HAC Grad?

[Twisted]

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2017/04/17/spice-k2-synthetic-drugs-homeland-security-baptist-church/100433972/

 

[Jo]

10 tons of synthetic drugs!!!  That's quite a story.

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[Vince Massi]

There's a Ruckmanite church in Indianapolis with the same name, but they have a different pastor. I can't confirm that it is the same church. http://www.adventuresinscripture.com/

Irvington, Indiana is now part of Indianapolis. Linking a few different stories, I'm going to stick my neck out and say that it is the same church.

 

[Twisted]

There's a Ruckmanite church in Indianapolis with the same name, but they have a different pastor. I can't confirm that it is the same church. http://www.adventuresinscripture.com/

Yeah, different pastor.  Reason?  You can't be pastor while in prison (or else Jack would still be pastor at FBCH).

Contact the new pastor and tell him he's a Ruckmanite.  Post his response.

 

[Vince Massi]

There's a Ruckmanite church in Indianapolis with the same name, but they have a different pastor. I can't confirm that it is the same church. http://www.adventuresinscripture.com/

Contact the new pastor and tell him he's a Ruckmanite.  Post his response.

Twisted, I've never met a Ruckmanite yet who would admit it.

I don't blame them. They ought to be ashamed.

 

[Vince Massi]

There's a Ruckmanite church in Indianapolis with the same name, but they have a different pastor. I can't confirm that it is the same church. http://www.adventuresinscripture.com/

Yeah, different pastor.  Reason?  You can't be pastor while in prison (or else Jack would still be pastor at FBCH).

The April 20, 2017 Christian Post states "USA Today reported last year during Jaynes' guilty plea that he remained pastor of the church despite his involvement in the production of synthetic drugs. He kept preaching and telling his congregation to turn away from earthly temptations."
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/indiana-pastor-sentenced-to-more-than-a-decade-behind-bars-for-involvement-in-drug-ring-180811/#LRli7ETilZRf7gAh.99

 

[bgwilkinson]

Just a typical condescending, holier than thou IFB pestor.

 

[Vince Massi]

Just a typical condescending, holier than thou IFB pestor.

Aw, come on, Brother.

First of all, he isn't a fundamentalist. He's a Ruckmanite.
And believe it or not, most Ruckmanite pastors are Godly men.  ( I know you believe that, but you might not have known that I believe it as well).

 

[Twisted]

Twisted, I've never met a Ruckmanite yet who would admit it.

Hence, using Vinny's "logic", any one he accuses of being a Ruckmanite is one.  Denying it just means they are.

Salem witch trials come to mind.

 

[Vince Massi]

Twisted, I've never met a Ruckmanite yet who would admit it.

Hence, using Vinny's "logic", any one he accuses of being a Ruckmanite is one.  Denying it just means they are.

Salem witch trials come to mind.

Nope. A Ruckmanite is a person who believes Peter Ruckman's doctrine that the KJV is the Word of God. Because this doctrine is not found in the KJV, they are not "King James Only." They are Ruckmanites.

 

[bgwilkinson]

Twisted, I've never met a Ruckmanite yet who would admit it.

Hence, using Vinny's "logic", any one he accuses of being a Ruckmanite is one.  Denying it just means they are.

Salem witch trials come to mind.

Nope. A Ruckmanite is a person who believes Peter Ruckman's doctrine that the KJV is the Word of God. Because this doctrine is not found in the KJV, they are not "King James Only." They are Ruckmanites.

Did Ruckman pull a full Ripplinger and claim valid Bible versions are Satan's bibles?

 

[Vince Massi]

"Did Ruckman pull a full Ripplinger and claim valid Bible versions are Satan's bibles?"

Beats me. I remember him telling a racist joke in one of his commentaries. Does that help?

 

[Walt]

Twisted, I've never met a Ruckmanite yet who would admit it.

Hence, using Vinny's "logic", any one he accuses of being a Ruckmanite is one.  Denying it just means they are.

Salem witch trials come to mind.

Nope. A Ruckmanite is a person who believes Peter Ruckman's doctrine that the KJV is the Word of God. Because this doctrine is not found in the KJV, they are not "King James Only." They are Ruckmanites.

Stated more correctly, Peter Ruckman believed that the KJV was given by inspiration of God, which many KJV "only" pastors utterly reject.

I believe that the KJV is the result of the preserved Word of God translated into English.  Over the years, some of its words have become obsolete.

Ruckmanism is not the same as "KJV only"; it is one form of it.

 

[TidesofTruth]

Twisted, I've never met a Ruckmanite yet who would admit it.

Hence, using Vinny's "logic", any one he accuses of being a Ruckmanite is one.  Denying it just means they are.

