Looks like Ironman is back as El Cid.

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El Cid said:
If modern day Bible believing churches would preach the gospel with the power of the Holy Ghost we could turn this country around.  Democrats are not the problem, they are the result of watered down churches.

Interesting. El Cid said this at 11:35 am on 2/25.


Ironman said this at 11:30am on 2/25

True, America has gone down hill with the liberals and letting the world into the churches.

Watered down churches. sad.

http://www.fundamentalforums.com/fighting-forum/105137-more-fox-news-lies.html#post2089248

Coincidence?

Someone said that Ironman might be El Cid.  Could be, do you think?
 
Winston said:
El Cid said:
If modern day Bible believing churches would preach the gospel with the power of the Holy Ghost we could turn this country around.  Democrats are not the problem, they are the result of watered down churches.

Interesting. El Cid said this at 11:35 am on 2/25.


Ironman said this at 11:30am on 2/25

True, America has gone down hill with the liberals and letting the world into the churches.

Watered down churches. sad.

http://www.fundamentalforums.com/fighting-forum/105137-more-fox-news-lies.html#post2089248

Coincidence?

Someone said that Ironman might be El Cid.  Could be, do you think?

It is true there are watered down churches in America, watered down chuches and false churches such as Mormons, JWs, etc.  Not to mention all the Pentecostal churches preaching a false gospel. 
 
El Cid said:
It is true there are watered down churches in America, watered down chuches and false churches such as Mormons, JWs, etc.  Not to mention all the Pentecostal churches preaching a false gospel.

So what's this about all the Pentecostal churches preaching a false gospel?

Izzy, the AoG member, wants to know.
 
Hey Cid, I also have been accused of being someone else. It'll pass soon enough.
 
Ironman thinks he is El Cid? No, there is only one El Cid. 

Maybe I will go to that forum and straighten him out.  LOL




 
Izdaari said:
El Cid said:
It is true there are watered down churches in America, watered down chuches and false churches such as Mormons, JWs, etc.  Not to mention all the Pentecostal churches preaching a false gospel.

So what's this about all the Pentecostal churches preaching a false gospel?

Izzy, the AoG member, wants to know.

Yea, the "Jesus died for your sins so if you want to be saved come forward at the invitation"  and then they are told they need to be Baptized, attend church, be good, quit sinning, etc. as part of their salvation.  That is a false salvation message.  Jesus + nothing equals salvation, he is the one and only and sufficient savior. 

Galatians chapter 3 for more information
 
El Cid said:
Izdaari said:
El Cid said:
It is true there are watered down churches in America, watered down chuches and false churches such as Mormons, JWs, etc.  Not to mention all the Pentecostal churches preaching a false gospel.

So what's this about all the Pentecostal churches preaching a false gospel?

Izzy, the AoG member, wants to know.

Yea, the "Jesus died for your sins so if you want to be saved come forward at the invitation"  and then they are told they need to be Baptized, attend church, be good, quit sinning, etc. as part of their salvation.  That is a false salvation message.  Jesus + nothing equals salvation, he is the one and only and sufficient savior. 

Galatians chapter 3 for more information

Sounds like what a lot of Baptist churches teach....
 
El Cid said:
Izdaari said:
El Cid said:
It is true there are watered down churches in America, watered down chuches and false churches such as Mormons, JWs, etc.  Not to mention all the Pentecostal churches preaching a false gospel.

So what's this about all the Pentecostal churches preaching a false gospel?

Izzy, the AoG member, wants to know.

Yea, the "Jesus died for your sins so if you want to be saved come forward at the invitation"  and then they are told they need to be Baptized, attend church, be good, quit sinning, etc. as part of their salvation.  That is a false salvation message.  Jesus + nothing equals salvation, he is the one and only and sufficient savior. 

Galatians chapter 3 for more information

I think you've just described a lot of IFB churches, but it doesn't sound like AoG at all. Nor does it sound like Open Bible or Foursquare.  ::)

be Baptized
attend church
be good
quit sinning

Yeah, our church would like you to do all that, but I never heard that it had anything to do with salvation, not from our pulpit

Jesus + nothing equals salvation, he is the one and only and sufficient savior.

I totally agree.  8) 

Galatians 3 is my favorite chapter of the Bible. Or John 1 is, hard to decide.
 
