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voicecrying said:
I did look at a couple of states and did not see that even if 100% of the Libertarian party votes went to Trump that the outcome would have changed. Were there any states where this was true?
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a few days after they said all votes were counted and the election was officially over, i looked at the statistics in pennsylvania .. georgia.... ... and i think 3 other states.... i would have to see what i was looking at then, but at that time the libertarian votes exceeded the number by which the democrats were shown to have beaten trump by.... ...unless they kept adding votes to the total even after that... ...which they very well could have..... this was an election where no rules applied unless they were applied against republicans........the numbers of libertarian votes above the democrats margin wasn;t much.... but it was enough according to what i saw... .. and i was too iritated to go back and look at it again... .... .but maybe i should have.... i could be wrong and could have gotten mad at poor old jo jorgensen for nothing..... .... (wouldn;t be the first time i did something like that)...:(.. ... but i had to direct all that anger over trumps loss at something and i was right on principle .;).... ..
........ but seriously i did see it at that time.... .and was kinda confused as to why no one among the republicans brought it up...... maybe that was why.. :confused:

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ok..... i looked up one of the old news reports from fox....... what i remembered was pennsylvania and georgia.... which could have changed as the post office brought in more biden only ballots...... but the numbers at the time of the fox news report showed libertarian votes outnumbering dems winning margin in nevada... wisconsin and also michigan.......... here is the report on it....

www.foxnews.com

Did Biden get an edge from Libertarian vote in critical swing states?

As Americans awaited the final ballot results and Joe Biden held a slim lead over President Trump on Wednesday night, some analysts were zeroing in on the Libertarian vote in critical states as a potential help to the Democratic nominee.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
 
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Strom said:
I don’t know much about the guy, but a quick Google search reveals he’s married to a Jewish woman, so anyway….Also, I’ve never advocated anti-Semitic beliefs.
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there are some neo-nazis and true white supremacist groups out there who claim he is not one of them.... they say he is a leftist trojan horse and false flag doing all his racist stuff and kookery on the radio as a way to give all conservatives a bad name..... as if they are not doing that well enough on their own....... so who knows..... it could be true.... ....stranger things have happened........ ..
 
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Strom said:
I don’t know much about the guy, but a quick Google search reveals he’s married to a Jewish woman, so anyway….Also, I’ve never advocated anti-Semitic beliefs.
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And the first time I ever encountered the Stormfront Web site, the white supremacists on their forums liked posting links to Asian porn. What's your point?
 
Strom said:
I appreciate the life experience you bring to the table, but look how far the pendulum has swung since the Ross Perot days. Most young people today think being being transgender is perfectly normal. Gay marriage - not even a blink. White people - born evil. For goodness sake, Bill Clinton would be a moderate Republican today!
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I have a teenage son in the public school system, so you're preachin' to the choir. I literally just told him almost verbatim the same thing yesterday about Bill Clinton. That was in an effort to get him to see the sliding scale of morality as measured by the subjective nature of man, as opposed to an objective and transcendent Biblical worldview of theological/political issues. As far as the world going to hell in a handbasket, and American politics with it, as Christians we are to be about the primary business of the King, and that ain't Donald Trump or a re-incarnated Ayn Rand. That doesn't mean political affairs are unimportant. The Apostle Paul claimed his Roman citizenship as a means to arbitrate his own situation (though failed as it was). But it does mean that more emphasis ought to be given to changing the eternal nature of souls, and not as much about rearranging chairs on a sinking ship.
 
Strom said:
In your honest opinion, do you ever see the pendulum swinging back? Do you actually believe there will be a revival in this country that will result in the politics and morality of this country going back into a 1950s mindset? I do not. I think it’s a matter of maintenance at this point. Things have gone too far. Your example of a sliding morality scale is on point.
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pendulums always swing back.... it;s what they do....otherwise they are not pendulums.... just sad looking plumb bobs..... ..... ....but why do you want to see this particular pendulum swing back to the 1950s?.... ....why not to the 1890s?.....the victorian age.... . don;t you think a few people sick of elvis.. chuck berry... and everything else they saw wrong with the '50s wished that could happen?....
 
