assistant or youth pastor....contact Kevin or you could PM me.

Above all, pray for them....
 
TB if I hear of any church openings I will let you know, regardless I pray God will give him the plum of a job.
 
Torrent v.3 said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
raised2walk said:
I think, for the sake of the offended party, whoever posted Marty's "blog post" needs to remove it from this board if the offended party (Kevin) is not here to defend himself. No need to be spreading Marty's trash around the interwebz.
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You're right that his blog probably isn't read by all that many people...Marty has few fans.
I didn't post this thread in a vacuum, Kevin is/was aware I was going to do so.
Marty needs to be exposed for the lying, self serving charlatan he is....I don't think the blog hurts anyone but Marty at this point.

But, I'm willing to delete my quote of the quote of the blog post...and the link to the blog IF Kevin wants......
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If Kevin desires it, I will delete it.

However, at this point, I doubt that Kevin is worried about what is said on the internet.  He is more concerned with how to take care of his family and protect them from the wolf.
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Your choice. All I'm saying is copying and pasting slander from the blog of a jackass is unprofitable and stupid. It also doesn't BENEFIT Kevin in any way whatsoever.

Of course he should be worried about what is said about him on the Internet. It would be foolish not to be, this day and age. I know someone who posted how a man was a lying, cheating adulterer in a few conspicuous places and now when a place of employment or pastor sits down and googles that man's name, it tops all the search engines. Only an idiot wouldn't be worried. . . and Kevin is no idiot.
 
Kevin is such a stand-up guy. His honesty and vulnerablty on the FFF was amazing really. If he felt he had done wrong he would admit it publicly.  God will take care of he and his family but networking is a good idea.

And R2W was right about Marty..."bastard".
 
Just John said:
And R2W was right about Marty..."bastard".
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Why bring his mother into this. Don't you think she is embarrassed enough already?  8)
 
4everfsu said:
TB if I hear of any church openings I will let you know, regardless I pray God will give him the plum of a job.
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Well, there may be a job opening at my church for Senior Pastor!
 
raised2walk said:
Torrent v.3 said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
raised2walk said:
I think, for the sake of the offended party, whoever posted Marty's "blog post" needs to remove it from this board if the offended party (Kevin) is not here to defend himself. No need to be spreading Marty's trash around the interwebz.
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You're right that his blog probably isn't read by all that many people...Marty has few fans.
I didn't post this thread in a vacuum, Kevin is/was aware I was going to do so.
Marty needs to be exposed for the lying, self serving charlatan he is....I don't think the blog hurts anyone but Marty at this point.

But, I'm willing to delete my quote of the quote of the blog post...and the link to the blog IF Kevin wants......
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If Kevin desires it, I will delete it.

However, at this point, I doubt that Kevin is worried about what is said on the internet.  He is more concerned with how to take care of his family and protect them from the wolf.
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Your choice. All I'm saying is copying and pasting slander from the blog of a jackass is unprofitable and stupid. It also doesn't BENEFIT Kevin in any way whatsoever.

Of course he should be worried about what is said about him on the Internet. It would be foolish not to be, this day and age. I know someone who posted how a man was a lying, cheating adulterer in a few conspicuous places and now when a place of employment or pastor sits down and googles that man's name, it tops all the search engines. Only an idiot wouldn't be worried. . . and Kevin is no idiot.
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For example...Google Marty Braemer and you find:
Marty Braemer affair
Marty Braemer adultery
Marty Braemer and the librarian's name


Marty never bought into the old adage about people in glass houses not throwing stones, I guess.  :(
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
For example...Google Marty Braemer and you find:
Marty Braemer affair
Marty Braemer adultery
Marty Braemer and the librarian's name


Marty never bought into the old adage about people in glass houses not throwing stones, I guess.  :(
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The most unfortunate of all truths is the way this whole scenario with Marty drags God's name through the mud.
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
For example...Google Marty Braemer and you find:
Marty Braemer affair
Marty Braemer adultery
Marty Braemer and the librarian's name
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How about "Marty Braemer a modern day Elmer Gantry without any of the charisma"?
 
Just John said:
Kevin is such a stand-up guy. His honesty and vulnerablty on the FFF was amazing really. If he felt he had done wrong he would admit it publicly.  God will take care of he and his family but networking is a good idea.

And R2W was right about Marty..."bastard".
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I removed the blog post. You are right about kevin.
 
Kevin and his wife are cream. 

It rises, and so are they. 

Things seem to be going pretty well right now for them, and circumstances seem to be bettering (if that's a word), but please keep praying. 
 
I have not talked to Kevin in quite some time.  Our paths just don't cross that much.  He did indeed inherit a horrible mess!  No real need to go over all that again.  Whatever any of you have said about braemer you are right,  unless you said something nice.  That being said, I feel warranted in saying something about the husband of the woman who committed adultery.  He was one of braemer's yes men.  Hand  picked.  Why?  I'll tell you.  He has two children who are @ 6 months apart in age.  His first wife was 3 months pregnant when he got his current wife pregnant!  And yes, she knew he was married!  Apparently that had nothing to do with her/his lust!  Soooooo, his first wife and his son by that marriage do not go to church.  And they hate God.  And, knowing all of that, Marty picked him to be a Deacon in the church.
 
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