The power of the Gospel

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I never cease to be amazed at the power of the Gospel, when it is simply and sacredly preached.  To watch grown adults walk into a church lost, hear the message, fall under conviction, and respond to a Gospel invitation to be saved is still to me a wondrous thing. 

We were blessed with an unusual Sunday, as 11 people -- all adults and teenagers -- were kneeling across the front of the church being carefully and tenderly dealt with about salvation.  To see the joy on each face afterwards, and hear them proclaim their faith in Christ....


...wow....

I think I'll do this at least one more Sunday.... :)
 
Frag said:
I never cease to be amazed at the power of the Gospel, when it is simply and sacredly preached.  To watch grown adults walk into a church lost, hear the message, fall under conviction, and respond to a Gospel invitation to be saved is still to me a wondrous thing. 

We were blessed with an unusual Sunday, as 11 people -- all adults and teenagers -- were kneeling across the front of the church being carefully and tenderly dealt with about salvation.  To see the joy on each face afterwards, and hear them proclaim their faith in Christ....


...wow....

I think I'll do this at least one more Sunday.... :)

Great! Now please show me where Jesus Himself taught that forgiveness of sin and eternal life is obtained by grace through faith alone in His death, burial and resurrection; where He was to become the blood atonement for our sins and impute His righteousness to our record. If He didn't preach such, the "power of the Gospel" as you put it, probably wasn't Jesus' gospel at all.
 
Frag said:
bruinboy said:
Frag, what church did you visit? PTL.


Ok.  That made me laugh...

Picture removed by admin... DO NOT post information NOT made public.

I shall refrain from doing it again. I'm sorry.
 
Smellin Coffee said:
Frag said:
I never cease to be amazed at the power of the Gospel, when it is simply and sacredly preached.  To watch grown adults walk into a church lost, hear the message, fall under conviction, and respond to a Gospel invitation to be saved is still to me a wondrous thing. 

We were blessed with an unusual Sunday, as 11 people -- all adults and teenagers -- were kneeling across the front of the church being carefully and tenderly dealt with about salvation.  To see the joy on each face afterwards, and hear them proclaim their faith in Christ....


...wow....

I think I'll do this at least one more Sunday.... :)

Great! Now please show me where Jesus Himself taught that forgiveness of sin and eternal life is obtained by grace through faith alone in His death, burial and resurrection; where He was to become the blood atonement for our sins and impute His righteousness to our record. If He didn't preach such, the "power of the Gospel" as you put it, probably wasn't Jesus' gospel at all.

Dan, keep working, striving and trying.....but you might want to sacrifice a lamb, bull or goat once in awhile....
 
Smellin Coffee said:
Great! Now please show me where Jesus Himself taught that forgiveness of sin and eternal life is obtained by grace through faith alone in His death, burial and resurrection; where He was to become the blood atonement for our sins and impute His righteousness to our record. If He didn't preach such, the "power of the Gospel" as you put it, probably wasn't Jesus' gospel at all.

I really need that bunny picture because I have no idea what you just said.
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Frag said:
I never cease to be amazed at the power of the Gospel, when it is simply and sacredly preached.  To watch grown adults walk into a church lost, hear the message, fall under conviction, and respond to a Gospel invitation to be saved is still to me a wondrous thing. 

We were blessed with an unusual Sunday, as 11 people -- all adults and teenagers -- were kneeling across the front of the church being carefully and tenderly dealt with about salvation.  To see the joy on each face afterwards, and hear them proclaim their faith in Christ....


...wow....

I think I'll do this at least one more Sunday.... :)

Great! Now please show me where Jesus Himself taught that forgiveness of sin and eternal life is obtained by grace through faith alone in His death, burial and resurrection; where He was to become the blood atonement for our sins and impute His righteousness to our record. If He didn't preach such, the "power of the Gospel" as you put it, probably wasn't Jesus' gospel at all.

