Another one

[Walt]

I can only quote others: Horrible stories; such pastors are surely cursed.

This is the logical conclusion of Hyles "Cover it up for the sake of the ministry" disaster.

The cover up becomes the main issue and the main issue is forced into the background.

Now, instead of the church standing by the victims the church leadership including the pastor are in jeopardy of prosecution for the cover up!

I have only ever seen it done properly once. Here in San Diego it was discovered that a pastor was molesting little girls. The deacons and other pastoral staff met to discuss how this was to be handled. After a couple hours of various methods of cover up were discussed, one of the staff members reached over and picked up the phone and dialed 911 and told the dispatcher what had happened. The pastor went to prison. The staff member was ostracized by the deacons and other staff and he and his family eventually left the church. But at least he did the right thing. When the very first allegation was made the police should have been notified and they should have conducted the investigation without interference and with total cooperation from the church and staff members.

Interesting.  it should never be covered up -- but can you imagine if the accusations were false?

 

[16KJV11]

I can only quote others: Horrible stories; such pastors are surely cursed.

This is the logical conclusion of Hyles "Cover it up for the sake of the ministry" disaster.

The cover up becomes the main issue and the main issue is forced into the background.

Now, instead of the church standing by the victims the church leadership including the pastor are in jeopardy of prosecution for the cover up!

I have only ever seen it done properly once. Here in San Diego it was discovered that a pastor was molesting little girls. The deacons and other pastoral staff met to discuss how this was to be handled. After a couple hours of various methods of cover up were discussed, one of the staff members reached over and picked up the phone and dialed 911 and told the dispatcher what had happened. The pastor went to prison. The staff member was ostracized by the deacons and other staff and he and his family eventually left the church. But at least he did the right thing. When the very first allegation was made the police should have been notified and they should have conducted the investigation without interference and with total cooperation from the church and staff members.

What church was this?
You can PM me if you don't want to mention it in public.

Ever heard of Google?

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/courts/sd-me-pastor-sentenced-20180410-story.html

Well, he didn't mention a name so I had little to go on Mr. Gooooglemeister

 

[Twisted]

I can only quote others: Horrible stories; such pastors are surely cursed.

This is the logical conclusion of Hyles "Cover it up for the sake of the ministry" disaster.

The cover up becomes the main issue and the main issue is forced into the background.

Now, instead of the church standing by the victims the church leadership including the pastor are in jeopardy of prosecution for the cover up!

I have only ever seen it done properly once. Here in San Diego it was discovered that a pastor was molesting little girls. The deacons and other pastoral staff met to discuss how this was to be handled. After a couple hours of various methods of cover up were discussed, one of the staff members reached over and picked up the phone and dialed 911 and told the dispatcher what had happened. The pastor went to prison. The staff member was ostracized by the deacons and other staff and he and his family eventually left the church. But at least he did the right thing. When the very first allegation was made the police should have been notified and they should have conducted the investigation without interference and with total cooperation from the church and staff members.

What church was this?
You can PM me if you don't want to mention it in public.

Ever heard of Google?

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/courts/sd-me-pastor-sentenced-20180410-story.html

Well, he didn't mention a name so I had little to go on Mr. Gooooglemeister

It's not good to confess your shortcomings.

 

[Thomas Cassidy]

Interesting.  it should never be covered up -- but can you imagine if the accusations were false?

Then the police investigation would have shown them to be false.

 

[Thomas Cassidy]

Ever heard of Google?

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/courts/sd-me-pastor-sentenced-20180410-story.html

Not the incident or church I am referring to.

 

[Twisted]

Ever heard of Google?

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/courts/sd-me-pastor-sentenced-20180410-story.html

Not the incident or church I am referring to.

LOL!  I was wondering if this was the one or was it another.  Actually, it's not funny, but tragic.

So tell us which one or at least the time frame.

 

[Twisted]

Ever heard of Google?

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/courts/sd-me-pastor-sentenced-20180410-story.html

Not the incident or church I am referring to.

This one?  No....not San Diego.

https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Fernando-Maldonado-martinez-pastor-molesting-girl-12806519.php

 

[Twisted]

Ever heard of Google?

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/courts/sd-me-pastor-sentenced-20180410-story.html

Not the incident or church I am referring to.

This one?

No....still not San Diego.

https://www.ocregister.com/2011/04/15/pastor-jailed-for-molesting-girl-14/

 

[Twisted]

Ever heard of Google?

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/courts/sd-me-pastor-sentenced-20180410-story.html

Not the incident or church I am referring to.

This one?

https://www.10news.com/news/pastor-admits-to-molesting-boys

 

[Twisted]

Ever heard of Google?

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/courts/sd-me-pastor-sentenced-20180410-story.html

Not the incident or church I am referring to.

This one?

http://www.cbs8.com/story/15938456/pastor-arrested-for-alleged-sex-acts-with-preteen-girl

 

[Twisted]

Ever heard of Google?

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/courts/sd-me-pastor-sentenced-20180410-story.html

Not the incident or church I am referring to.

This one?

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-05-04/local/me-2217_1_molesting-underage-girl-south-bay-pentecostal-church

 

[Twisted]

Ever heard of Google?

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/courts/sd-me-pastor-sentenced-20180410-story.html

Not the incident or church I am referring to.

This one?  If not, I give up.  Too many to list.

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/former-youth-pastor-admits-to-molesting-2-girls-at-lancaster-church/

 

[16KJV11]

Ever heard of Google?

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/courts/sd-me-pastor-sentenced-20180410-story.html

Not the incident or church I am referring to.

This one?  If not, I give up.  Too many to list.

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/09/12/former-youth-pastor-admits-to-molesting-2-girls-at-lancaster-church/

None of your examples count, they aren't IFB Hylesites.  :
And everybody knows the only pervs and cult followers that exist are only Hylesite IFBS.

 

[Thomas Cassidy]

None of your examples count, they aren't IFB Hylesites.  :
And everybody knows the only pervs and cult followers that exist are only Hylesite IFBS.

"Everybody is doing it" is not an affirmative defense for Child Molestation. In case you missed it this thread is in the "Hyles Anderson" forum. Last time I checked Hyles Anderson was both IFB and Hylesite.

 

[Walt]

Interesting.  it should never be covered up -- but can you imagine if the accusations were false?

Then the police investigation would have shown them to be false.

I'd certainly hope so... what happens if it just comes down to one adult's word against one child's word?

 

[TheRealJonStewart]

Bruce Goddard's comment on Josh Teis' blog:

"11 years there. Hmmm. 22 years ago when I was on my 11th anniversary I was still reading the books of older wiser men. In fact I?m still reading the books of older wiser men. I don?t know much but It?s worked for 33 years, guess I?ll keep it up. But God bless you, you?ve made it past the decade mark. That?s good. Keep loving the Lord & your wife. Regarding the old independent Baptists though, The 37 young people in Bible college right now from our youth department sure enjoy their old fashioned pastor. The 150 teens who were here Sunday still let me run their camps, preach on soul winning, separation, Bible memory. We all kind of like what?s going on with the old independent Baptist. But that?s what independent is, we all get to chose. but as the old saying goes, if it ain?t broke? For these 33 years it?s worked pretty good."

http://joshteis.com/2015/12/01/the-new-independent-baptist/#comment-82795

Hey Bruce, how are those 150 teens now? I guess 3 of them were raped?