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Castor Muscular said:I'll be checking out Anglican and Lutheran churches soon. My wife is finally ready for a change.
Andrea Palpant Dilley explains her own shift from Presbyterianism to apostacy to generic evangelicalism to high church.
rsc2a said:One thing we've definitely moved from is believing some type of Republican Dispensational American Jesus of Suburbia Christianityâ„¢ is what the Bible teaches.
ALAYMAN said:Andrea Palpant Dilley explains her own shift from Presbyterianism to apostacy to generic evangelicalism to high church.
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth pretty much sums up those who can't plant their feet, but need some "spirituality".
Tarheel Baptist said:ALAYMAN said:Andrea Palpant Dilley explains her own shift from Presbyterianism to apostacy to generic evangelicalism to high church.
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth pretty much sums up those who can't plant their feet, but need some "spirituality".
...their opinion is truth.
The kids who leave evangelical Protestantism are looking for something the world can’t give them. The world can give them hotter jeans, better coffee, bands, speakers, and book clubs than a congregation can. What it can’t give them is theology; membership in a group that transcends time, place and race; a historic rootedness; something greater than themselves; ordained men who will be spiritual leaders and not merely listeners and buddies and story-tellers. What the kids leaving generic evangelicalism seem to want is something the world can never give them–a holy Father who demands reverence, a Saviour who requires careful worship, and a Spirit who must be obeyed. They are looking for true, deep, intellectually robust spirituality in their parents’ churches and not finding it.
BandGuy said:The kids who leave evangelical Protestantism are looking for something the world can’t give them. The world can give them hotter jeans, better coffee, bands, speakers, and book clubs than a congregation can. What it can’t give them is theology; membership in a group that transcends time, place and race; a historic rootedness; something greater than themselves; ordained men who will be spiritual leaders and not merely listeners and buddies and story-tellers. What the kids leaving generic evangelicalism seem to want is something the world can never give them–a holy Father who demands reverence, a Saviour who requires careful worship, and a Spirit who must be obeyed. They are looking for true, deep, intellectually robust spirituality in their parents’ churches and not finding it.
I think there's some very good wisdom here.
Ransom said:I attended a low-church Anglican service at the invitation of a friend two Sundays ago. I grew up in a mainline Protestant church, so I'm generally familiar with more formal liturgy. However, it really blew away my expectations. Yes, there were the repeated prayers, the recital of the creed, confession and absolution, and the weekly Eucharist (surprising to me, an open communion). And the sermon was twice as long as I was expecting - close to 45 minutes. It was a very good exposition of Psalm 95.
Tarheel Baptist said:BandGuy said:The kids who leave evangelical Protestantism are looking for something the world can’t give them. The world can give them hotter jeans, better coffee, bands, speakers, and book clubs than a congregation can. What it can’t give them is theology; membership in a group that transcends time, place and race; a historic rootedness; something greater than themselves; ordained men who will be spiritual leaders and not merely listeners and buddies and story-tellers. What the kids leaving generic evangelicalism seem to want is something the world can never give them–a holy Father who demands reverence, a Saviour who requires careful worship, and a Spirit who must be obeyed. They are looking for true, deep, intellectually robust spirituality in their parents’ churches and not finding it.
I think there's some very good wisdom here.
Agree!
The contemporary, relevant movement was give them what they want...which left them empty.
rsc2a said:Tarheel Baptist said:BandGuy said:The kids who leave evangelical Protestantism are looking for something the world can’t give them. The world can give them hotter jeans, better coffee, bands, speakers, and book clubs than a congregation can. What it can’t give them is theology; membership in a group that transcends time, place and race; a historic rootedness; something greater than themselves; ordained men who will be spiritual leaders and not merely listeners and buddies and story-tellers. What the kids leaving generic evangelicalism seem to want is something the world can never give them–a holy Father who demands reverence, a Saviour who requires careful worship, and a Spirit who must be obeyed. They are looking for true, deep, intellectually robust spirituality in their parents’ churches and not finding it.
I think there's some very good wisdom here.
Agree!
The contemporary, relevant movement was give them what they want...which left them empty.
You'll find this missing from a lot of the contemporary and fundamentalist churches.
rsc2a said:[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]Thou hast a firm grasp of the obvious...which is usually not the case with you!
Tarheel Baptist said:rsc2a said:[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]Thou hast a firm grasp of the obvious...which is usually not the case with you!
And you're still being a humble picture of Christ by your dignity, gentleness, gracious speech, and love towards others. :
rsc2a said:Tarheel Baptist said:rsc2a said:[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]Thou hast a firm grasp of the obvious...which is usually not the case with you!
And you're still being a humble picture of Christ by your dignity, gentleness, gracious speech, and love towards others. :
Your judgement of me is noted and accepted. : and :
I think you should consider some advice Dr Falwell periodically gave in chapel to some 'theologians' at Liberty.
Go now and Pastor...while you still know everything!
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