Did Abraham "pimp" his wife?

[praise_yeshua]

Question. What one is true?

Genesis 12:19 NIV
Why did you say, 'She is my sister,' so that I took her to be my wife? Now then, here is your wife. Take her and go!"

Genesis 12:19 KJV
Why saidst thou, She is my sister? so I might have taken her to me to wife: now therefore behold thy wife, take her, and go thy way

It doesn't matter. Neither one says what they are trying to imply.

There is no evidence that Pharaoh and Sarah had sex. None.

Husband and wives don't have sex?

Mary wasn't a virgin either..... She was married to Joseph.

Are you really that limited in your biblical knowledge?

 

[praise_yeshua]

Question. What one is true?

Genesis 12:19 NIV
Why did you say, 'She is my sister,' so that I took her to be my wife? Now then, here is your wife. Take her and go!"

Genesis 12:19 KJV
Why saidst thou, She is my sister? so I might have taken her to me to wife: now therefore behold thy wife, take her, and go thy way

It doesn't matter. Neither one says what they are trying to imply.

There is no evidence that Pharaoh and Sarah had sex. None.

I haven't seen anyone claim that they did. In fact the point has been made numerous times that God intervened before such a thing could happen.

Exactly. The plagues  came to keep things from getting worse.

Will you make your mind up? You say they are married and had sex and then say they didn't. Can you please keep your lie straight!!!

Both FSSL and that NUT.... both claim they had sex. Hence. The term "pimp".... 'Pimps" don't play around when it comes to their whores!!!!

 

[subllibrm]

Question. What one is true?

Genesis 12:19 NIV
Why did you say, 'She is my sister,' so that I took her to be my wife? Now then, here is your wife. Take her and go!"

Genesis 12:19 KJV
Why saidst thou, She is my sister? so I might have taken her to me to wife: now therefore behold thy wife, take her, and go thy way

It doesn't matter. Neither one says what they are trying to imply.

There is no evidence that Pharaoh and Sarah had sex. None.

I haven't seen anyone claim that they did. In fact the point has been made numerous times that God intervened before such a thing could happen.

FSSL claims they did. Your sock...rsc2a claims they did.

Only in your imagination.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Question. What one is true?

Genesis 12:19 NIV
Why did you say, 'She is my sister,' so that I took her to be my wife? Now then, here is your wife. Take her and go!"

Genesis 12:19 KJV
Why saidst thou, She is my sister? so I might have taken her to me to wife: now therefore behold thy wife, take her, and go thy way

It doesn't matter. Neither one says what they are trying to imply.

There is no evidence that Pharaoh and Sarah had sex. None.

I haven't seen anyone claim that they did. In fact the point has been made numerous times that God intervened before such a thing could happen.

FSSL claims they did. Your sock...rsc2a claims they did.

Only in your imagination.

Ask them yourself if you don't believe me. FSSL used the term "violate". He agreed with that NUT on the "pimp" term for Abraham. Maybe you don't understand what that means.

Go back to your sock and get the sock to answer.

 

[subllibrm]

Question. What one is true?

Genesis 12:19 NIV
Why did you say, 'She is my sister,' so that I took her to be my wife? Now then, here is your wife. Take her and go!"

Genesis 12:19 KJV
Why saidst thou, She is my sister? so I might have taken her to me to wife: now therefore behold thy wife, take her, and go thy way

It doesn't matter. Neither one says what they are trying to imply.

There is no evidence that Pharaoh and Sarah had sex. None.

I haven't seen anyone claim that they did. In fact the point has been made numerous times that God intervened before such a thing could happen.

Exactly. The plagues  came to keep things from getting worse.

Will you make your mind up? You say they are married and had sex and then say they didn't. Can you please keep your lie straight!!!

Both FSSL and that NUT.... both claim they had sex. Hence. The term "pimp".... 'Pimps" don't play around when it comes to their whores!!!!

You are the one who added "whore" to the thought. You are the one who turned "prostituted" into pimping. You are the one who thinks rsc2a was comparing Abraham to a guy in a purple velvet suit driving a yellow Coupe Deville.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Question. What one is true?

Genesis 12:19 NIV
Why did you say, 'She is my sister,' so that I took her to be my wife? Now then, here is your wife. Take her and go!"

