Hammond pastor blames health, financial woes for his relationship with teen

[Ransom]

Spotted on SFL's Facebook page . . .

The former pastor of First Baptist Church of Hammond says in a new court filing that health and financial problems preceded a sexual relationship he had with a then-16-year-old girl last summer.

[source]

I gotta fever . . . and the only cure is more jailbait!

Schaap, with support from federal attorneys as part of his plea bargain, is seeking a below-guideline sentence of 10 years, which is the mandatory minimum he can serve under the charge.

He acknowledges in his filing he violated a position of trust with the girl but also notes his long service to the community.

Plus, they really need to consider all those underage girls he didn't rape.

Along with the memorandum, Schaap also filed 140 letters of support from family and church members. Most said that Schaap

 

[Sherryh]

There is no excuse for his actions..................take responsibility and then take the sentence of 10 years ..........

Don't blame it on a teenager..............

PS I forgot to add this Bro Schapp has no financial woes he is has money but it's probably frozen now............

 

[brianb]

So basically he's saying he needed sex for stress relief and his wife isn't good enough. He didn't even consider praying. I know of a number of pastors who have health problems and don't have enough money but they pray.

 

[Castor Muscular]

Da debil made me do it.

 

[FreeToBeMe]

His ego and a certain part of his male anatomy "preceded his sexual relationship", not health or financial problems. 

 

[Vandal]

Or he is a sex crazed perv...

 

[Castor Muscular]

Flip Wilson on The Ed Sullivan Show

 

[Sherryh]

Castor, I always loved Flip Wilson no one could touch his humor

 

[T-Bone]

I am always amazed at the statement..."well he did it, but that is not the kind of person he is"...bologna---that's exactly the kind of person he is, that's why he did it.  That's why him and those like him are disqualified...too bad a certain Florida church can't see that and have trusted the souls of their youth to Braemer!  Pathetic & dangerous!

 

[Frag]

I am always amazed at the statement..."well he did it, but that is not the kind of person he is"...bologna---that's exactly the kind of person he is, that's why he did it.  That's why him and those like him are disqualified...too bad a certain Florida church can't see that and have trusted the souls of their youth to Braemer!  Pathetic & dangerous!

I want you to understand I am anything but a Schaap defender. 

Explain your reasoning as you examine the life of David.  The affair with Bathsheba was a one-time moral sin, not the public uncovering of a secret life.

Just saying -- don't let your FBC bias push you into drawing unbiblical conclusions.

 

[Torrent v.2]

I am always amazed at the statement..."well he did it, but that is not the kind of person he is"...bologna---that's exactly the kind of person he is, that's why he did it.  That's why him and those like him are disqualified...too bad a certain Florida church can't see that and have trusted the souls of their youth to Braemer!  Pathetic & dangerous!

I want you to understand I am anything but a Schaap defender. 

Explain your reasoning as you examine the life of David.  The affair with Bathsheba was a one-time moral sin, not the public uncovering of a secret life.

Just saying -- don't let your FBC bias push you into drawing unbiblical conclusions.

Schaap is no David.  Seriously Frag, you are way off base here.

 

[Ransom]

Anytime a cult-of-personality psycho-fundy preacher gets caught with Little Jack violating the "sacred bodily parts" of someone he's not married to, he gets to be David.

Meanwhile, the men after God's heart go pretty much unnoticed.

Jack Schaap is not a man after God's heart. Unless by "God's heart," you mean jailbait panties.

 

[prophet]

Schaap has been a habitual liar for decades.  He had his little honeys down at the 'purdue ministry' to girls gone wild.  He was taken down to the gutter, by God, who is not mocked.  So compare him to Eli's sons, or some other pretentious perverts, but not David.

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[Just John]

...he's saying he needed sex for stress relief and his wife isn't good enough. He didn't even consider praying. I know of a number of pastors who have health problems and don't have enough money but they pray.

And can't we all just hear him sarcastically yelling out those same words about some other pastor some Sunday night in a service at FBCH....pre-scandal?

 

[Sherryh]

prophet I tried to give you a thumbs up and it told me to wait an hour.............Amen!!

just john AMEN!

 

[Castor Muscular]

Mary had a little lamb,
A little pork, a little ham.
A little lobster on the side--
It's little wonder Mary died!

Mary had a little lamb,
The butcher killed it dead.
Now she takes the lamb to school
Between two hunks of bread.

Mary had a little car,
the car she painted red.
And everywhere that Mary went
the cops pick up the dead.

Mary had a little bird
she killed it in a rage.
'Cause every time her boyfriend came
the parrot told her age.

 

[Frag]

I am always amazed at the statement..."well he did it, but that is not the kind of person he is"...bologna---that's exactly the kind of person he is, that's why he did it.  That's why him and those like him are disqualified...too bad a certain Florida church can't see that and have trusted the souls of their youth to Braemer!  Pathetic & dangerous!

Again, I am NOT defending Schaap.  There is plenty of evidence of what existed in his heart, before this happened.

If T-Bones comment was specifically about Schaap, then I AMEN him.  But if it was a blanket statement about EVERY man who ever crashed and burned morally, then you have to explain David.

