I heard from two different sources that FBCH, under JS, sent some staff to Willow Creek (Hybels) to learn some things. The problem is I cannot remember who told me... ;D ...yeah, my memory is like that. If you know that to be true if you could either post it here or message me I would appreciate it. I told somebody that yesterday and they asked me for confirmation, so I either need to get that confirmation or I need to retract it. Thanks.