Genesis 12:19 KJV
Why saidst thou, She is my sister? so I might have taken her to me to wife: now therefore behold thy wife, take her, and go thy way

It doesn't matter. Neither one says what they are trying to imply.

There is no evidence that Pharaoh and Sarah had sex. None.

I haven't seen anyone claim that they did. In fact the point has been made numerous times that God intervened before such a thing could happen.

Exactly. The plagues  came to keep things from getting worse.

Will you make your mind up? You say they are married and had sex and then say they didn't. Can you please keep your lie straight!!!

Both FSSL and that NUT.... both claim they had sex. Hence. The term "pimp".... 'Pimps" don't play around when it comes to their whores!!!!

You are the one who added "whore" to the thought. You are the one who turned "prostituted" into pimping. You are the one who thinks rsc2a was comparing Abraham to a guy in a purple velvet suit driving a yellow Coupe Deville.

I included the link to his comments in the OP. You're the one that can't read. He used the word "pimp". I just repeated what he said.

Surely you can remember what you wrote in your other account. What proxy are you using?

 

[subllibrm]

Ask them yourself if you don't believe me. FSSL used the term "violate". He agreed with that NUT on the "pimp" term for Abraham. Maybe you don't understand what that means.

This one?

I am not above ANY potential sinful activity in this world. Neither was Abraham. This is a silly thread. Who cares how Abraham's failure is described. He allowed, on two, premeditated occasions other men to violate his wife.

One of us has a reading problem and it isn't me.

Abraham knew that by letting them take Sarah to the King that she would likely be added to the harem.  He also knew that meant that she would be expected to provided sexual services to the king. So by "allowing" her to be turned over to the Egyptians, he was for all intents and purposes "allowing" them to violate her. That does not automatically mean that they did violate her, only that Abraham allowed for it to happen (in fact he was expecting it to happen). And they would have had God not intervened.

Basically he said, hey honey go take one for the team.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Ask them yourself if you don't believe me. FSSL used the term "violate". He agreed with that NUT on the "pimp" term for Abraham. Maybe you don't understand what that means.

This one?

I am not above ANY potential sinful activity in this world. Neither was Abraham. This is a silly thread. Who cares how Abraham's failure is described. He allowed, on two, premeditated occasions other men to violate his wife.

One of us has a reading problem and it isn't me.

Abraham knew that by letting them take Sarah to the King that she would likely be added to the harem.  He also knew that meant that she would be expected to provided sexual services to the king. So by "allowing" her to be turned over to the Egyptians, he was for all intents and purposes "allowing" them to violate her. That does not automatically mean that they did violate her, only that Abraham allowed for it to happen (in fact he was expecting it to happen). And they would have had God not intervened.

Basically he said, hey honey go take one for the team.

Before I deal with the accusation concerning what I said and FSSL said.....

Lets back up. You accused me of twisting what your sock in using the word "pimp". Have you dropped that accusation or not?

You're wrong and you know you're wrong. You're the one that didn't read the entire post that I linked in the OP.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Ask them yourself if you don't believe me. FSSL used the term "violate". He agreed with that NUT on the "pimp" term for Abraham. Maybe you don't understand what that means.

This one?

I am not above ANY potential sinful activity in this world. Neither was Abraham. This is a silly thread. Who cares how Abraham's failure is described. He allowed, on two, premeditated occasions other men to violate his wife.

One of us has a reading problem and it isn't me.

What does "violate" mean?

Abraham knew that by letting them take Sarah to the King that she would likely be added to the harem.  He also knew that meant that she would be expected to provided sexual services to the king. So by "allowing" her to be turned over to the Egyptians, he was for all intents and purposes "allowing" them to violate her. That does not automatically mean that they did violate her, only that Abraham allowed for it to happen (in fact he was expecting it to happen). And they would have had God not intervened.

Basically he said, hey honey go take one for the team.

Who wrote this? You or FSSL? I don't remember reading this from him.

Abraham didn't know that Sarah would be taken by the King. He just suspected it was possible. He only asked that Sarah say she was his sister. Which, is really a half truth. I have said it was a lie but she was his half sister. Again. I am not saying it wasn't a lie. I was. This is the only thing that Abraham did.

Do you see where God confronted Abraham over his sin in this request? Just show me where God demands Abraham repent for his actions.

Abraham wasn't a pimp. Sarah wasn't a willing or unwilling accomplish to getting some "strange" from the King of Egypt.

