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In order to graduate from HAC a student must have spent at least one year working in the bus ministry at FBCH.  Some spent a year; some stayed for the complete ride.  How long were you in the bus ministry while you were a student?  What year(s) of college were you in the bus ministry (i.e. freshman and sophomore)?  What were your reasons for staying/leaving? 
 
My freshman year I was in Foster club but rode on the bus on Sunday. Toward the end of the year I ditched foster club and did Sat visit as well. Soph year all year with bus route, Junior year all year with bus route. Senior year, was married and toward middle of year, hubby was no longer in school so wasnt allowed to be the bus captain. (plus had a slight falling out with Ray Young). So I stopped the bus route as well.

I loved the bus ministry!
 
One (school) year and one month.
Left because I started working third shift on Friday and Saturday, and sorry I was (am) no Super HACker. The summer after my freshman year, an older brother was killed in a car accident, probably because he was fatigued, cam back to school and saw all the joking about being tired and trying to drive. Enjoyed the time with a great group of guys, and maybe we were as egotistical as the rest, but saw the impression the ministry gave regarding "we're the only ones right w/God."
Guess you would call my departure a perfect storm.
 
2 semesters on an A bus route (HB privilege).  Visited with some church people who were real nice. 

Attended a total of 1 division meetings in my time at HAC.  After 3 minutes, I realized that this was not the place for me.  A bunch of lunatics being stupid for the sole sake of being stupid.  Total waste of time.  I needed to work and study - - and date!

Enjoyed other ministries.  Sailor was my favorite.  Felt like we were actually impacting lives.  You could see a sailor find Christ, start seeking counsel, become a soul-winner and have real change.  Bro. Hooker was very understanding and more about helping the workers become better people than mandating the workers make him more famous.

Spent some time in the Bible Clubs.  I found my club a total waste of time, ministerially (I did get to see my girl there).  Probably that fact that the leader I had was a married man who was heavily involved in an affair at the time had something to do with the wasted effort that the whole thing seemed to be.

I also did other ministries that were more typical of an HB punk (especially my freshman year).  You know, like the mall ministry or the basketball in the park ministry or the movie ministry (Hey, I left a tract!).
 
When I first began to attend HAC I did not know anyone.  I knew you had to be in the bus ministry for a year so I decided now was as good as any time.  I was "drafted" into Division 5.  Roger Casteel was the division leader and my bus captain was an upperclassman by the name of Bob Becker.

Bob was a unique guy.  He wanted to be a missionary to Africa.  He worked a full time job.  He did not have a car.  I mention that last point because it meant that we had to depend on others to get to and from Chicago.  Later I would find out that this was not good.

Bob was passionate about his bus route.  As soon as division meeting ended we were running to the car to get to Chicago.  Another bus captain would drop us off.  We were on foot with no transportation all day.  Bod also thought we should not leave the route until 9:30 or 10:00 at night.  The night bus was a must every week. 

Roger Casteel was an intimidating individual to a new freshman.  If you missed your route on Saturday or Sunday or if you failed to ride the night bus, you could incur his wrath.  He loved to scream and yell in division meetings.  He openly called students in other ministries, "deadbeats".

I worked beside Bob and Roger faithfully my complete freshman year.  For the most part I bought into what they were selling.  It bothered me a bit when I decided to go home on Thanksgiving and Christmas to see my family and they tried to make me feel guilty.  I didn't quite get it.

After my freshman year Casteel asked me if I would be a bus captain the following year.  He informed me that I would need to stay at HAC during the summer if I wanted the route.  I kindly told him that I would be going home for the summer.  From that point on he began to treat me differently.  I couldn't believe it.  Was he that shallow?

When I came back as a sophomore I decided it was time to get away from that jerk and try another ministry.  It was the best move that I ever made.  As much as I am a fan of the bus ministry (it's actually the tool God used to save me) I wanted nothing to do with the HAC /FBCH "style" of bus ministry. 
 
I was in the bus ministry 4 years as a student and then 2 years being married.
 
RAIDER said:
In order to graduate from HAC a student must have spent at least one year working in the bus ministry at FBCH. 
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Really?  I was there for 3 years before going for the Pastors Refresher diploma.  I never set a foot in a bus.
 
