Church of Christ hatred for Baptists.

[ALAYMAN]

Got to church tonight to find a flyer taped to the doors.  As I approached, and before I could tell what the 8.5 X 11 flyer said, I guessed it was going to be a Church of Christ propaganda advertisement.  I was right.  This one wasn't too bad actually.  Our nearby neighbors are CoC (waterdogs ), and it was from them, advertising some upcoming community service event they were hosting.  Pretty innocuous all in all, but they of course didn't ask permission to advertise their church event on our doors.  Church of Christ folk are the worst at putting stuff on our doors, and it ain't always the ones that are next to us.  Sometimes its CoC folk from across the river in Kentucky (their state of origin). This reminded me of FSSL's complaint about leaving tracts on windshields and such.  Different things annoy different people in different ways.  I don't like the windshield propaganda (from any source) but ultimately I don't get too bent out of shape by it, but when other churches bring their leaflets and such onto our property without permission it gripes my granny, especially Church of Christers.  They only spew their vitriol about Catholics more than they do Baptists, and it's a close race for first place.  We've removed many of their flyers which attempt to proselytize our people.  They often have a bitter tone, championing water baptism to wash away sins.  Innocent newly converted sheep might be derailed by such dung, and I loather their efforts.  My pastor said at one church he was at long ago had a Jehovah's Witness sneak into the service unannounced and in the middle of the service he began speaking out loud against the doctrines of Baptists.  Of course he was quickly removed.

Do you have such trespassing occur at your church?  Unwanted propaganda from cultic religious groups?  Ever consider any sort of legal action?

 

[JrChurch]

Interesting.  Has anyone returned a flyer to the C of C and requested no further postings on your church property? 

Because of the location of our church (on a busy highway as well as at an interstate exit) we have had some loonies enter our building  with the intent of disrupting services.  We now have men assigned to the lobby.  And men around here know how to keep the peace.

 

[freelance_christian]

Do you have such trespassing occur at your church?  Unwanted propaganda from cultic religious groups?  Ever consider any sort of legal action?

Yes. We had to run off a couple of ifbx kjvo nuts a few years back. And I'm not being facetious.

 

[Boomer]

Do you have such trespassing occur at your church?  Unwanted propaganda from cultic religious groups?  Ever consider any sort of legal action?

Yes. One Sunday between Sunday School and the main service, I noticed a man in our parking lot placing flyers under the wipers of all the cars. He was from a non-denom, Charismatic type church. I kindly asked him to remove all the flyers, which he did without much incident.

Afterward, I started to wonder why the guy wasn't in church at the time (10:00 am).

 

[rsc2a]

Got to church tonight to find a flyer taped to the doors.  As I approached, and before I could tell what the 8.5 X 11 flyer said, I guessed it was going to be a Church of Christ propaganda advertisement.  I was right.  This one wasn't too bad actually.  Our nearby neighbors are CoC (waterdogs ), and it was from them, advertising some upcoming community service event they were hosting.  Pretty innocuous all in all, but they of course didn't ask permission to advertise their church event on our doors.  Church of Christ folk are the worst at putting stuff on our doors, and it ain't always the ones that are next to us.  Sometimes its CoC folk from across the river in Kentucky (their state of origin). This reminded me of FSSL's complaint about leaving tracts on windshields and such.  Different things annoy different people in different ways.  I don't like the windshield propaganda (from any source) but ultimately I don't get too bent out of shape by it, but when other churches bring their leaflets and such onto our property without permission it gripes my granny, especially Church of Christers.  They only spew their vitriol about Catholics more than they do Baptists, and it's a close race for first place.  We've removed many of their flyers which attempt to proselytize our people.  They often have a bitter tone, championing water baptism to wash away sins.  Innocent newly converted sheep might be derailed by such dung, and I loather their efforts.  My pastor said at one church he was at long ago had a Jehovah's Witness sneak into the service unannounced and in the middle of the service he began speaking out loud against the doctrines of Baptists.  Of course he was quickly removed.

Do you have such trespassing occur at your church?  Unwanted propaganda from cultic religious groups?  Ever consider any sort of legal action?

