Ladies Conference

brainisengaged said:
Yes! Raider, your wife is insightful. They give these little ultimatums that come across like guilt trips. Once we moved here, I went to my first few Spectaculars, expecting something...well, spectacular. I would learn all the things I "should" be doing in order to have a great marriage. I would try them. My husband would not respond or would not notice or would not like what I was doing. I would explain in frustration that I was told to do these things. He would gently and wisely explain, "They are not married to me. You are. I don't need those things, I need you." Or something equally wonderfully freeing if not those exact words.

To be fair, I only checked in on the conference at a few points. Of course there was good teaching. The Vogel girls taught on how to open up your closet and make cute outfits out of clothes you already own. Mrs. Mutchler taught on how ladies ought to be encouraging to others.  You know, that kind of stuff that is really more meaty than the Myron & Cactus skits and Belinda ditties!

p.s. I remember a lady teaching once that in order to be a good wife, you have to be reliable. She made certain she was sitting in the same chair every time her husband came home from being away, so he would always find her in the exact same place whenever he came home. I used to listen to things like that and literally think, "Wow, this is a woman who really knows the innermost secrets to the Christian life!" Then I mentioned it to my husband, who gave me a quizzical look, and said something like, "I think I will know where to find you when I get home if I just look around a little and find what you are doing." :) To be fair, since a lot of men are kind of weird around here...(sorry guys but it is true), a lot of women have to adapt to their weirdness and then they pass it off as Christian principled methods of relationship building. Or something like that...Like the way they teach us gals to be cheerleaders for our husbands. My husband (I am telling on him a lot here) actually scorns a man who is so needy he needs a cheerleader. I am not kidding, at the men's softball leagues, there are some who have their wives and daughters cheering them on and it is encouraged that the good wife will come and cheer her husband on. My husband expressly told me to spend my Saturday doing whatever I wanted or needed to do and he is secure enough in his ability / manhood to not need to be cheered on. (Which reminds me, Belinda also led the ladies at the conference in cheering for their churches...oy!)

Okay, the Vogel girls???  They're about 25 years my junior and most of the other ladies in there too telling these older women what to do???  OMG!  This is why I don't go to these conferences.  I went once and once was enough.  I loved to hear Mrs. Evans and Mrs. Hyles, women much older and much wiser than me, but when it came to others much younger than me telling me how to have a wonderful marriage and how to treat my man, that was too much for me.  UGH!  It's like listening to the Duggers!!
 
brainisengaged said:
Yes! Raider, your wife is insightful. They give these little ultimatums that come across like guilt trips. Once we moved here, I went to my first few Spectaculars, expecting something...well, spectacular. I would learn all the things I "should" be doing in order to have a great marriage. I would try them. My husband would not respond or would not notice or would not like what I was doing. I would explain in frustration that I was told to do these things. He would gently and wisely explain, "They are not married to me. You are. I don't need those things, I need you." Or something equally wonderfully freeing if not those exact words.

To be fair, I only checked in on the conference at a few points. Of course there was good teaching. The Vogel girls taught on how to open up your closet and make cute outfits out of clothes you already own. Mrs. Mutchler taught on how ladies ought to be encouraging to others.  You know, that kind of stuff that is really more meaty than the Myron & Cactus skits and Belinda ditties!

p.s. I remember a lady teaching once that in order to be a good wife, you have to be reliable. She made certain she was sitting in the same chair every time her husband came home from being away, so he would always find her in the exact same place whenever he came home. I used to listen to things like that and literally think, "Wow, this is a woman who really knows the innermost secrets to the Christian life!" Then I mentioned it to my husband, who gave me a quizzical look, and said something like, "I think I will know where to find you when I get home if I just look around a little and find what you are doing." :) To be fair, since a lot of men are kind of weird around here...(sorry guys but it is true), a lot of women have to adapt to their weirdness and then they pass it off as Christian principled methods of relationship building. Or something like that...Like the way they teach us gals to be cheerleaders for our husbands. My husband (I am telling on him a lot here) actually scorns a man who is so needy he needs a cheerleader. I am not kidding, at the men's softball leagues, there are some who have their wives and daughters cheering them on and it is encouraged that the good wife will come and cheer her husband on. My husband expressly told me to spend my Saturday doing whatever I wanted or needed to do and he is secure enough in his ability / manhood to not need to be cheered on. (Which reminds me, Belinda also led the ladies at the conference in cheering for their churches...oy!)

You are like listening to my wife!  LOL!
 
I think I have said this on this forum (or the other one) before, but the absolutely worst "disagreement and discussion" my husband and I have ever had in 27 years of marriage occurred one year on a Saturday evening in October.  I had entered our home about 10 minutes before said discussion, after returning from a CW Spectacular. 

We laugh about it now.  It was really a good fight!

My husband even made the comment, "A lot of good going to Spectacular did YOU!"

I'm not against ladies' meetings, but I prefer the single day, no overnight stay meetings that are more along the line of encouraging rather than diminishing all hopes of being the perfect Christian woman, wife, mother....


 
patriotic said:
I think I have said this on this forum (or the other one) before, but the absolutely worst "disagreement and discussion" my husband and I have ever had in 27 years of marriage occurred one year on a Saturday evening in October.  I had entered our home about 10 minutes before said discussion, after returning from a CW Spectacular. 

