I Told You So

[Ekklesian]

you are lucky the former fff member hreb is not here....

I have dispatched a messenger to carry my thanks to my lucky stars:

he would have questioned your heritage and insisted you either had some arab blood ..or that one of your kids had crossed racial lines to miscegenate with the islamists... (actually he would have said "enemy").... i know that because he accused my family of all that when my sister and i defended people in mixed and interracial marriages..... .... yeah.... that was a hot topic here on the fff back in the day....... we were defending interracial marriages as hotly then as you are defending all things arab and anti-jewish now......

Well, he's found a worthy proxy in you. Well done.

i don;t know why things done in 1947 were done the way they were...... i wasn;t there

Maybe you should study up on it?

and unless you are so old you have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel then you weren;t there either......and yet you act as if you are not only the end all authority on palestine and the jews but that you also have skin in the game... ... .... .... i can;t help but wonder why..... ..

It's the dames. Mediterranean babes are hot as fire.

 

[DrHuk&Duck]

Ekk - are you Mr. Taleb?

 

[Baptist Renegade]

What is your opinion about the Romans and their Final Solution in 70 A.D.?

I don't really know enough of the actual history in order to speak of this in any detail. I do know that it was the Zealots whom the Romans grew tired of and decided they had to take action? I think it is commonly understood that the Jews were looking for Messiah to overthrow and expel the Romans, reinstate the "Throne of David" and basically "Make Israel Great Again."

The inhabitants of Jerusalem likely thought (or hoped, at least) that Jesus would be this "Messiah" that THEY were looking for but turned on him when it became clear that he was not the "messiah" they had in mind. I believe you could make the case that Barabbas was more in line with the type of "messiah" t hey were looking for truth be known.

The zealots fit hand-in-glove with Israel's false "messianic" mindset and I am certain it reached a "fever pitch" after Jesus's ascension. I can therefore understand Rome's actions in 70 AD and of course, Christ spoke and prophesied of these events.

I touch on that here.

I have heard that things were much more amicable between the Jews and Arabs prior to 1948 but then Israel was not their own nation and therefore not a political threat to anyone.

Yes, I understand that Christos=Messias (as rendered in the Gospels). But we have taken the Greek word, not the Greek transliteration of the Hebrew word. We are called Christians, not Messians. I don't mean we non-jews. I mean we believers, jew and gentile alike.

Acts 11:19-20, 26 Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only. And some of them were men of Cyprus and Cyrene, which, when they were come to Antioch, spake unto the Grecians, preaching the Lord Jesus. ... And the disciples [jew and Greek] were called Christians first in Antioch.​

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And there is a divine reason for that:

Isaiah 28:11-12 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.​

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Matthew 21:41-43, 45 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons. Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. ... And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.​

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1 Corinthians 14:21 In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.​

I just went through much of this during the Wednesday Bible Hour at our Church. We were going through 1 Corinthians and in chapter 14, I was explaining the purpose for tongues and why it is no longer relevant in the church today.

It is a testimony that the old covenant is through, and has been replaced.

I agree. I do not see a reinstatement of the "Old Covenant" with the coming "Messianic Kingdom. There are many "Wacky-doo" views among the dispies though.

Hebrew is the language of the ministration of death. Greek is the language of the ministration of the Spirit. Hebrew, condemnation; Greek, righteousness. There is nothing left for the Jew except indignation and wrath unless he repents and is baptized and is called a Christian. The entire purpose of the Exodus, the Red Sea crossing, and of the conquest of Canaan, was for the establishment of the worship of Jehovah in that place, in the prescribed manner by a chosen family.

What about Ezekiel 11:19 and 36:26? It seems to me that God will bring Israel to repentance and faith on a broad, "national" level! This also goes hand in hand with Rom 11:25. If this happened somewhere in the past, I believe we would likely be reading about it somewhere in the history books. I am convinced that it is in the future although I am not dogmatic about how or what exactly will take place.

Not sure that the believing Jews would be called "Christians" although they would certainly be among the elect as we are. I do maintain that Israel and the Church are two separate entities but (differing from the dispensationalists) that both are ONE PEOPLE - the elect of God chosen in him from the foundation ot the world (Eph 1:4).

That way is no more. Circumcision is nothing. Sinai was nailed to the Cross. There remaineth no more sacrifice. God has fulfilled His obligations under the terms of that covenant, and it has been discharged, and that includes the land title. There is a new covenant now that engages a new kind of sacrifice, by a new kind of worshipper in a new kind of mountain.

John 4:20-21, 23 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. ... But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.​

What is it but the spirit of antichrist that seeks to re-establish the circumcision under the old covenant in the old land?

I agree that Circumcision will likely no longer be a thing in the future Messianic kingdom nor would there be any "temple sacrifices." When God ripped the veil, he made it clear that there was NO MORE sacrifice for sin.

I agree. I will go farther and say that it is judaizing to call one's self a Messianic Jew.

If you are IN CHRIST, you are part of his Church. Period.

There are also some so-called "Messianic Jews" out there who are quite messed up in their doctrine! Some even deny the deity of Christ!

Well, the West certainly stepped in it. That's for sure. Maybe Trump hasn't gone far enough? Maybe the thing to do is for the U.S. to just take it all.

The West has "Stepped in" a lot of things they should not have! I think we should have left the middle east well enough alone.

 

[IFB X-Files]

Israel Begins Choking Gaza Again, Backed By Adelson Stooge Trump

Listen to a reading of this article (reading by Tim Foley):

www.caitlinjohnst.one

 

[Ekklesian]

What about Ezekiel 11:19 and 36:26? It seems to me that God will bring Israel to repentance and faith on a broad, "national" level! This also goes hand in hand with Rom 11:25. If this happened somewhere in the past, I believe we would likely be reading about it somewhere in the history books. I am convinced that it is in the future although I am not dogmatic about how or what exactly will take place.

That's the Gospel. And it's fulfilled in the call to the elect of every nation, which is 'all Israel.'

Romans 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded​

And the elect have come to that Mountain:

Hebrews 12:22-24 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.​

 

[Ekklesian]

Israel Begins Choking Gaza Again, Backed By Adelson Stooge Trump

Listen to a reading of this article (reading by Tim Foley):

www.caitlinjohnst.one

I think Trump is genuinely America first. Unless he's been convinced of the Zionist wrestings of Genesis 12:3, I don't think he will react too well to being taken advantage of.

 

[Ransom]

"So Israel is breaking international laws against collective punishment by laying siege to an aid-dependent population in order to force changes to a ceasefire deal."

The author doesn't know what she's talking about. Collective punishment is when you do things like imprison or execute innocent noncombatants to discourage resistance. It is in fact a war crime. Siege is blockading enemy territory to disrupt supply lines and force a weakened enemy to surrender. It's not a war crime per se, provided (for example) that civilians are permitted to flee, and Israel has given Gazan noncombatants fair warning in the past.