Hmm....

I remember you railing against a "do not knock" registry. What did you say...let me check. Oh yeah!

I think it's incompatible with Christian servitude and evangelism that we subjegate a perfectly Biblical model of evangelism simply because we don't care to be bothered by people interrupting our dinner. - Alayman

Oh!

 

[sword]

Regarding A "Do Not Knock Registry".

If I recall the U.S. Supreme Court  setteled this once in 2002.

U.S. Supreme Court (Watchtower Society v. Village of Stratton — 536 U.S. 150 (2002)). The Court ruled in favor of Jehovah's Witnesses, holding that making it a misdemeanor (to engage in door-to-door advocacy without first registering with the mayor and receiving a permit) violates the first Amendment.

 

[sword]

When soul winning if I encounter a “Do not Solicit” I do not knock on the door, but always leave a tract.  I try to honor the resident’s wishes to not be disturbed.

What do you all do?

 

[ALAYMAN]

Interesting.  Has anyone returned a flyer to the C of C and requested no further postings on your church property?

No, we haven't, and that's not a bad thought.  From my dealings with the militant CoCers I doubt it would do much good, but, it may be worth a try.

Yes. We had to run off a couple of ifbx kjvo nuts a few years back. And I'm not being facetious.

What were they doing?

When soul winning if I encounter a “Do not Solicit” I do not knock on the door, but always leave a tract.  I try to honor the resident’s wishes to not be disturbed.

What do you all do?

I likewise honor whatever the homeowner's wishes are.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Got to church tonight to find a flyer taped to the doors.  As I approached, and before I could tell what the 8.5 X 11 flyer said, I guessed it was going to be a Church of Christ propaganda advertisement.  I was right.  This one wasn't too bad actually.  Our nearby neighbors are CoC (waterdogs ), and it was from them, advertising some upcoming community service event they were hosting.  Pretty innocuous all in all, but they of course didn't ask permission to advertise their church event on our doors.  Church of Christ folk are the worst at putting stuff on our doors, and it ain't always the ones that are next to us.  Sometimes its CoC folk from across the river in Kentucky (their state of origin). This reminded me of FSSL's complaint about leaving tracts on windshields and such.  Different things annoy different people in different ways.  I don't like the windshield propaganda (from any source) but ultimately I don't get too bent out of shape by it, but when other churches bring their leaflets and such onto our property without permission it gripes my granny, especially Church of Christers.  They only spew their vitriol about Catholics more than they do Baptists, and it's a close race for first place.  We've removed many of their flyers which attempt to proselytize our people.  They often have a bitter tone, championing water baptism to wash away sins.  Innocent newly converted sheep might be derailed by such dung, and I loather their efforts.  My pastor said at one church he was at long ago had a Jehovah's Witness sneak into the service unannounced and in the middle of the service he began speaking out loud against the doctrines of Baptists.  Of course he was quickly removed.

Do you have such trespassing occur at your church?  Unwanted propaganda from cultic religious groups?  Ever consider any sort of legal action?

Hmm....

I remember you railing against a "do not knock" registry. What did you say...let me check. Oh yeah!

I think it's incompatible with Christian servitude and evangelism that we subjegate a perfectly Biblical model of evangelism simply because we don't care to be bothered by people interrupting our dinner. - Alayman

Oh!

It wasn't the door of his residence...but the door of his church building.
Einstein!

 

[rsc2a]

Got to church tonight to find a flyer taped to the doors.  As I approached, and before I could tell what the 8.5 X 11 flyer said, I guessed it was going to be a Church of Christ propaganda advertisement.  I was right.  This one wasn't too bad actually.  Our nearby neighbors are CoC (waterdogs ), and it was from them, advertising some upcoming community service event they were hosting.  Pretty innocuous all in all, but they of course didn't ask permission to advertise their church event on our doors.  Church of Christ folk are the worst at putting stuff on our doors, and it ain't always the ones that are next to us.  Sometimes its CoC folk from across the river in Kentucky (their state of origin). This reminded me of FSSL's complaint about leaving tracts on windshields and such.  Different things annoy different people in different ways.  I don't like the windshield propaganda (from any source) but ultimately I don't get too bent out of shape by it, but when other churches bring their leaflets and such onto our property without permission it gripes my granny, especially Church of Christers.  They only spew their vitriol about Catholics more than they do Baptists, and it's a close race for first place.  We've removed many of their flyers which attempt to proselytize our people.  They often have a bitter tone, championing water baptism to wash away sins.  Innocent newly converted sheep might be derailed by such dung, and I loather their efforts.  My pastor said at one church he was at long ago had a Jehovah's Witness sneak into the service unannounced and in the middle of the service he began speaking out loud against the doctrines of Baptists.  Of course he was quickly removed.