We laugh about it now.  It was really a good fight!

My husband even made the comment, "A lot of good going to Spectacular did YOU!"

I'm not against ladies' meetings, but I prefer the single day, no overnight stay meetings that are more along the line of encouraging rather than diminishing all hopes of being the perfect Christian woman, wife, mother....

I'll bet you criticized him for his hair touching his ears, didn't you?  >:(
Well, he had it coming!
 
16KJV11 said:
patriotic said:
I think I have said this on this forum (or the other one) before, but the absolutely worst "disagreement and discussion" my husband and I have ever had in 27 years of marriage occurred one year on a Saturday evening in October.  I had entered our home about 10 minutes before said discussion, after returning from a CW Spectacular. 

We laugh about it now.  It was really a good fight!

My husband even made the comment, "A lot of good going to Spectacular did YOU!"

I'm not against ladies' meetings, but I prefer the single day, no overnight stay meetings that are more along the line of encouraging rather than diminishing all hopes of being the perfect Christian woman, wife, mother....

I'll bet you criticized him for his hair touching his ears, didn't you?  >:(
Well, he had it coming!

Yes, I am so ashamed now.  As I think back to that conference, I realized it was CF who spoke, and she never had the problem with RAIDER's [lack of] hair.  I have since repented and thank God that my man has hair! 
 
The only thing FBCH's concept of a ladies conference is missing is the Bible...

 
I realize that you need humor during a conference to keep everyone awake.  We all remember how refreshing the skits were at Pastor's School.  It seems like the Ladies' Conferences are full of "goofiness" and "childliness".  Maybe you ladies enjoy this kind of stuff, but a lot of it seems so goofy.  If you listen to 5 minutes of Joyce Meyer on the radio, you hear the same thing in her crowd.
 
RAIDER said:
I realize that you need humor during a conference to keep everyone awake.  We all remember how refreshing the skits were at Pastor's School.  It seems like the Ladies' Conferences are full of "goofiness" and "childliness".  Maybe you ladies enjoy this kind of stuff, but a lot of it seems so goofy.  If you listen to 5 minutes of Joyce Meyer on the radio, you hear the same thing in her crowd.

Well, I don't like Joyce Meyer either.  Maybe it's the whole woman preacher thing I don't like.  I like woman speakers, but to hear a woman preacher it just irritates me to no end and that's why I won't and don't go to ladies conferences anymore.  Hearing BG do her goofy renditions makes me ill, but I loved how Mrs. Hyles spoke and not preached and some of the other women.  Loud women irritate me.  Getting down off my pulpit.
 
Still There said:
Well, I don't like Joyce Meyer either.  Maybe it's the whole woman preacher thing I don't like.  I like woman speakers, but to hear a woman preacher it just irritates me to no end and that's why I won't and don't go to ladies conferences anymore.  Hearing BG do her goofy renditions makes me ill, but I loved how Mrs. Hyles spoke and not preached and some of the other women.  Loud women irritate me.  Getting down off my pulpit.

Right on, homegirl!!
 
Still There said:
RAIDER said:
I realize that you need humor during a conference to keep everyone awake.  We all remember how refreshing the skits were at Pastor's School.  It seems like the Ladies' Conferences are full of "goofiness" and "childliness".  Maybe you ladies enjoy this kind of stuff, but a lot of it seems so goofy.  If you listen to 5 minutes of Joyce Meyer on the radio, you hear the same thing in her crowd.

Well, I don't like Joyce Meyer either.  Maybe it's the whole woman preacher thing I don't like.  I like woman speakers, but to hear a woman preacher it just irritates me to no end and that's why I won't and don't go to ladies conferences anymore.  Hearing BG do her goofy renditions makes me ill, but I loved how Mrs. Hyles spoke and not preached and some of the other women.  Loud women irritate me.  Getting down off my pulpit.
You mean Hillary Clinton irritates you?
 
Today in my life I want to hear about ladies who are living what they preach...........I don't want to be told how to have a good marriage. Marriage is work and commitment...no one has a perfect marriage if you do you're lying!! I don't want to be told how to rear my children and they will serve the Lord. If you have children and they are following the Lord it's because they chose to it's by choice...I'm talking about children over the age of 18 ...younger we are their bosses until they leave home. We need examples of ladies who are surviving unbelieveable situations and still get up and serve the Lord. We have a lady in our church her husband lives in pain 24/7 they were both in church Sunday. When I saw her I just went over and hugged her and told her what a blessing she was to me. She is living with unbelieveable decisions. When things happen have a group of ladies that are your support system which I call my prayer warriors. No one makes it alone........I've never felt alone ...I'm going back to bed I work tomorrow...
 
A few months ago a man in my SS class made the comment when someone asks you to pray for them, stop right then and there and pray with them.  I thought about it because I do pray for these people in my daily prayers, but never thought about stopping right then and there and actually praying with them.  I make it a point now that if someone says to me directly to them to pray for them, I stop and put my hand on their shoulder if they're a man and if it's a woman (I'm a woman) and will put my arms around their waist and pray a prayer quietly with them.  I think they're very touched about that.  And, it's just a few seconds of a prayer. 
 
Thank you Still There.........God bless you!!
 
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