Izdaari said:
El Cid said:
Izdaari said:
El Cid said:
It is true there are watered down churches in America, watered down chuches and false churches such as Mormons, JWs, etc.  Not to mention all the Pentecostal churches preaching a false gospel.

So what's this about all the Pentecostal churches preaching a false gospel?

Izzy, the AoG member, wants to know.

Yea, the "Jesus died for your sins so if you want to be saved come forward at the invitation"  and then they are told they need to be Baptized, attend church, be good, quit sinning, etc. as part of their salvation.  That is a false salvation message.  Jesus + nothing equals salvation, he is the one and only and sufficient savior. 

Galatians chapter 3 for more information

I think you've just described a lot of IFB churches, but it doesn't sound like my AoG church at all.  ::)

Galatians 3 is my favorite chapter of the Bible. Or John 1 is, hard to decide.

I can't speak for your church but having grown up in Church of God atmosphere and having visited several Pentecostal churches and having had many friends and associates who are Pentecostal, I can tell you that most of them (99%) teach a Jesus + salvation or Grace + works salvation.  So what are they trusting in?  Jesus or their works?

Baptist Churches?  Some have too many rules and expect you to be just like them but our church teaches and preaches salvation by Grace and live by faith.  We also believe in separation from the world and Hell Fire Brimstone preaching.

 
El Cid said:
I can't speak for your church but having grown up in Church of God atmosphere and having visited several Pentecostal churches and having had many friends and associates who are Pentecostal, I can tell you that most of them (99%) teach a Jesus + salvation or Grace + works salvation.  So what are they trusting in?  Jesus or their works?

Baptist Churches?  Some have too many rules and expect you to be just like them but our church teaches and preaches salvation by Grace and live by faith.  We also believe in separation from the world and Hell Fire Brimstone preaching.

Can you give Biblically-based definitions for the following words?

Salvation
Grace
Faith
Separation
World
 
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I read some of Ironman's ramblings on the other forum.  Please do not associate me with that nutcase.  He is seems to be self centered, arrogant and self righteous.  People who want to serve the Lord try to put the emphasis on Christ and try to lift up their brothers and sisters in Christ.  I am not perfect but I do want to serve Christ and be a blessing to others. 
 
El Cid said:
I read some of Ironman's ramblings on the other forum.  Please do not associate me with that nutcase.  He is seems to be self centered, arrogant and self righteous.  People who want to serve the Lord try to put the emphasis on Christ and try to lift up their brothers and sisters in Christ.  I am not perfect but I do want to serve Christ and be a blessing to others.
Whatever you say, IronCid.
 
El Cid said:
I read some of Ironman's ramblings on the other forum.  Please do not associate me with that nutcase.  He is seems to be self centered, arrogant and self righteous. 

Well, you pretty much nailed him with that description, although the words "troll", "fake" and "liar" should be in there.  It remains to be seen if you end up fitting the same description.  If you're a Rustmaid sock, you'll eventually fall back into those ways.  If not, well, then I'm glad he/she isn't here anymore. 
 
Castor Muscular said:
El Cid said:
I read some of Ironman's ramblings on the other forum.  Please do not associate me with that nutcase.  He is seems to be self centered, arrogant and self righteous. 

Well, you pretty much nailed him with that description, although the words "troll", "fake" and "liar" should be in there.  It remains to be seen if you end up fitting the same description.  If you're a Rustmaid sock, you'll eventually fall back into those ways.  If not, well, then I'm glad he/she isn't here anymore.

I have not studied him enough to make those observations.  It has been my experience though, with attention hogs that the more you talk about them, the more they stay around. 

"Great people talk about ideas,
Average people talk about things,
Little people talk about other people"
 
El Cid said:
Castor Muscular said:
El Cid said:
I read some of Ironman's ramblings on the other forum.  Please do not associate me with that nutcase.  He is seems to be self centered, arrogant and self righteous. 

Well, you pretty much nailed him with that description, although the words "troll", "fake" and "liar" should be in there.  It remains to be seen if you end up fitting the same description.  If you're a Rustmaid sock, you'll eventually fall back into those ways.  If not, well, then I'm glad he/she isn't here anymore.

I have not studied him enough to make those observations.  It has been my experience though, with attention hogs that the more you talk about them, the more they stay around. 

"Great people talk about ideas,
Average people talk about things,
Little people talk about other people"

Yeah, not many people study themselves.
 
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