Do you have such trespassing occur at your church?  Unwanted propaganda from cultic religious groups?  Ever consider any sort of legal action?

Hmm....

I remember you railing against a "do not knock" registry. What did you say...let me check. Oh yeah!

I think it's incompatible with Christian servitude and evangelism that we subjegate a perfectly Biblical model of evangelism simply because we don't care to be bothered by people interrupting our dinner. - Alayman

Oh!

It wasn't the door of his residence...but the door of his church building.
Einstein!

People should not expect more privacy in a church building than in their own homes?

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Got to church tonight to find a flyer taped to the doors.  As I approached, and before I could tell what the 8.5 X 11 flyer said, I guessed it was going to be a Church of Christ propaganda advertisement.  I was right.  This one wasn't too bad actually.  Our nearby neighbors are CoC (waterdogs ), and it was from them, advertising some upcoming community service event they were hosting.  Pretty innocuous all in all, but they of course didn't ask permission to advertise their church event on our doors.  Church of Christ folk are the worst at putting stuff on our doors, and it ain't always the ones that are next to us.  Sometimes its CoC folk from across the river in Kentucky (their state of origin). This reminded me of FSSL's complaint about leaving tracts on windshields and such.  Different things annoy different people in different ways.  I don't like the windshield propaganda (from any source) but ultimately I don't get too bent out of shape by it, but when other churches bring their leaflets and such onto our property without permission it gripes my granny, especially Church of Christers.  They only spew their vitriol about Catholics more than they do Baptists, and it's a close race for first place.  We've removed many of their flyers which attempt to proselytize our people.  They often have a bitter tone, championing water baptism to wash away sins.  Innocent newly converted sheep might be derailed by such dung, and I loather their efforts.  My pastor said at one church he was at long ago had a Jehovah's Witness sneak into the service unannounced and in the middle of the service he began speaking out loud against the doctrines of Baptists.  Of course he was quickly removed.

Do you have such trespassing occur at your church?  Unwanted propaganda from cultic religious groups?  Ever consider any sort of legal action?

Hmm....

I remember you railing against a "do not knock" registry. What did you say...let me check. Oh yeah!

I think it's incompatible with Christian servitude and evangelism that we subjegate a perfectly Biblical model of evangelism simply because we don't care to be bothered by people interrupting our dinner. - Alayman

Oh!

It wasn't the door of his residence...but the door of his church building.
Einstein!

People should not expect more privacy in a church building than in their own homes?

That's not the point....but you already know that.

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=rsc2a]People should not expect more privacy in a church building than in their own homes?

That's not the point....but you already know that.[/quote]

That is the point...why do you think people don't want folks knocking on their doors?

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

[quote author=rsc2a]People should not expect more privacy in a church building than in their own homes?

That's not the point....but you already know that.

That is the point...why do you think people don't want folks knocking on their doors?
[/quote]

I don't know why some people don't want other people knocking on their doors, can only speak for myself.

But I CAN guess why a church wouldn't want a cult posting literature on the church doors or on windshields in the parking lot.

Apples....oranges!

Do you let the JW's, Mormons or C of C post their lit on cars in your church parking lot!

 

[ALAYMAN]

That is the point...why do you think people don't want folks knocking on their doors?

I don't proselytize at people's doors, unless they're Church of Christ of course.

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=rsc2a]People should not expect more privacy in a church building than in their own homes?

That's not the point....but you already know that.