I know a preacher who recently threw away a lengthy ministry at a good, successful church because of an improper relationship with a woman he (unwisely) agreed to counsel one-on-one.  He confessed it before his church, resigned, and had the guts to walk back to the back door and personally apologize to every member of his church as they left.  He now is out of the ministry, and is focused on working on repairing his marriage and his life.  Every one who knew him -- staff, long-time members, wife, children, preacher friends --- everyone agrees this was a one-time foolish and sinful indiscretion, not the unveiling of a secret life.  Good, faithful men (yes, even men after God's own heart) sometimes just do something stupid. 

Again, my exception to the comment is only in regard to ALL situations, not Schaap's.  And if any of you think you are above being the next to fall, you probably just moved yourself to the front of the line. 

 

[FreeToBeMe]

And if any of you think you are above being the next to fall, you probably just moved yourself to the front of the line.

Nah....we'd have to cut in front of you, and we wouldn't want you to lose your place.

 

[Frag]

I am always amazed at the statement..."well he did it, but that is not the kind of person he is"...bologna---that's exactly the kind of person he is, that's why he did it.  That's why him and those like him are disqualified...too bad a certain Florida church can't see that and have trusted the souls of their youth to Braemer!  Pathetic & dangerous!

Again, I am NOT defending Schaap.  There is plenty of evidence of what existed in his heart, before this happened.

If T-Bones comment was specifically about Schaap, then I AMEN him.  But if it was a blanket statement about EVERY man who ever crashed and burned morally, then you have to explain David.

I know a preacher who recently threw away a lengthy ministry at a good, successful church because of an improper relationship with a woman he (unwisely) agreed to counsel one-on-one.  He confessed it before his church, resigned, and had the guts to walk back to the back door and personally apologize to every member of his church as they left.  He now is out of the ministry, and is focused on working on repairing his marriage and his life.  Every one who knew him -- staff, long-time members, wife, children, preacher friends --- everyone agrees this was a one-time foolish and sinful indiscretion, not the unveiling of a secret life.  Good, faithful men (yes, even men after God's own heart) sometimes just do something stupid. 

Again, my exception to the comment is only in regard to ALL situations, not Schaap's.  And if any of you think you are above being the next to fall, you probably just moved yourself to the front of the line.

Wow. Great wisdom. 

We need Frag to post more often.  Finally, a clear sensible voice midst the muck of mental mediocrity. 

 

[christundivided]

I am always amazed at the statement..."well he did it, but that is not the kind of person he is"...bologna---that's exactly the kind of person he is, that's why he did it.  That's why him and those like him are disqualified...too bad a certain Florida church can't see that and have trusted the souls of their youth to Braemer!  Pathetic & dangerous!

Again, I am NOT defending Schaap.  There is plenty of evidence of what existed in his heart, before this happened.

If T-Bones comment was specifically about Schaap, then I AMEN him.  But if it was a blanket statement about EVERY man who ever crashed and burned morally, then you have to explain David.

I know a preacher who recently threw away a lengthy ministry at a good, successful church because of an improper relationship with a woman he (unwisely) agreed to counsel one-on-one.  He confessed it before his church, resigned, and had the guts to walk back to the back door and personally apologize to every member of his church as they left.  He now is out of the ministry, and is focused on working on repairing his marriage and his life.  Every one who knew him -- staff, long-time members, wife, children, preacher friends --- everyone agrees this was a one-time foolish and sinful indiscretion, not the unveiling of a secret life.  Good, faithful men (yes, even men after God's own heart) sometimes just do something stupid. 

Again, my exception to the comment is only in regard to ALL situations, not Schaap's.  And if any of you think you are above being the next to fall, you probably just moved yourself to the front of the line.

Wow. Great wisdom. 

We need Frag to post more often.  Finally, a clear sensible voice midst the muck of mental mediocrity.

You've got to be kidding????

1. I bet there is more to your story than you're providing. What has the "women" being "counseled" had to say about him? Why don't you really look at the victim in this instance and not the "victimizer".

2. Just one simple question for you. What IF there was historical evidence to prove that the Apostle Paul committed a "one time" indiscretion? Would his message MEAN anything?

All your talk of David means nothing. David was a king not a spiritual leader of congregation trying to follow Christ.

If you're going to really make a comparison.... What if "Nathan" the prophet had been the one to have stolen a man's wife and had another man "killed"? Do you think he would have still held his position as "prophet"? Or Abiathar the priest?

You can't give one SINGLE example where a "prophet, priest, apostles, pastor or anything of the sort"... held their position after such a situation not ever returned to said position. Care to name one?

Get your facts straight.

Not to mention that David was ruined for the rest of his life. He almost lost his rule to his OWN SON.  How about reading 2 Samuel 18:33 again. David even "numbered" the people which resulted in 70,000 men dying. Oh yeah.... David really recovered well.

I all for the "take heed lest ye fall" but you're being silly about the affects of sin and their punishment. None of US have been judged according to our sin but sin certain has consequence or you "reap what you sow" has no meaning.