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A sister thread to this:
Here is my challenge to non-KJV-onlyists: Can you show me a passage in the KJV where it claims something is true, that really isn't? What falsehoods does it teach that I shouldn't believe?
A few ground rules, based on my experiences with the previous thread, just so we're clear on what I am not asking:
1. Don't just point out that the KJV "omits" or "leaves out" this or that. I think we can all agree that something unsaid is not the same as something denied. The fact that I do not repeatedly, publicly disavow membership in the Communist Party, does not imply that I am a member. Something true that is not said, is not the same as something said that is not true.
2. Don't just point out that the KJV says something different than the other translations. Being different is not necessarily the same as being wrong. We all recognize that there are multiple ways of saying the same thing. You need to show us that what is being asserted in the KJV is, in fact, objectively wrong.
3. Corollary to #1 and 2: No circular reasoning, please. If you are arguing one of the above, and your best argument is that the other translations says one thing while the KJV says another (or says nothing), then you have argued nothing except competing authorities. If you are going to appeal to the other translations alone to prove the KJV is objectively wrong, you automatically assume the burden of first proving that the other translations are objectively right, which is followed by the added burden of showing that the other translations and KJV are in contradiction.
4. Violate one of these ground rules, and at my discretion I will respond merely with the corresponding number. It is your responsibility to know what kinds of bad arguments to avoid.
There you have it. Let the accusations fly. What does the KJV say that I shouldn't believe?
Here is my challenge to non-KJV-onlyists: Can you show me a passage in the KJV where it claims something is true, that really isn't? What falsehoods does it teach that I shouldn't believe?
A few ground rules, based on my experiences with the previous thread, just so we're clear on what I am not asking:
1. Don't just point out that the KJV "omits" or "leaves out" this or that. I think we can all agree that something unsaid is not the same as something denied. The fact that I do not repeatedly, publicly disavow membership in the Communist Party, does not imply that I am a member. Something true that is not said, is not the same as something said that is not true.
2. Don't just point out that the KJV says something different than the other translations. Being different is not necessarily the same as being wrong. We all recognize that there are multiple ways of saying the same thing. You need to show us that what is being asserted in the KJV is, in fact, objectively wrong.
3. Corollary to #1 and 2: No circular reasoning, please. If you are arguing one of the above, and your best argument is that the other translations says one thing while the KJV says another (or says nothing), then you have argued nothing except competing authorities. If you are going to appeal to the other translations alone to prove the KJV is objectively wrong, you automatically assume the burden of first proving that the other translations are objectively right, which is followed by the added burden of showing that the other translations and KJV are in contradiction.
4. Violate one of these ground rules, and at my discretion I will respond merely with the corresponding number. It is your responsibility to know what kinds of bad arguments to avoid.
There you have it. Let the accusations fly. What does the KJV say that I shouldn't believe?