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[Ransom]

No, living conditions such as poverty, abuse and lack of affordable healthcare.

You don't kill human beings for being poor or abused, and hence they do not justify Planned Parenthood's existence.

 

[Ransom]

The fact it took Southern Baptists as a denomination until June of 2017 to denounce white supremacy and the fact that doing so wasn't even a slam dunk PROVES racism is alive and well in Evangelicalism.

Or that it wasn't an issue requiring a statement until the alt-right became a political force, which is a very recent development.

 

[biscuit1953]

You continue to make excuse for and legitimize PP. No one "needs" PP.

Until CPCs fix their issues and actually help those they say they will, PP is still needed. It is unfortunate but a reality of life.

It is  "unfortunate but a reality of life" that Planned Parenthood targets the Black community for extermination of unborn children.  A minority pro-life student was told by a ?middle-aged white man (Smellin were you there recently?) who supports Planned Parenthood? when SFLA was protesting outside a Planned Parenthood fundraiser that abortion is good because the crime rate has lowered since the 60?s due to a reduction in black crime.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/22/planned-parenthood-supporter-says-abortion-reduces-black-crime/

It is  "unfortunate but a reality of life"  that Planned Parenthood employees have been caught accepting donations to specifically target black babies.

It is  "unfortunate but a reality of life" that their founder was a known eugenicist who said, ?We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,? Sanger wrote. ?Letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble on Dec., 10, 1939

It is  "unfortunate but a reality of life" that In the wake of the Charlottesville deadly protests, radical leftwing groups such as Black Lives Matter and Antifa are demanding that more Confederate monuments be torn down and that those to America?s Founding Fathers who owned slaves be altered or removed. Yet, these groups are in league with Planned Parenthood, who was founded by eugenicist Margaret Sanger.

It is  "unfortunate but a reality of life" that that Planned Parenthood hypocritically talks about the "appalling and horrifying attack on people of color"  at Charlottesville and from the other side of their mouths says, "Planned Parenthood stands with people of color (sic) and allies in face of such appalling attacks fueled by hate."

It is  "unfortunate but a reality of life" Sanger?s bust and other images are still celebrated in the Smithsonian Institution?s National Portrait Gallery (NPG), despite a call by a national group of black ministers to have them removed.

It is  "unfortunate but a reality of life" that none of the Black Lives Matter or Antifa protesters who have condemned the ?racist? Confederate or Founding Fathers monuments have never called for the removal of Sanger?s bust from the NPG.

It is  "unfortunate but a reality of life" that In the city where Planned Parenthood began, more black babies are aborted than born alive according to the New York Department of Health and Mental Hygiene.

It is  "unfortunate but a reality of life" that Smellin  and other self-proclaimed "liberals" find racism in every institution of American life, except in the one industry that kills for a living.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

No, living conditions such as poverty, abuse and lack of affordable healthcare.

You don't kill human beings for being poor or abused, and hence they do not justify Planned Parenthood's existence.

Abortion makes up only 3% of PP's services.

Until CPCs are able to handle the other 97% of PPs services, my position still stands.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

No, living conditions such as poverty, abuse and lack of affordable healthcare.

... a welfare system designed to give unwed mothers more money for each child they birth encouraging promiscuity.

Wait, I though you were FOR babies? So you are willing to let them starve or die of illness because of unaffordable healthcare?

Weird pro-life stance here...

 

[Ransom]

Abortion makes up only 3% of PP's services.

And, as has been pointed out, that is an intellectually dishonest abuse of statistics. A "service" is every "discrete clinical interaction" which puts something like a pregnancy test on equal footing with an abortion, regardless of abortions actually being a money-maker for them and pregnancy tests not.

My point stands. Poverty is not a justification for the homicide of the unborn.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Abortion makes up only 3% of PP's services.

And, as has been pointed out, that is an intellectually dishonest abuse of statistics. A "service" is every "discrete clinical interaction" which puts something like a pregnancy test on equal footing with an abortion, regardless of abortions actually being a money-maker for them and pregnancy tests not.

My point stands. Poverty is not a justification for the homicide of the unborn.

Nobody is suggesting it is.

Poverty is only one of the many circumstances that put women in a position where they feel the need it would be better to abort than to bring a child into that circumstance. Not justifying their position, just giving the facts.

Give them health, hope, empowerment, opportunity, safety, education, etc., you take away their needing abortion as a coping mechanism. Seeking an abortion (in the majority of cases) is nothing more than a symptom of a greater problem.

 

[Ransom]

Nobody is suggesting it is.

You did. You said women "feel the need" for Planned Parenthood because of poverty. In other words, they are justifying its existence.

 

[subllibrm]

If your REALLY want social justice against the ethnic cleansing of blacks, work to get rid of Margaret Sanger's organization and those who celebrate her. I did.

Or you could actually deal with the root causes that make women feel the need to access Sanger's organization.

The root cause of an over-sexualized society that no longer even blinks at fornication? That root cause? Nope, nobody even speaks about that.  :

 

[subllibrm]

Or you could actually deal with the root causes that make women feel the need to access Sanger's organization.

You mean promiscuity? But the leftards always whine that abstinence education doesn't work.