Dan, keep working, striving and trying.....but you might want to sacrifice a lamb, bull or goat once in awhile....

In sacrifice and offering you have not delighted, but you have given me an open ear. Burnt offering and sin offering you have not required.

Deliver me from bloodguiltiness, O God, O God of my salvation, and my tongue will sing aloud of your righteousness. O Lord, open my lips, and my mouth will declare your praise. For you will not delight in sacrifice, or I would give it; you will not be pleased with a burnt offering. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise.

Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: “Add your burnt offerings to your sacrifices, and eat the flesh. For in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, I did not speak to your fathers or command them concerning burnt offerings and sacrifices. But this command I gave them: ‘Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and you shall be my people. And walk in all the way that I command you, that it may be well with you.’

“Has the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to listen than the fat of rams.

“What to me is the multitude of your sacrifices? says the Lord; I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams and the fat of well-fed beasts; I do not delight in the blood of bulls, or of lambs, or of goats...Wash yourselves; make yourselves clean; remove the evil of your deeds from before my eyes; cease to do evil, learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow's cause.

But this is the one to whom I will look: he who is humble and contrite in spirit and trembles at my word. “He who slaughters an ox is like one who kills a man; he who sacrifices a lamb, like one who breaks a dog's neck; he who presents a grain offering, like one who offers pig's blood; he who makes a memorial offering of frankincense, like one who blesses an idol. These have chosen their own ways, and their soul delights in their abominations; I also will choose harsh treatment for them and bring their fears upon them, because when I called, no one answered, when I spoke, they did not listen; but they did what was evil in my eyes and chose that in which I did not delight.”

As for my sacrificial offerings, they sacrifice meat and eat it, but the Lord does not accept them. Now he will remember their iniquity and punish their sins; they shall return to Egypt.

“I hate, I despise your feasts, and I take no delight in your solemn assemblies. Even though you offer me your burnt offerings and grain offerings, I will not accept them; and the peace offerings of your fattened animals, I will not look upon them. Take away from me the noise of your songs; to the melody of your harps I will not listen. But let justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream.

“With what shall I come before the Lord, and bow myself before God on high? Shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves a year old? Will the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams, with ten thousands of rivers of oil?
Shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?” He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
 
Smellin Coffee said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Frag said:
I never cease to be amazed at the power of the Gospel, when it is simply and sacredly preached.  To watch grown adults walk into a church lost, hear the message, fall under conviction, and respond to a Gospel invitation to be saved is still to me a wondrous thing. 

We were blessed with an unusual Sunday, as 11 people -- all adults and teenagers -- were kneeling across the front of the church being carefully and tenderly dealt with about salvation.  To see the joy on each face afterwards, and hear them proclaim their faith in Christ....


...wow....

I think I'll do this at least one more Sunday.... :)

Great! Now please show me where Jesus Himself taught that forgiveness of sin and eternal life is obtained by grace through faith alone in His death, burial and resurrection; where He was to become the blood atonement for our sins and impute His righteousness to our record. If He didn't preach such, the "power of the Gospel" as you put it, probably wasn't Jesus' gospel at all.

Dan, keep working, striving and trying.....but you might want to sacrifice a lamb, bull or goat once in awhile....

In sacrifice and offering you have not delighted, but you have given me an open ear. Burnt offering and sin offering you have not required.

Deliver me from bloodguiltiness, O God, O God of my salvation, and my tongue will sing aloud of your righteousness. O Lord, open my lips, and my mouth will declare your praise. For you will not delight in sacrifice, or I would give it; you will not be pleased with a burnt offering. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise.

Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: “Add your burnt offerings to your sacrifices, and eat the flesh. For in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, I did not speak to your fathers or command them concerning burnt offerings and sacrifices. But this command I gave them: ‘Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and you shall be my people. And walk in all the way that I command you, that it may be well with you.’

“Has the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to listen than the fat of rams.