Anyone remember the days when Jim Vineyard ran the busses?? There's definitely gotta be some "tales out of school there"
 
AlvinMartinezVoice said:
Anyone remember the days when Jim Vineyard ran the busses?? There's definitely gotta be some "tales out of school there"
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No one can forget JAV that was at FBCH when he was the bus director.

The best place to look for the stuff that was going on before he was ask to leave can be found down below on the OBC forum. The junk that you read about there is representative of the man at FBCH.

You can't teach an old dog new tricks because that dog returns to his own vomit over and over again.

IMHO
 
Never spent more than a couple of weeks on a bus route. When a form was sent around asking what year you spent in the bus ministry I never answered the form. Graduated without it ever becoming a issue. I guess they wanted me gone.
 
kaba said:
My freshman year I was in Foster club but rode on the bus on Sunday. Toward the end of the year I ditched foster club and did Sat visit as well. Soph year all year with bus route, Junior year all year with bus route. Senior year, was married and toward middle of year, hubby was no longer in school so wasnt allowed to be the bus captain. (plus had a slight falling out with Ray Young). So I stopped the bus route as well.

I loved the bus ministry!
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My sister came to HAC as a freshman when I was a junior.  I had told her to avoid the bus ministry when she was a freshman, and instead to join the Phoster Club.  She HATED the Phoster Club and still blames me for it today.  Her roommate was on a bus route with a great captain.  My sister joined the route and loved it.
 
When I came to college I had never gone soulwinning, I need to learn...so I joined the Phoster club. I did not like it, but stuck it out for a bit. It just seemed so fake to me. I enjoyed and loved the bus route and the freedom of being outside without eyes watching my every move!
 
In the FBCH bus ministry it is all about who your captain is.  If my son were a freshman at HAC and he did not know anyone, I would tell him to join another ministry.  After he got to know a decent guy that was a bus captain he could join at that time.  There were far too many idiot bus captains when I was at HAC.
 
You are right Raider (boy, that was hard to say!), it all depends on the bus captain! I also think the bus ministry was easier on us girls than the guys! I think there was a lot of pressure for guys to succeed in the bus ministry.
 
kaba said:
You are right Raider (boy, that was hard to say!), it all depends on the bus captain! I also think the bus ministry was easier on us girls than the guys! I think there was a lot of pressure for guys to succeed in the bus ministry.
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You have just reached the smartest point in your life!  :)

Yes, there was a lot of pressure on the guys in the bus ministry - hours, hours, hours, numbers, numbers, numbers.  I had a couple of roommates that were not great students.  They were working full time jobs, working in the bus ministry, and failing their classes.  They were so tired that they couldn't stay awake in class.  Their study time consisted of break time at work.  At that point something needs to give.  Of course, the authorities at HAC didn't step in and help them.  It was, "When I was a college student I took a full class load, had 3 kids, worked 4 jobs, was a bus captain, and made the Dean's List!"

I actually knew more than one HAC student who failed class after class but felt they were at HAC to work in the bus ministry.  Yes, this is true! 
 
My husband did 4 years in 7!!! And it wasnt because he had a hard time learning!! But he did have a great bus route!!
 
kaba said:
My husband did 4 years in 7!!! And it wasnt because he had a hard time learning!! But he did have a great bus route!!
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Your husband did 4 years in 7 because he is a stinkin' (I love that word!) Hacker!!
 
He stayed summers and holidays for that bus route. Also gave LOTS of money so his bus kids could go to City Baptist and paid for the buses to roll!!
 
kaba said:
He stayed summers and holidays for that bus route. Also gave LOTS of money so his bus kids could go to City Baptist and paid for the buses to roll!!
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Your first step to recovery is standing and saying the words, "My name is kaba and I married a stinkin' Hacker".  :)
 
RAIDER said:
kaba said:
He stayed summers and holidays for that bus route. Also gave LOTS of money so his bus kids could go to City Baptist and paid for the buses to roll!!
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Your first step to recovery is standing and saying the words, "My name is kaba and I married a stinkin' Hacker".  :)
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Not anymore!! Im married but he is no longer a HACKER!!
 
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