No, living conditions such as poverty, abuse and lack of affordable healthcare.

Poverty causes people to get it on? 

 

[subllibrm]

No, living conditions such as poverty, abuse and lack of affordable healthcare.

You don't kill human beings for being poor or abused, and hence they do not justify Planned Parenthood's existence.

Abortion makes up only 3% of PP's services.

Until CPCs are able to handle the other 97% of PPs services, my position still stands.

And white supremacists make up .00003% of Americans. Which is the bigger problem again?

 

[subllibrm]

No, living conditions such as poverty, abuse and lack of affordable healthcare.

... a welfare system designed to give unwed mothers more money for each child they birth encouraging promiscuity.

Wait, I though you were FOR babies? So you are willing to let them starve or die of illness because of unaffordable healthcare?

Weird pro-life stance here...

How about people keep their pants on until they are married and able to provide from themselves?

 

[subllibrm]

Abortion makes up only 3% of PP's services.

And, as has been pointed out, that is an intellectually dishonest abuse of statistics. A "service" is every "discrete clinical interaction" which puts something like a pregnancy test on equal footing with an abortion, regardless of abortions actually being a money-maker for them and pregnancy tests not.

My point stands. Poverty is not a justification for the homicide of the unborn.

Nobody is suggesting it is.

Poverty is only one of the many circumstances that put women in a position where they feel the need it would be better to abort than to bring a child into that circumstance. Not justifying their position, just giving the facts.

Give them health, hope, empowerment, opportunity, safety, education, etc., you take away their needing abortion as a coping mechanism. Seeking an abortion (in the majority of cases) is nothing more than a symptom of a greater problem.

I agree with the bolded. I would say that the greater problem is sin yet you seem to believe it is the fault of selfish white misers.

 

[FSSL]

Sublibbrm rocks!


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[HeDied4U]

No, living conditions such as poverty, abuse and lack of affordable healthcare.

... a welfare system designed to give unwed mothers more money for each child they birth encouraging promiscuity.

Wait, I though you were FOR babies? So you are willing to let them starve or die of illness because of unaffordable healthcare?

Weird pro-life stance here...

How about people keep their pants on until they are married and able to provide from themselves?

Well said!!

 

[FSSL]

Wait, I though you were FOR babies? So you are willing to let them starve or die of illness because of unaffordable healthcare?

Weird pro-life stance here...

See... your call to deal with "root causes" was really only a sham.

I have worked among enough inner city people to know that your twist of logic is a ruse.

No one suggests that we don't help the children. We argue against a system designed to promote promiscuity. So, why are you against dealing with the root causes?

 

[Smellin Coffee]

No, living conditions such as poverty, abuse and lack of affordable healthcare.

You don't kill human beings for being poor or abused, and hence they do not justify Planned Parenthood's existence.

Abortion makes up only 3% of PP's services.

Until CPCs are able to handle the other 97% of PPs services, my position still stands.

And white supremacists make up .00003% of Americans. Which is the bigger problem again?

You can't get any more spin away from the topic than that!

Please show me where you got that statistic.

So answer the question. Can CPCs RIGHT NOW handle the 97% of the medical services that PP provides?

 

[Smellin Coffee]

No, living conditions such as poverty, abuse and lack of affordable healthcare.

... a welfare system designed to give unwed mothers more money for each child they birth encouraging promiscuity.

Wait, I though you were FOR babies? So you are willing to let them starve or die of illness because of unaffordable healthcare?

Weird pro-life stance here...

How about people keep their pants on until they are married and able to provide from themselves?

In other words, the non-religious must take on your (and my) religious conviction concerning monogamy in order to prevent poverty and give poor people INCLUDING BABIES healthcare without bankrupting them.

Until they conform to OUR moral code, we just won't care for them.

Again, how is that being pro-life?

 

[FSSL]

It appears that women can and are being well taken care of without Planned Parenthood.

I don't think you are being honest about your dislike of abortion.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Wait, I though you were FOR babies? So you are willing to let them starve or die of illness because of unaffordable healthcare?

Weird pro-life stance here...

See... your call to deal with "root causes" was really only a sham.

I have worked among enough inner city people to know that your twist of logic is a ruse.

No one suggests that we don't help the children. We argue against a system designed to promote promiscuity. So, why are you against dealing with the root causes?

Why do most poor people practice promiscuity? Why are the poor being falsely arrested?

New York City alone in which the judge found almost a million unjustified cases:

The city agreed to pay $75 million Monday to settle a class action lawsuit charging that hundreds of thousands of summonses were issued by the NYPD without proper legal justification to fill a quota.

The settlement means that people who received over 900,000 summonses later tossed by a judge will be eligible for payments capped at $150 per incident.

Source

That is almost a million innocent people, the majority poor, who have to deal with all the stigma and financial stress that comes with being arrested falsely. AND THAT IS JUST WHAT WAS ADMITTED TO.

So when you have daddies and mommies in jail for crimes they didn't commit, having to confess to crimes they didn't commit or continue in jail (research the Kalief Browden story) because of their poverty and refusal to admit guilt when they were innocent, its no wonder the family unit of the poor gets torn apart. Guess what happens? Promiscuity. Not condoning it, just saying...