Christians who defend the indefensible!

[Tarheel Baptist]

You really didn't give us enough detail and context to know who was closer to being right. 

I would agree that there's nothing wrong with nudity itself, which is what the person may have meant by saying skin cells aren't evil.  The question is, is a particular instance of nudity art?  Is it your wife/husband in the privacy of your own bedroom?  Is it porn?  The context makes a difference. 

In fact, everything that he took offense to (swearing, nudity, alcohol, music) is highly dependent on context.

You should apply that principle to your hermeneutics.....

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Would you like me to pull down that definition as well?

Deflection - the action of making something move in a different direction...

 

[Izdaari]

This is the exact quote some Freebirds took exception to:

Just a simple announcement: If your fb page regularly contains swear words, near-nude pictures, and celebrates alcohol, rock music, etc. then don't be shocked when I won't accept your friend request.

...and if you accuse me of preaching at you, please remember my chosen vocation in life.

Ephesians 5.1

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

This is the exact quote some Freebirds took exception to:

Just a simple announcement: If your fb page regularly contains swear words, near-nude pictures, and celebrates alcohol, rock music, etc. then don't be shocked when I won't accept your friend request.

...and if you accuse me of preaching at you, please remember my chosen vocation in life.

Ephesians 5.1

 

[rsc2a]

You do realize when you use the word "disingenuous" to modify the word "Christian" (as an individual), you aren't speaking about actions or attitudes but individuals, right?

 

[Izdaari]

And I think he would be OK with that.....

As would I. To each his own, said the farmer as he kissed the cow.  :-*

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

I have 'defriended' some people on FB because of their innane and sometimes profane posts.
Didn't make it public or make a big deal of it....just did it!


Isn't that my prerogative?

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

You do realize when you use the word "disingenuous" to modify the word "Christian" (as an individual), you aren't speaking about actions or attitudes but individuals, right?

My exact quote:
And, I agree with the gist of your post.

While I might not agree 100% with the philosophy and standards of the FB poster, I defend his right to have such a standard....and the rights of those who might oppose him.
But, for a Christian to defend the posting of swear words, nudity, etc. seems somewhat disingenuious to me.

With the uber-freebirds, it seems that the only sin one can identify is actually identifying a sin......

Context.....context....context.
You're being disingenuious in your incomprehension....or you're stupid!

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

And I think he would be OK with that.....

As would I. To each his own, said the farmer as he kissed the cow.  :-*

Point taken.
And that's the attitude my friend had on FB....but some took exception to his attitude and actions!

 

[Izdaari]

I have 'defriended' some people on FB because of their innane and sometimes profane posts.
Didn't make it public or make a big deal of it....just did it!


Isn't that my prerogative?

It certainly is. That's how I do it too if I feel it's necessary.

 

[rsc2a]

You do realize when you use the word "disingenuous" to modify the word "Christian" (as an individual), you aren't speaking about actions or attitudes but individuals, right?

Context.....context....context.
You're being disingenuious in your incomprehension....or you're stupid!

Yes. The context is important. That's why I pay attention to what words are being modified by what adjectives/adverbs. Maybe you should be more careful in how you write. 

...given that...

[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]While I might not agree 100% with the philosophy and standards of the FB poster, I defend his right to have such a standard....and the rights of those who might oppose him.
But, for a Christian to defend the posting of swear words, nudity, etc. seems somewhat disingenuious to me.

With the uber-freebirds, it seems that the only sin one can identify is actually identifying a sin......[/quote]

So basically you will defend the rights of Christians to have different standards than you but you'll question whether a Christian who has different standards than you is as self-righteous as you are?

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

You do realize when you use the word "disingenuous" to modify the word "Christian" (as an individual), you aren't speaking about actions or attitudes but individuals, right?

Context.....context....context.
You're being disingenuious in your incomprehension....or you're stupid!

Yes. The context is important. That's why I pay attention to what words are being modified by what adjectives/adverbs. Maybe you should be more careful in how you write. 

...given that...

[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]While I might not agree 100% with the philosophy and standards of the FB poster, I defend his right to have such a standard....and the rights of those who might oppose him.
But, for a Christian to defend the posting of swear words, nudity, etc. seems somewhat disingenuious to me.

With the uber-freebirds, it seems that the only sin one can identify is actually identifying a sin......

So basically you will defend the rights of Christians to have different standards than you but you'll question whether a Christian who has different standards than you is as self-righteous as you are?
[/quote]


Perhaps a remedial grammar course would be profitable as well.
You don't need a remedial course in deflection.....but that's about it!

You're disingenuious.......as are Christians who defend sin....which was what the OP was about!

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]Perhaps a remedial grammar course would be profitable as well.
You don't need a remedial course in deflection.....but that's about it!

You're disingenuious.......as are Christians who defend sin....which was what the OP was about![/quote]

Again....the word "disingenuious" as you used it is modifying "Christian". Grammatically, you are questioning one's salvific condition, not whether they are behaving in a Christ-like manner.

It's also amusing that you didn't actually name any sins in the OP. You named one thing that could lead to sin, but no actual sins. Your expanded thought, likewise, did not name any actual sins. In certain contexts, the things you mentioned may be sin, but as blanket statements, they are not.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]Perhaps a remedial grammar course would be profitable as well.
You don't need a remedial course in deflection.....but that's about it!

You're disingenuious.......as are Christians who defend sin....which was what the OP was about!

Again....the word "disingenuious" as you used it is modifying "Christian". Grammatically, you are questioning one's salvific condition, not whether they are behaving in a Christ-like manner.

It's also amusing that you didn't actually name any sins in the OP. You named one thing that could lead to sin, but no actual sins. Your expanded thought, likewise, did not name any actual sins. In certain contexts, the things you mentioned may be sin, but as blanket statements, they are not.
[/quote]

If an African American is disingenuious in condemning racism, would he cease to be an African American?
If a dog is disingenuious in his barking, would he cease to be a dog?
If I'm disingenuious in complementing my wife, do I cease to be her husband?

Are you disingenuious or stupid.....the truth?

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

In what context would profanity be noble?

 

[Agent P]

This is the exact quote some Freebirds took exception to:

Just a simple announcement: If your fb page regularly contains swear words, near-nude pictures, and celebrates alcohol, rock music, etc. then don't be shocked when I won't accept your friend request.

...and if you accuse me of preaching at you, please remember my chosen vocation in life.

Ephesians 5.1

 

[rsc2a]

In what context would profanity be noble?

First: "Ignoble" does not necessarily mean "sinful".

Second:

Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ

Luckily for you, the ESV translators have softened the language so as not to offend people.

 

[Ransom]

Just a simple announcement: If your fb page regularly contains swear words, near-nude pictures, and celebrates alcohol, rock music, etc. then don't be shocked when I won't accept your friend request.

Hm. Doesn't sound very friendly to me.

As the man said, it's gotta be rock 'n' roll music if you wanna dance with me. Which he wouldn't. Cuz that would be bad too, probly.

 

[OZZY]

Many Freebird Christians often put themselves in a position to defend the indefensible!
I find it humorous that on Facebook many of them are having conniptions over the Chick FIL A argument.....they had rather defend the liberal attacks on CFL than agree with so called legalists!

The same thing happens here....some actually defend evolution, homosexuality etc rather than be on the same side of an issue with the fundys!

I don't understand this illogic.....

It is called humanistic Christianty  which is what most free birds practice 

 

[OZZY]

It's funny how the Free-Birds who carry on about their "liberty" are the ones who are first to get their knickers in a knot when someone expresses a view they don't like.

sorta like how the sodimites are reacting  to Chick-Fil-A's stance on marriage