Is This Standard HAC Preaching?

[IFB X-Files]

Schaap taught homiletics at a different hour and had a larger class, but he would have guys yell and scream a phrase over and over again until he thought they got it right.

Schaap had us preach, 1.  on the street  2.  in a park  3.  in a bar.

The last one was really a challenge.  Got a good grade for it.

 

[Binaca Chugger]

Years ago I heard David Otis Fuller preach in a church outside of Madison, WI. He was chastising the people and said that if you went out of this church and didn't care who made fun of you and didn't care what anyone said about you that you would turn that town upside down. One of the Maranatha students said Amen! Fuller turned on him like a cat and said, "Why don't you do it then? You can't stand being called names!"

It never occurred to me that Dr. Fuller never turned Grand Rapid upside down either.

Same can be said of AD. He didn't knock down the walls of Martinsburg, VA and take the city and so far I haven't heard any walls falling around Longview.

Heard stories of him going on tour for the college and correcting pastors and their churches?

The funny thing is people keep having this guy come? When I got to hear him back in my college days I had heard people say good things about him,... Then afterwards I remember thinking, "I don't get it?"

IF you mean AD, yes.  It is correct.  He would actually go to people in the church and tell them the pastor was wrong, effectively splitting the church. 

 

[16KJV11]

Years ago I heard David Otis Fuller preach in a church outside of Madison, WI. He was chastising the people and said that if you went out of this church and didn't care who made fun of you and didn't care what anyone said about you that you would turn that town upside down. One of the Maranatha students said Amen! Fuller turned on him like a cat and said, "Why don't you do it then? You can't stand being called names!"

It never occurred to me that Dr. Fuller never turned Grand Rapid upside down either.

Same can be said of AD. He didn't knock down the walls of Martinsburg, VA and take the city and so far I haven't heard any walls falling around Longview.

Heard stories of him going on tour for the college and correcting pastors and their churches?

The funny thing is people keep having this guy come? When I got to hear him back in my college days I had heard people say good things about him,... Then afterwards I remember thinking, "I don't get it?"

IF you mean AD, yes.  It is correct.  He would actually go to people in the church and tell them the pastor was wrong, effectively splitting the church.

I had Dommelle preach for me several times and he never did this at my church and never heard of him doing this at anyone else' church either.
Other than the fact that he was too loud, everyone like his messages.
And we aren't X'ers at my church.

 

[prophet]

I knew the name without listening to the sermon.  Funny thing, he only preaches sermons other people have already preached.  He is a very good imitator.  When JH was alive, he bragged about how much he resembled JH.  When he was with JS, he started sounding just like JS.  Then he moved and started preaching and imitating his pastor's sermons and style.  I have no idea what he is going to do now.  A rather proud and arrogant fellow who preaches the sexism that he "finds" in the Bible along with alot of other oddities.

Yes, it is the method we learned in Hammond.  Bro. Hyles was our example.  He picked a verse, dug out a nugget and preached the nugget, not the verse.  JH was better at it than most.  JH basically preached lessons he learned over a lifetime of teaching, preaching, counseling and watching others.  The imitators do not have such basis upon which to proclaim truths and wind up preaching hteir fancy much more than JH ever did.  The result is typically a cheap imitation of a sermon from yesteryear or wild heresy.  Either way, I am not impressed.

Very good insight, my brother. You summed up the last 20 years of observation quite nicely.  Most of the JH knock-offs, have nada.  I started making a list of heresies taught or preached while I was at HAC.  I wrote a Biblical answer, and filed them.  They fill a pick-up truck bed, now. 
Some of the most dangerous trends, are the 'Spriritualization of Proverbs'  and assigning the teachings of Jesus 'to the Jews, not to the church'.  Between these two, all of the Scriptures is turned on His head. 


Anishinabe

 

[prophet]

Here's a for instance:  recently heard  a 'preacher' blast 'The Bible on a cell phone', and quoted 'bring me the parchments'  by Paul as his support text.  Didn't have the heart to Splain to him that these were lambskin scrolls, hand copied, unlike his print-press Copy.  Or that 1 Gospel could have been borrowed...for a months wages.  Or that the scrolls would fill his living room.  Nope, I just did what I usually do, and wrote him off.

Anishinabe

 

[Binaca Chugger]

Years ago I heard David Otis Fuller preach in a church outside of Madison, WI. He was chastising the people and said that if you went out of this church and didn't care who made fun of you and didn't care what anyone said about you that you would turn that town upside down. One of the Maranatha students said Amen! Fuller turned on him like a cat and said, "Why don't you do it then? You can't stand being called names!"

It never occurred to me that Dr. Fuller never turned Grand Rapid upside down either.

Same can be said of AD. He didn't knock down the walls of Martinsburg, VA and take the city and so far I haven't heard any walls falling around Longview.

Heard stories of him going on tour for the college and correcting pastors and their churches?

The funny thing is people keep having this guy come? When I got to hear him back in my college days I had heard people say good things about him,... Then afterwards I remember thinking, "I don't get it?"

IF you mean AD, yes.  It is correct.  He would actually go to people in the church and tell them the pastor was wrong, effectively splitting the church.

I had Dommelle preach for me several times and he never did this at my church and never heard of him doing this at anyone else' church either.
Other than the fact that he was too loud, everyone like his messages.
And we aren't X'ers at my church.

Well, now you have heard it.  Lady shows emotion in preaching.  He finds her during the day, listens to 10 minutes of crying and gives counsel.  When she tells him the pastor didn't advise, he couldn't correct himself for he feels he is never wrong.  So, he blasts the pastor.  He finishes the week long meeting with 2 more Dr. Hyles reruns and leaves town.  He knew nothing of the situation and gave bad advice, especially when he contradicted the pastor.  The riff he started split the church.  Pompous, Arrogant Imitator who doesn't know the Bible well enough to develop and preach his own BIBLE sermon, yet writes a book on how to study the Bible. :

 

[CONSPIRATOR]

Not a biggie but AD doesn't do week long meetings.

 

[BALAAM]

Not a biggie but AD doesn't do week long meetings.

But, maybe he would: If he could!

 

[Baptist City Holdout]

Schaap taught homiletics at a different hour and had a larger class, but he would have guys yell and scream a phrase over and over again until he thought they got it right.

Schaap had us preach, 1.  on the street  2.  in a park  3.  in a bar.

The last one was really a challenge.  Got a good grade for it.

I just made it to the parking lot of a bar and that was OK.

 

[IFB X-Files]

I just made it to the parking lot of a bar and that was OK.

Slacker!

 

[BALAAM]

Schaap taught homiletics at a different hour and had a larger class, but he would have guys yell and scream a phrase over and over again until he thought they got it right.

Schaap had us preach, 1.  on the street  2.  in a park  3.  in a bar.

The last one was really a challenge.  Got a good grade for it.

I just made it to the parking lot of a bar and that was OK.

Was this today????

 

[IFB X-Files]

I just made it to the parking lot of a bar and that was OK.

Was this today????

 

[Baptist City Holdout]

I shoulda kept quiet!