Were you there and/or what are your thoughts?

[RAIDER]

Someone posted this link a couple of weeks ago.  It is a sermon preached by Jack Hyles in the late '80s.  It was during "the battle".  I had already graduated and was gone.  I remember listening to it on a cassette tape.  I listened to it again last week from this link.  Here are my questions - Were you there when this sermon was preached?  If so, what were your thoughts at that time and your thoughts now?  If you were not there, did you listen to the cassette?  What were your thoughts at that time and your thoughts now?


www.jesusisprecious.org/sermons/audio/jack_hyles/weathering_the_storm.mp3

 

[Jo]

I admit I did not listen to the entire sermon; however, I listened enough to remember how it felt to be in the congregation listening to his voice.  He had a great way of grabbing our attention.  He sounds very convincing.  I felt kind of sucked into it again.  It was weird.

Now that I know more about the man and all that went on behind the curtain, I didn't feel disgust.  I felt a slight amount of pity.  I guess he was fighting for his reputation and his financial dynasty.  Too bad, he didn't try to be just a motivational speaker.

I would love to hear from his secretary or people who were actually on the front lines during this time.

 

[RAIDER]

I admit I did not listen to the entire sermon; however, I listened enough to remember how it felt to be in the congregation listening to his voice.  He had a great way of grabbing our attention.  He sounds very convincing.  I felt kind of sucked into it again.  It was weird.

Now that I know more about the man and all that went on behind the curtain, I didn't feel disgust.  I felt a slight amount of pity.  I guess he was fighting for his reputation and his financial dynasty.  Too bad, he didn't try to be just a motivational speaker.

I would love to hear from his secretary or people who were actually on the front lines during this time.

Unfortunately this is the group from which we never hear.

 

[prophet]

Thank God, no, i wasn't there.

At that time, i dragged into SS once a month or so.

It was several years til i returned, and Casteel had just taken off with  the teen he was molesting.
(She was 18 by then, and they married, so he was never charged. But, we'd all be fools to think that that began the day she turned 18 ...)

So, i was instantly suspicious of everything.
I was still weighing the things that Smellin's brother had told me, years earlier.
I knew VN was a total hypocrite, having publicly put on such a show of being JH's best bud, then coming out with a story that he was being punked by him for a decade.

Regardless, i never held JH in any higher regard than any other man, and i missed all the cheerleading sessions that may have affected me adversely.



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[Teri in NC]

I admit I did not listen to the entire sermon; however, I listened enough to remember how it felt to be in the congregation listening to his voice.  He had a great way of grabbing our attention.  He sounds very convincing.  I felt kind of sucked into it again.  It was weird.

Now that I know more about the man and all that went on behind the curtain, I didn't feel disgust.  I felt a slight amount of pity.  I guess he was fighting for his reputation and his financial dynasty.  Too bad, he didn't try to be just a motivational speaker.

I would love to hear from his secretary or people who were actually on the front lines during this time.

Unfortunately this is the group from which we never hear.

If only they had spoken up.....

 

[16KJV11]

Someone posted this link a couple of weeks ago.  It is a sermon preached by Jack Hyles in the late '80s.  It was during "the battle".  I had already graduated and was gone.  I remember listening to it on a cassette tape.  I listened to it again last week from this link.  Here are my questions - Were you there when this sermon was preached?  If so, what were your thoughts at that time and your thoughts now?  If you were not there, did you listen to the cassette?  What were your thoughts at that time and your thoughts now?


www.jesusisprecious.org/sermons/audio/jack_hyles/weathering_the_storm.mp3

I was in the Air Force during that time, but I heard inklings about it when a good friend of mine did not go back to HAC b/c of the battle.

 

[Twisted]

It's too bad he never got that "fired up" about teaching the Bible.

 

[Walt]

Someone posted this link a couple of weeks ago.  It is a sermon preached by Jack Hyles in the late '80s.  It was during "the battle".  I had already graduated and was gone.  I remember listening to it on a cassette tape.  I listened to it again last week from this link.  Here are my questions - Were you there when this sermon was preached?  If so, what were your thoughts at that time and your thoughts now?  If you were not there, did you listen to the cassette?  What were your thoughts at that time and your thoughts now?


www.jesusisprecious.org/sermons/audio/jack_hyles/weathering_the_storm.mp3

I'll listen to it "some time" - I wasn't part of FBCH to hear it, and I never was taken with any preacher to order tapes or be part of a "tape club".

So, I don't have any "then" memories, but it may be fun to analyze it now.

It must have been really late 80s, as the Sumner article came out in the spring of 1989, I believe.  He had a "unnamed" warning in the fall of the previous year (but most people guessed of whom he was speaking).

 

[RAIDER]

I had been gone from HAC for several years when all of this came out.  I remember my pastor handing me a copy of the Biblical Evangelist where I read Sumner's article. 

 

[Bruh]

He said he was saying what he was saying because they were attacking his friends and that this was not about him and goes on to say how loyal of a friend he is and about the vow he made to God and how..........well, again, he was the hero after the "sermon".

 

[Jo]

This goes under a "weird" observation.