Strom said:
One has nothing to do with the other. He’s not anti-semetic, he’s just a grifter taking advantage of people
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Great, so you're suggesting a party headed by a grifter as a valid alternative to the traditional two parties.

It's amazing you think this makes you look smart.
 
Strom said:
No…it’s amazing that you have the audacity to refer to me as stupid given your literary skills. You should be ashamed of yourself if you’re an example of the Canadian public school system. It’s unfortunate your parents couldn’t afford to provide you with a quality Catholic education.
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The Catholic education didn't seem to help you any. Once again..your short bus is here!
 
Strom said:
In your honest opinion, do you ever see the pendulum swinging back? Do you actually believe there will be a revival in this country that will result in the politics and morality of this country going back into a 1950s mindset? I do not. I think it’s a matter of maintenance at this point. Things have gone too far. Your example of a sliding morality scale is on point.
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Political cycles often occur. But I fear in this case the cultural issues that are so polarizing are far less to do with political issues, and far more to do with the disintegration of the impact of the judeo-christian worldview in our society. Much of that of course can be laid to the feet of the church who is not effective at spreading the gospel. Laws will never be the legitimate catalyst to the change of hearts.
 
Strom...I know you are, but what am I? :ROFLMAO:
 
Strom said:
No…it’s amazing that you have the audacity to refer to me as stupid given your literary skills. You should be ashamed of yourself if you’re an example of the Canadian public school system. It’s unfortunate your parents couldn’t afford to provide you with a quality Catholic education.
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You chose probably the worst party possible to open a discussion about alternatives to the two-party system. Don't blame your profound lack of good judgment (i.e. stupidity) on your "quality Catholic education." Your parents should demand a tuition refund.

Seriously, who thinks "So, we can agree that Republicans and Democrats suck, so how about the neo-Nazis?" is a good conversation starter?
 
Ransom said:
You chose probably the worst party possible to open a discussion about alternatives to the two-party system. Don't blame your profound lack of good judgment (i.e. stupidity) on your "quality Catholic education." Your parents should demand a tuition refund.

Seriously, who thinks "So, we can agree that Republicans and Democrats suck, so how about the neo-Nazis?" is a good conversation starter?
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LOL, Ransom must be going soft in his old age because that is the most genuine and charitable response to somebody he has deemed a borderline troll that I've ever seen.😁
 
ALAYMAN said:
LOL, Ransom must be going soft in his old age because that is the most genuine and charitable response to somebody he has deemed a borderline troll that I've ever seen.😁
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Even Scott can be charitable at times. He's not the hard case everyone makes him out to be! He and I didn't always get along on the old FFF, but we never really FOUGHT each other either! With FEW exceptions, I can get along with almost anyone...unless they're shooting a gun or bow and arrow at me! ;)
 
You got to go potty, Strom? You look really uncomfortable by that door! ;)
 
The reason Strom is jumping up and down with excitement is because the German driver's license door-to-door salesman just came to the door. Neo-Nazis might think (mistakenly) that such a license might come in handy some day.

(Sorry, I couldn't resist. Ever since Strom came through, this forum has been going to the dogs). Who let the dogs out?
 
AverageJoe said:
Even Scott can be charitable at times. He's not the hard case everyone makes him out to be! He and I didn't always get along on the old FFF, but we never really FOUGHT each other either! With FEW exceptions, I can get along with almost anyone...unless they're shooting a gun or bow and arrow at me! ;)
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???????? .....i never shot an arrow towards anyone that didn;t ask me to.... .and i didn;t shoot directly at him but at the target bale 100 yards away.... .he swore he could catch arrows in mid flight and succeed where myth busters failed.... so he stood next to the bale at 100 yards, and i shot arrows with rubber blunts... (bunny busters).. in place of the brass tips.. .and i shot at the center of the bale.... ... but in over 20 tries he failed to catch any arrows... ...and i didn;t hit him either.... (his bunny didn;t get busted).... .but the whole bunch of us did when the boss of the gun range, who has authority over all the ranges, drove up and ordered us to stop what we were doing.... then told us we would be permanently banned from the archery range if we ever did anything like that again.... ... ..but that friend and i still get along fine... . even though he shoots a compound bow, and tells my traditional archery students that a compound bow is better... ..that was part of the whole argument that got this thing started... he said arrows shot from a traditional bow are so much slower that catching one from that far away would be easier.... ....i proved him wrong... ........ ..but anyway... .... . that;s not really what you were talking about... was it... :cautious:
 