Salem witch trials come to mind.

Nope. A Ruckmanite is a person who believes Peter Ruckman's doctrine that the KJV is the Word of God. Because this doctrine is not found in the KJV, they are not "King James Only." They are Ruckmanites.

I believe that the KJV is the result of the preserved Word of God translated into English.  Over the years, some of its words have become obsolete.

I would use the word "archaic" and the difference in the use of the word "obsolete" and "archaic" is probably the major difference in why I would stay with the KJV and you might prefer a more modern version.

 

[Twisted]

So the guy is NOT a HAC grad?

Well, that's good.

 

[Vince Massi]

So the guy is NOT a HAC grad?

Well, that's good.

We don't know. I can't find anything one way or the other on where he went to college.

 

[Walt]

I believe that the KJV is the result of the preserved Word of God translated into English.  Over the years, some of its words have become obsolete.

I would use the word "archaic" and the difference in the use of the word "obsolete" and "archaic" is probably the major difference in why I would stay with the KJV and you might prefer a more modern version.

I'm not sure of the difference you are trying to make; per the dictionary, obsolete means "out of use for the past century" and archaic means "commonly used in an earlier time, but rare in present-day usage".

I would submit that both apply: words like lasciviousness are archaic, but not obsolete, but words like holpen and carriages are, I believe, obsolete.

 

[TidesofTruth]

I believe that the KJV is the result of the preserved Word of God translated into English.  Over the years, some of its words have become obsolete.

I would use the word "archaic" and the difference in the use of the word "obsolete" and "archaic" is probably the major difference in why I would stay with the KJV and you might prefer a more modern version.

I'm not sure of the difference you are trying to make; per the dictionary, obsolete means "out of use for the past century" and archaic means "commonly used in an earlier time, but rare in present-day usage".

I would submit that both apply: words like lasciviousness are archaic, but not obsolete, but words like holpen and carriages are, I believe, obsolete.

Obsolescence has a sense that it must be replaced, while archaic is just fine being that way.

 

[Walt]

I believe that the KJV is the result of the preserved Word of God translated into English.  Over the years, some of its words have become obsolete.

I would use the word "archaic" and the difference in the use of the word "obsolete" and "archaic" is probably the major difference in why I would stay with the KJV and you might prefer a more modern version.

I'm not sure of the difference you are trying to make; per the dictionary, obsolete means "out of use for the past century" and archaic means "commonly used in an earlier time, but rare in present-day usage".

I would submit that both apply: words like lasciviousness are archaic, but not obsolete, but words like holpen and carriages are, I believe, obsolete.

Obsolescence has a sense that it must be replaced, while archaic is just fine being that way.

I'm fine with archaic instead of obsolete then, but I don't think obsolete words means that they must be replaced.

Whether archaic or obsolete if the reader does not understand what he is reading, it does not edify.  I read the word "leasing" in Psalms for years (& not understand it) before I did what I should have done the first time and looked it up.

I'm staying with the KJV too, but I'm not ignoring real issues with it -- I heard from a pastor that people whose first language is not English have a hard time with the older words that are no longer used (leasing, carriages, holpen)... not to mention my "favorite" -- "mansions", which is on old English word meaning "apartments".  The song "I've got a mansion just over the hilltop" makes me smile to myself.

 

[TidesofTruth]

I believe that the KJV is the result of the preserved Word of God translated into English.  Over the years, some of its words have become obsolete.

I would use the word "archaic" and the difference in the use of the word "obsolete" and "archaic" is probably the major difference in why I would stay with the KJV and you might prefer a more modern version.

I'm not sure of the difference you are trying to make; per the dictionary, obsolete means "out of use for the past century" and archaic means "commonly used in an earlier time, but rare in present-day usage".

I would submit that both apply: words like lasciviousness are archaic, but not obsolete, but words like holpen and carriages are, I believe, obsolete.

Obsolescence has a sense that it must be replaced, while archaic is just fine being that way.

I'm fine with archaic instead of obsolete then, but I don't think obsolete words means that they must be replaced.

Whether archaic or obsolete if the reader does not understand what he is reading, it does not edify.  I read the word "leasing" in Psalms for years (& not understand it) before I did what I should have done the first time and looked it up.

I'm staying with the KJV too, but I'm not ignoring real issues with it -- I heard from a pastor that people whose first language is not English have a hard time with the older words that are no longer used (leasing, carriages, holpen)... not to mention my "favorite" -- "mansions", which is on old English word meaning "apartments".  The song "I've got a mansion just over the hilltop" makes me smile to myself.

I'll take God's Apartment any day over man's Mansions