I think it was my last semester, which was, Fall of '78.  I was waiting near the chapel entrance for my boyfriend.  It was a very busy time of day, so people were rushing from one place to another.  It must have been right before chapel started.  I saw an average looking guy with glasses in a tan trench coat with a briefcase.  As people were rushing by, I noticed he sat down his briefcase in the middle of the hustle and bustle.  What happened next has always been a curious thing to me.  A guy who looked like it might have been his twin was dressed with the same style and color of trench coat, came quickly walking amidst the bustle and picked up the briefcase.  They each walked very deliberately heading separate ways with no acknowledgment of each other or a hello.  Weird, huh.

I'm not prone to noticing things like that, but listening to Brother Hyles mention the IRS on the recording.....just reminded me of that odd event.  I always wondered about it.

I love a good spy movie.  Who knows.  I suppose it could have been a private eye watching someone for a divorce or something.    With all of the other weird things that went on, it didn't seem that odd at the time.  It is a very vivid memory, however.

 

[prophet]

This goes under a "weird" observation.

I think it was my last semester, which was, Fall of '78.  I was waiting near the chapel entrance for my boyfriend.  It was a very busy time of day, so people were rushing from one place to another.  It must have been right before chapel started.  I saw an average looking guy with glasses in a tan trench coat with a briefcase.  As people were rushing by, I noticed he sat down his briefcase in the middle of the hustle and bustle.  What happened next has always been a curious thing to me.  A guy who looked like it might have been his twin was dressed with the same style and color of trench coat, came quickly walking amidst the bustle and picked up the briefcase.  They each walked very deliberately heading separate ways with no acknowledgment of each other or a hello.  Weird, huh.

I'm not prone to noticing things like that, but listening to Brother Hyles mention the IRS on the recording.....just reminded me of that odd event.  I always wondered about it.

I love a good spy movie.  Who knows.  I suppose it could have been a private eye watching someone for a divorce or something.    With all of the other weird things that went on, it didn't seem that odd at the time.  It is a very vivid memory, however.

Somebody's roommate brought em their briefcase...

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[16KJV11]

This goes under a "weird" observation.

I think it was my last semester, which was, Fall of '78.  I was waiting near the chapel entrance for my boyfriend.  It was a very busy time of day, so people were rushing from one place to another.  It must have been right before chapel started.  I saw an average looking guy with glasses in a tan trench coat with a briefcase.  As people were rushing by, I noticed he sat down his briefcase in the middle of the hustle and bustle.  What happened next has always been a curious thing to me.  A guy who looked like it might have been his twin was dressed with the same style and color of trench coat, came quickly walking amidst the bustle and picked up the briefcase.  They each walked very deliberately heading separate ways with no acknowledgment of each other or a hello.  Weird, huh.

I'm not prone to noticing things like that, but listening to Brother Hyles mention the IRS on the recording.....just reminded me of that odd event.  I always wondered about it.

I love a good spy movie.  Who knows.  I suppose it could have been a private eye watching someone for a divorce or something.    With all of the other weird things that went on, it didn't seem that odd at the time.  It is a very vivid memory, however.

Somebody's roommate brought em their briefcase...

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Actually that was the way RAIDER and TERI used to communicate since they were both campused.

 

[Jo]

Guess what I perceived as espionage could have just been a ham sandwich.

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[RAIDER]

Actually that was the way RAIDER and TERI used to communicate since they were both campused.

I can still remember leaving her a brief case full of Snicker bars.

 

[16KJV11]

Actually that was the way RAIDER and TERI used to communicate since they were both campused.

I can still remember leaving her a brief case full of Snicker bars.

For a minute there, I thought you were going to say a brief case full of Milk Bones...
Ducking and hiding.... ???

 

[RAIDER]

Actually that was the way RAIDER and TERI used to communicate since they were both campused.

I can still remember leaving her a brief case full of Snicker bars.

For a minute there, I thought you were going to say a brief case full of Milk Bones...
Ducking and hiding.... ???

 

I only used those when I needed her to go fetch the Sword of the Lord.

 

[patriotic]

I had been gone from HAC for several years when all of this came out.  I remember my pastor handing me a copy of the Biblical Evangelist where I read Sumner's article.

During that time, we met a good Christian brother who visited our church while on vacation who thought it his responsibility to send it to us a couple weeks later. 

Funny thing though,  during a Google search I did yesterday, "The Biblical  Evangelist" came up.  I hadn't heard of it in years.

Now today, I see it here. Is it a sign for something, I wonder?

 

[Twisted]

I had been gone from HAC for several years when all of this came out.  I remember my pastor handing me a copy of the Biblical Evangelist where I read Sumner's article.

During that time, we met a good Christian brother who visited our church while on vacation who thought it his responsibility to send it to us a couple weeks later. 

Funny thing though,  during a Google search I did yesterday, "The Biblical  Evangelist" came up.  I hadn't heard of it in years.

Now today, I see it here. Is it a sign for something, I wonder?

You're old?

 

[patriotic]

I had been gone from HAC for several years when all of this came out.  I remember my pastor handing me a copy of the Biblical Evangelist where I read Sumner's article.

During that time, we met a good Christian brother who visited our church while on vacation who thought it his responsibility to send it to us a couple weeks later. 

Funny thing though,  during a Google search I did yesterday, "The Biblical  Evangelist" came up.  I hadn't heard of it in years.

Now today, I see it here. Is it a sign for something, I wonder?

You're old?

Yes. I am.