That is the point...why do you think people don't want folks knocking on their doors?

I don't know why some people don't want other people knocking on their doors, can only speak for myself.

But I CAN guess why a church wouldn't want a cult posting literature on the church doors or on windshields in the parking lot.

Apples....oranges!

Do you let the JW's, Mormons or C of C post their lit on cars in your church parking lot![/quote]

No...but Alayman was opposed to a registry where people would specifically express their desire to be left alone. If individuals don't have this freedom, why should a church? Or does this only apply to people you agree with?

 

[ALAYMAN]

No...but Alayman was opposed to a registry where people would specifically express their desire to be left alone. If individuals don't have this freedom, why should a church? Or does this only apply to people you agree with?

Two things, because you regularly distort context.

1) I was protesting the evangelicals on here and in America who so readily would like to suppress the free flow of the gospel.

2) People already have a means to stop folks from coming onto their property, either with a sign, or a nice big doggy.

 

[rsc2a]

No...but Alayman was opposed to a registry where people would specifically express their desire to be left alone. If individuals don't have this freedom, why should a church? Or does this only apply to people you agree with?

Two things, because you regularly distort context.

1) I was protesting the evangelicals on here and in America who so readily would like to suppress the free flow of the gospel.

2) People already have a means to stop folks from coming onto their property, either with a sign, or a nice big doggy.

1 - No...you were protesting the proposed law which then morphed into a combination of your "defense" that relied upon your horrible "exegesis" about early church practices and accusing people who supported the law of hating Jesus (well...not quite that far...)

2 - You already have a means of stopping people from showing up at your church, either with a sign or a nice big doggy.

 

[ALAYMAN]

]1 - No...you were protesting the proposed law which then morphed into a combination of your "defense" that relied upon your horrible "exegesis" about early church practices and accusing people who supported the law of hating Jesus (well...not quite that far...)

As usual, you are wrong, but elect to make crap up, so go on doing what you do best.

2 - You already have a means of stopping people from showing up at your church, either with a sign or a nice big doggy.

Do you know what proselytizing is?

 

[rsc2a]

]1 - No...you were protesting the proposed law which then morphed into a combination of your "defense" that relied upon your horrible "exegesis" about early church practices and accusing people who supported the law of hating Jesus (well...not quite that far...)

As usual, you are wrong, but elect to make crap up, so go on doing what you do best.

I see no reason to discuss this further. Everyone is free to read the thread and see who is being truthful. I will leave this little gem:

I can understand Christ-denying religionists, and certainly see why pagans would attempt to block the free-flow of the gospel, but it thoroughly boggles my mind that Bible believing Christians would be those who attempt to place hindrances on the dissemination of the gospel, particularly in the name of furthering their own personal ease.  Absolutely mind-numbing. - Alayman

[quote author=ALAYMAN]

2 - You already have a means of stopping people from showing up at your church, either with a sign or a nice big doggy.

Do you know what proselytizing is?[/quote]

Yes. Do you know what double standard is?

 

[ALAYMAN]

I see no reason to discuss this further. Everyone is free to read the thread and see who is being truthful. I will leave this little gem:

I can understand Christ-denying religionists, and certainly see why pagans would attempt to block the free-flow of the gospel, but it thoroughly boggles my mind that Bible believing Christians would be those who attempt to place hindrances on the dissemination of the gospel, particularly in the name of furthering their own personal ease.  Absolutely mind-numbing. - Alayman

This is EXACTLY what I just told you I said in my last post.  "It boggles my mind  that evangelical would attempt to place hindrances on the dissemination of the gospel" is absolutely identical to "I was protesting the evangelicals on here and in America who so readily would like to suppress the free flow of the gospel".  The fact that you would dig that out and post it as evidence supporting whatever inane claim you're making slams the gavel on you and your inability to avoid ultimate and gargantuan obtuseness.

Yes. Do you know what double standard is?

I take it you don't understand the difference between a person engaging in their constitutional right (and God commanded imperative) and somebody proselytizing.  I also take that to mean that you wouldn't mind if I came to your property and began posting flyers advertising, well, whatever the flip I wanted to advertize.  8)