Five Thousand Saved

[Frag]

Again, 3000 people were saved because God empowered 120 Christians who spent 10 days praying, seeking the fullness of the Holy Spirit.  This required emptying themselves of sin and self so that they could be filled.  This required making sure they were right with each other -- in one accord.  Once filled, they went boldly into the streets (all went) and proclaimed the gospel.  Once a crowd gathered, Peter preached.  So as a result of 120 Christians personally testifying and a street preacher preaching, God brought conviction and 3000 people were saved. 

It still works.  But we have gotten too smart to follow the pattern of Acts. 

So, yes -- we all have a duty to seek the fulness of the Spirit, then through His power VERBALLY proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ to everyone we can. 

If we do this consistently, people will come to Christ. 

 

[christundivided]

How responsible are we for the unsaved?

Lets see God did his part. so He isn't responsible. the unsaved are blinded and void of the  truth, we have the truth and the command to go tell them the truth. so I would say the responsibility lies on the the Believer to go reach the lost!.

So, any believer that fails to do this is ________________________. (fill in the blank)

I find it frightening that God (who is willing that none should perish) depends on the feeble people of earth to reach the lost.

I come from a background that teaches 'reaching the lost' - but lately it hits me how vital the need is to go and preach since my religion teaches we are the hands and feet. People die and go to hell because of us (sure, some reject the gospel, but we could share more and live better to give them a Bible to read) .... wow.

Makes me wonder why I still sit on my butt and not share more. Why waste a moment on anything earthly.

.... makes me wonder about my whole outlook on this whole thing ...

Impossible.  But whatever floats your boat.  Salvation is 100% God 0% man.

While I agree with you. The average argument used to support such is rather weak.

Is there any application of Ezekiel as the "watchman" to be found in any of this?

 

[Timothy]

Again, 3000 people were saved because God empowered 120 Christians who spent 10 days praying, seeking the fullness of the Holy Spirit.  This required emptying themselves of sin and self so that they could be filled.  This required making sure they were right with each other -- in one accord.  Once filled, they went boldly into the streets (all went) and proclaimed the gospel.  Once a crowd gathered, Peter preached.  So as a result of 120 Christians personally testifying and a street preacher preaching, God brought conviction and 3000 people were saved. 

It still works.  But we have gotten too smart to follow the pattern of Acts. 

So, yes -- we all have a duty to seek the fulness of the Spirit, then through His power VERBALLY proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ to everyone we can. 

If we do this consistently, people will come to Christ.

So, if we don't do this consistently, people won't come to Christ? So then the salvation of a soul is dependent on humans? Is that your stand?

 

[Castor Muscular]

So, if we don't do this consistently, people won't come to Christ? So then the salvation of a soul is dependent on humans? Is that your stand?

The logical extension of this thought is to interpret Matthew 24:14 to mean Jesus cannot return until men have preached the Gospel to all nations.  I have heard that preached many times. 

14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

(That view is easily refuted by Revelation, but I still hear it preached that way.)

Just another example of how error begets error.

 

[Frag]

Again, 3000 people were saved because God empowered 120 Christians who spent 10 days praying, seeking the fullness of the Holy Spirit.  This required emptying themselves of sin and self so that they could be filled.  This required making sure they were right with each other -- in one accord.  Once filled, they went boldly into the streets (all went) and proclaimed the gospel.  Once a crowd gathered, Peter preached.  So as a result of 120 Christians personally testifying and a street preacher preaching, God brought conviction and 3000 people were saved. 

It still works.  But we have gotten too smart to follow the pattern of Acts. 

So, yes -- we all have a duty to seek the fulness of the Spirit, then through His power VERBALLY proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ to everyone we can. 

If we do this consistently, people will come to Christ.

So, if we don't do this consistently, people won't come to Christ? So then the salvation of a soul is dependent on humans? Is that your stand?

Timmy, ole boy, if you have bought into hyper-Calvinism, then you have bought into the single most damnable theology ever spawned from the mind of Satan. 

Now get out there and witness! 

 

[Frag]

Acts 8:26-35 (KJV)
26  And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.
27  And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
28  Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
29  Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
30  And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
31  And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
32  The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
33  In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.
34  And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
35  Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.



God sure went to a lot of trouble getting a saved man to a lost man to help him understand the Gospel.....


....you would think the whole irresistible grace thing would have been enough....  :

 

[Castor Muscular]

It's my son's job to set the table for dinner.  If he doesn't do it for some reason, I'll set it, myself.  I prefer that he do what I've told him to do, but either way, the table will get set. 

 

[Recovering IFB]

It's my son's job to set the table for dinner.  If he doesn't do it for some reason, I'll set it, myself.  I prefer that he do what I've told him to do, but either way, the table will get set.

But if he doesn't do it, is it a sign then he might not be your son. If he was your son, he would do it...

 

[Frag]

It's my son's job to set the table for dinner.  If he doesn't do it for some reason, I'll set it, myself.  I prefer that he do what I've told him to do, but either way, the table will get set.

But if he doesn't do it, is it a sign then he might not be your son. If he was your son, he would do it...

AND....if he IS your son, and he disobeys you, IF you are a good father, you will take him to the wood shed. 

 

[Castor Muscular]

It's my son's job to set the table for dinner.  If he doesn't do it for some reason, I'll set it, myself.  I prefer that he do what I've told him to do, but either way, the table will get set.