They did the only thing they could under the circumstances. God intervened. In fact, It worked out perfectly.

What do you think would have happened if Abraham had told Pharaoh the truth?

 

[rsc2a]

What do you think would have happened if Abraham had told Pharaoh the truth?

God would have preserved him and Sarah. Why do you have so little faith?

 

[subllibrm]

What do you think would have happened if Abraham had told Pharaoh the truth?

God would have preserved him and Sarah. Why do you have so little faith?

There's my other sock. Whew, a complete pair!

Wait, what are we going to do with Timmeh?

 

[Smellin Coffee]

What do you think would have happened if Abraham had told Pharaoh the truth?

God would have preserved him and Sarah. Why do you have so little faith?

There's my other sock. Whew, a complete pair!

Wait, what are we going to do with Timmeh?

Where's Frag to make sure you guys match?

 

[rsc2a]

Recovering is also our sock. We can figure something out.

 

[subllibrm]

Lets back up. You accused me of twisting what your sock in using the word "pimp". Have you dropped that accusation or not?

You're wrong and you know you're wrong. You're the one that didn't read the entire post that I linked in the OP.

You sir are correct. I read the OP in the OP, not the entire string of pearls. I was in the fifth or so back/forth when the word pimp showed up in rcs2a's response to you.

 

[praise_yeshua]

What do you think would have happened if Abraham had told Pharaoh the truth?

God would have preserved him and Sarah. Why do you have so little faith?

Like God preserved those who confessed Christ in Oregon?

Why didn't God just stop the famine in Canaan?

Why didn't God cause the Pharaoh to approach Abraham as soon as he entered Egypt and give Abraham a standing ovation and shared half his kingdom with him?

God works within humanity.

 

[praise_yeshua]

What do you think would have happened if Abraham had told Pharaoh the truth?

God would have preserved him and Sarah. Why do you have so little faith?

There's my other sock. Whew, a complete pair!

Wait, what are we going to do with Timmeh?

Timmie is Timmie.....

 

[praise_yeshua]

What do you think would have happened if Abraham had told Pharaoh the truth?

God would have preserved him and Sarah. Why do you have so little faith?

There's my other sock. Whew, a complete pair!

Wait, what are we going to do with Timmeh?

Where's Frag to make sure you guys match?

Frag is busy.... fundamentaling....

 

[rsc2a]

What do you think would have happened if Abraham had told Pharaoh the truth?

God would have preserved him and Sarah. Why do you have so little faith?

Like God preserved those who confessed Christ in Oregon?

Why didn't God just stop the famine in Canaan?

Why didn't God cause the Pharaoh to approach Abraham as soon as he entered Egypt and give Abraham a standing ovation and shared half his kingdom with him?

God works within humanity.

I was unaware that God had promised any of those childless individuals offspring, you of little faith.

 

[Just John]

It was a common custom of that time to gift the family of a potential wife. Pharoah was bring nice to the family.

Was it common for God-fearing people to allow their wives to be sexually abused?

No matter how much you don't like the word "pimp," you have not offered any descriptive word for Abraham's actions. <enter the sugar coating>

Methinks PY has the understanding that for "pimp" & "whore" Abraham had to have a yellow suit and a cane and Sarah had to be wearing high heels and short shorts. Nuance is often lost on people like him.  BUT, he does a lot of surmising about Abraham that the Bible doesn't tell us. He could be right about those things or could just as easily be wrong.

I gave justification for what I wrote.

The Scriptures didn't say Abraham was a pimp and Sarah was a whore. Yet, you have taken this NUTS side. You've done it soley based on the fact you don't like me. I don't care if you like me. You're wasting your time not liking me. I don't base my theology on "friends". I base it on the Truth.

Uhhh, yeahhh, cuz I am soooooo concerned over what some paranoid poster on a website thinks of me. Yeahhhh.

You have a problem when you can't realize that everyone else is trying to tell you are misinterpreting (putting it nicely) something but your hubris won't allow you to see it,

You don't "piss me off."  I pity you.

PS. I do eat at restaurants on Sunday. I don't share the same conviction as the owners of Chick-fil-a but I respect and admire their willingness to "lose money" to follow them. 

 

[rsc2a]

My wife made an interesting observation.

Sarah wasn't above pimping out Abraham either.