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???????? .....i never shot an arrow towards anyone that didn;t ask me to.... .and i didn;t shoot directly at him but at the target bale 100 yards away.... .he swore he could catch arrows in mid flight and succeed where myth busters failed.... so he stood next to the bale at 100 yards, and shot arrows with rubber blunts... (bunny busters).... in place of the brass tips.. .at the center of the bale.... ... but in over 20 tries he failed to catch any arrows... ...and i didn;t hit him either.... (his bunny didn;t get busted).... .but the whole bunch of us did when the boss of the gun range, who has authority over all the ranges, drove up and ordered us to stop what we were doing.... then told us we would be permanently banned from the archery range if we ever did anything like that again.... ... ..but that friend and i still get along fine... . even though he shoots a compound bow, and tells my traditional archery students that a compound bow is better... ..that was part of the whole argument that got this thing started... he said arrows shot from a traditional bow are so much slower that catching one from that far away would be easier.... ....i proved him wrong... ........ ..but anyway... .... . that;s not really what you were talking about... was it... :cautious:
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No...many years ago on the old FFF and another forum, I had an "internet stalker" who showed up in several places where I was. One was in 1998....he shot an arrow at me and missed, hitting the front tire of my vehicle instead. Then in 2001, one followed my wife and I around and took a shot at me when I was alone and standing next to a door in Augusta, GA...he "winged" me...just a slight flesh wound...but he got away. A person who saw the man got a partial plate and called it in. I'm not afraid of this kind of action against me, as it's not the only time this has happened in my life. When I was a teen I had a friend try to kill his mother by shooting her in the face with a 22 rifle at close range. She lived. He had tried to shoot me after I threatened to turn him in for robbing a gas station in KY when he ran away from home. He was drunk and missed by a hair After high school, when I owned a business, we did some cars (I was in autobody) for a man who was connected to the mob. We found some things we shouldn't have in one of the cars we did, and the man who owned the garage we were leasing tried to kill my business partner and me with a crossbow. Thankfully I had just turned the corner when he fire and missed both of us. I've been stabbed three times in my life, and nearly strangled once. People in several circles I ran in were very violent people. Thankfully I no longer run in those circles.
 
AverageJoe said:
No...many years ago on the old FFF and another forum, I had an "internet stalker" who showed up in several places where I was. One was in 1998....he shot an arrow at me and missed, hitting the front tire of my vehicle instead. Then in 2001, one followed my wife and I around and took a shot at me when I was alone and standing next to a door in Augusta, GA...he "winged" me...just a slight flesh wound...but he got away. A person who saw the man got a partial plate and called it in. I'm not afraid of this kind of action against me, as it's not the only time this has happened in my life. When I was a teen I had a friend try to kill his mother by shooting her in the face with a 22 rifle at close range. She lived. He had tried to shoot me after I threatened to turn him in for robbing a gas station in KY when he ran away from home. He was drunk and missed by a hair After high school, when I owned a business, we did some cars (I was in autobody) for a man who was connected to the mob. We found some things we shouldn't have in one of the cars we did, and the man who owned the garage we were leasing tried to kill my business partner and me with a crossbow. Thankfully I had just turned the corner when he fire and missed both of us. I've been stabbed three times in my life, and nearly strangled once. People in several circles I ran in were very violent people. Thankfully I no longer run in those circles.
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wow..... thanks.... i feel better now.... i do lose time once in a while and forget what i am doing... or what i have done.... ... ..but i was certain i would have remembed that.... ...very sorry all that happend to you.... thank God that guys skills fell short of his anger problem..... but God does protect us in miraculous ways, doesn;t He?.... ... :)
 
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