But if he doesn't do it, is it a sign then he might not be your son. If he was your son, he would do it...

AND....if he IS your son, and he disobeys you, IF you are a good father, you will take him to the wood shed.

Why?  What's in the wood shed?  I don't have one, anyway. 

 

[bruinboy]

Acts 8:26-35 (KJV)
31  And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me?

God sure went to a lot of trouble getting a saved man to a lost man to help him understand the Gospel.....

....you would think the whole irresistible grace thing would have been enough....  :

And what man guided the Apostle Paul?  As I remember he was hunting Jews and wanted nothing to do with God, but somehow God saved him anyway. Maybe someone gave him a tract on the road to Damascus just before God stuck him to the ground? LOL
Frag= Epic Fail

 

[Frag]

Acts 8:26-35 (KJV)
31  And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me?

God sure went to a lot of trouble getting a saved man to a lost man to help him understand the Gospel.....

....you would think the whole irresistible grace thing would have been enough....  :

And what man guided the Apostle Paul?  As I remember he was hunting Jews and wanted nothing to do with God, but somehow God saved him anyway. Maybe someone gave him a tract on the road to Damascus just before God stuck him to the ground? LOL
Frag= Epic Fail

Oh, I don't know......MAYBE the sermon Stephen preached before he was stoned was still ringing in his ears.....

Bruinboy=Epic Bible Ignorance

 

[Frag]

Romans 10:13-17 (KJV)
13  For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14  How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15  And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16  But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17  So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

 

[bruinboy]

Acts 8:26-35 (KJV)
31  And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me?

God sure went to a lot of trouble getting a saved man to a lost man to help him understand the Gospel.....

....you would think the whole irresistible grace thing would have been enough....  :

And what man guided the Apostle Paul?  As I remember he was hunting Jews and wanted nothing to do with God, but somehow God saved him anyway. Maybe someone gave him a tract on the road to Damascus just before God stuck him to the ground? LOL
Frag= Epic Fail

Oh, I don't know......MAYBE the sermon Stephen preached before he was stoned was still ringing in his ears.....

Bruinboy=Epic Bible Ignorance

Oh, so he heard a sermon..........lol.  He probably heard a lot of them, they might have even sang 47 verses of Just as I Am, sent in the deacons who were spying instead of praying during the invitation, to embarrass them to go forward. 
But Paul didn't get saved until God strcuk him down on the road to Damascus.  There probably wasn't a preacher within 20 miles of Paul at the time.  I know you believe man can't be saved without the intervention of another man, but that doesn't make it true.
Question for you:  Do you think Paul could have rejected God's call to salvation, got up off the ground and continued to Damascus to continue to kill believers?  He had a free will didn't he?  . 

 

[Timothy]

Again, 3000 people were saved because God empowered 120 Christians who spent 10 days praying, seeking the fullness of the Holy Spirit.  This required emptying themselves of sin and self so that they could be filled.  This required making sure they were right with each other -- in one accord.  Once filled, they went boldly into the streets (all went) and proclaimed the gospel.  Once a crowd gathered, Peter preached.  So as a result of 120 Christians personally testifying and a street preacher preaching, God brought conviction and 3000 people were saved. 

It still works.  But we have gotten too smart to follow the pattern of Acts. 

So, yes -- we all have a duty to seek the fulness of the Spirit, then through His power VERBALLY proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ to everyone we can. 

If we do this consistently, people will come to Christ.

So, if we don't do this consistently, people won't come to Christ? So then the salvation of a soul is dependent on humans? Is that your stand?

Timmy, ole boy, if you have bought into hyper-Calvinism, then you have bought into the single most damnable theology ever spawned from the mind of Satan. 

Now get out there and witness!

No. I have not bought into hyper-Calvinism. Just asking some questions.

 

[Timothy]

Romans 10:13-17 (KJV)
13  For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14  How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15  And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16  But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17  So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Yes, but couldn't God just impress on someones heart to share the gospel? Just saying.

Seems like, with all the false conversions, many folks are getting a bad idea of what salvation is all about. Though, some wouldn't call them false - some call them babes in Christ. Yes - they sure seem like they never believed anything.

I always found it interesting how some folks hear the Gospel and believe and naturally you can just tell they are Christians. Others, well, it seems like they just believe to get a ticket into heaven.

I don't know -  -  - what am I saying? Maybe I am just saying that leaving things in mans hands is dangerous, and perhaps the hands of God are the best for true salvation. He can do anything, including using his Children to share the gospel to those he wishes to be saved.

...... i don't know ....

 

[Castor Muscular]

I always found it interesting how some folks hear the Gospel and believe

It is interesting, and there's a pretty simple explanation. 

Acts 13:48 Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

 

[Timothy]

I always found it interesting how some folks hear the Gospel and believe

It is interesting, and there's a pretty simple explanation. 

Acts 13:48 Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

Hmmmmm ... Frag? What say ye about this?

 

[BALAAM]

It is fairly obvious after reading this thread that the majority of you folks have never been around hyles anderson college or fbch on a weekend. A lot of bus captains and ministry leaders have this many saved every weekend!

 

[bruinboy]

So you are saying they were taught to lie quickly at HAC?  If so, they learned form the best. Maybe they could get accredited in the Skewl of Lies.