Is the Bible Perfect?

[The Real Bob]

or tahor {taw-hore'}; from 2891; pure (in a physical, chemical, ceremonial or moral sense):--clean, fair, pure(-ness).

Okay... which part of that definition carries the meaning David intended when he said "Thy word is very pure: therefore thy servant loveth it." Psalm 119:140

Was David claiming the word of God was physically pure?
Was David claiming the word of God was chemically pure?
Was David claiming the word of God was ceremonially pure?
Or, was David claiming the word of God is morally pure?

Quit giving OZZY a hard time. He wants everyone to know he knows how to look up a word in his Strong's Concordence.

 

[FSSL]

Quit giving OZZY a hard time. He wants everyone to know he knows how to look up a word in his Strong's Concordence.

LOL! When people copy and paste from Strong's Concordance, you can be assured that they are winging it!

 

[brianb]

I know you were talking about translations but
Psalm 19:7
The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

 

[Izdaari]

Grant it, a host of commentaries say this passage has nothing to do with the Bible, and they probably are correct, but clearly and logically the Words of God are always pure. So, the core of my internal conflict is how can we trust something not pure? How do I know that a certain passage, or chapter, or book is really from God? Christians insist on their Bibles being "The Word of God" ... but from what I am being told it really isn't His EXACT words but translations from reliable text that are copies of inspired writings from men we should trust. Not exactly pure - kind of like pure mud.

Perhaps the boys at the IFBxer Churches have messed my mind up. After all, I probably would be loving a NIV right now and not even worrying about this if not for them. BUT! I am greatly concerned about this and when I hold a ESV, have on my screen a NIV, a KJV on my other knee .... I find a problem I can't understand. One has a missing verse, another a different word that is totally different than the other ....

Point is, I want to rest in God's Word, but I can't.

The controversy is made up. In a struggle to convince people that the KJVO movement is biblical, they misuse Psalm 12. Read the entire Psalm and you will quickly see that God is preserving His people. EVEN the KJV translators have a marginal note to that effect. God's word has been preserved. We are told that from other passages (e.g., 1 Peter). However, we are never told that it would finally be preserved in a single English translation put together by Anglicans.

Right, but not to diss Anglicans. I like them enough that I'm about to officially become one. That started with C.S. Lewis, who is the single human most responsible for my being a Christian today, and continued with N.T. Wright, my favorite Bible scholar, acknowledged by Christianity Today as one of the top five NT scholars in the world. Even while in other churches, I have always felt Anglican at heart.

But, as you all know, I'm not a huge fan of the translation they finished in 1611. I recognize it's literary and historic importance, and for its time, it was state of the art. Sometimes, when I'm feeling especially literary, I read it for its poetic beauty, and in a devotional way. But we have better manuscripts and scholarship now, and we no longer speak that dialect. We need a translation into current Modern English, not Early Modern English.

 

[wheatpenny]

I have always felt Anglican at heart.

I feel the same way about Quakerism.  I've changed religions about 5 or 6 times in my life and when I discovered Quakerism (about 5 years ago) I felt like this was what I was looking for all my life.

 

[Izdaari]

I have always felt Anglican at heart.

I feel the same way about Quakerism.  I've changed religions about 5 or 6 times in my life and when I discovered Quakerism (about 5 years ago) I felt like this was what I was looking for all my life.

Yeah, there ya go! That's just how I feel about Anglicanism.  :-*

 

[wtyson]

Yes. The Bible is perfect.

 

[JrChurch]

Yes. The Bible is perfect.

I agree.

 

[standingtall]

Yes. The Bible is perfect.

Well, thank you.  That should settle the matter then.  This statement means a lot coming from someone who thinks a picture of a fat lady in a bikini is porn.

 

[Castor Muscular]

I have always felt Anglican at heart.

I feel the same way about Quakerism.  I've changed religions about 5 or 6 times in my life and when I discovered Quakerism (about 5 years ago) I felt like this was what I was looking for all my life.

I don't know much about Quakerism, but I eat your oats every morning. 

 

[Castor Muscular]

Yes. The Bible is perfect.

Which Bible is perfect (as if I didn't know)?