“What to me is the multitude of your sacrifices? says the Lord; I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams and the fat of well-fed beasts; I do not delight in the blood of bulls, or of lambs, or of goats...Wash yourselves; make yourselves clean; remove the evil of your deeds from before my eyes; cease to do evil, learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow's cause.

But this is the one to whom I will look: he who is humble and contrite in spirit and trembles at my word. “He who slaughters an ox is like one who kills a man; he who sacrifices a lamb, like one who breaks a dog's neck; he who presents a grain offering, like one who offers pig's blood; he who makes a memorial offering of frankincense, like one who blesses an idol. These have chosen their own ways, and their soul delights in their abominations; I also will choose harsh treatment for them and bring their fears upon them, because when I called, no one answered, when I spoke, they did not listen; but they did what was evil in my eyes and chose that in which I did not delight.”

As for my sacrificial offerings, they sacrifice meat and eat it, but the Lord does not accept them. Now he will remember their iniquity and punish their sins; they shall return to Egypt.

“I hate, I despise your feasts, and I take no delight in your solemn assemblies. Even though you offer me your burnt offerings and grain offerings, I will not accept them; and the peace offerings of your fattened animals, I will not look upon them. Take away from me the noise of your songs; to the melody of your harps I will not listen. But let justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream.

“With what shall I come before the Lord, and bow myself before God on high? Shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves a year old? Will the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams, with ten thousands of rivers of oil?
Shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?” He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

This man after he offered one sacrifice for sin forever, sat down at the right hand of God.

There is now no more sacrifice for sin.
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Frag said:
I never cease to be amazed at the power of the Gospel, when it is simply and sacredly preached.  To watch grown adults walk into a church lost, hear the message, fall under conviction, and respond to a Gospel invitation to be saved is still to me a wondrous thing. 

We were blessed with an unusual Sunday, as 11 people -- all adults and teenagers -- were kneeling across the front of the church being carefully and tenderly dealt with about salvation.  To see the joy on each face afterwards, and hear them proclaim their faith in Christ....


...wow....

I think I'll do this at least one more Sunday.... :)

Great! Now please show me where Jesus Himself taught that forgiveness of sin and eternal life is obtained by grace through faith alone in His death, burial and resurrection; where He was to become the blood atonement for our sins and impute His righteousness to our record. If He didn't preach such, the "power of the Gospel" as you put it, probably wasn't Jesus' gospel at all.

Dan, keep working, striving and trying.....but you might want to sacrifice a lamb, bull or goat once in awhile....

In sacrifice and offering you have not delighted, but you have given me an open ear. Burnt offering and sin offering you have not required.

Deliver me from bloodguiltiness, O God, O God of my salvation, and my tongue will sing aloud of your righteousness. O Lord, open my lips, and my mouth will declare your praise. For you will not delight in sacrifice, or I would give it; you will not be pleased with a burnt offering. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise.

Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: “Add your burnt offerings to your sacrifices, and eat the flesh. For in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, I did not speak to your fathers or command them concerning burnt offerings and sacrifices. But this command I gave them: ‘Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and you shall be my people. And walk in all the way that I command you, that it may be well with you.’

“Has the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to listen than the fat of rams.

“What to me is the multitude of your sacrifices? says the Lord; I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams and the fat of well-fed beasts; I do not delight in the blood of bulls, or of lambs, or of goats...Wash yourselves; make yourselves clean; remove the evil of your deeds from before my eyes; cease to do evil, learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow's cause.

But this is the one to whom I will look: he who is humble and contrite in spirit and trembles at my word. “He who slaughters an ox is like one who kills a man; he who sacrifices a lamb, like one who breaks a dog's neck; he who presents a grain offering, like one who offers pig's blood; he who makes a memorial offering of frankincense, like one who blesses an idol. These have chosen their own ways, and their soul delights in their abominations; I also will choose harsh treatment for them and bring their fears upon them, because when I called, no one answered, when I spoke, they did not listen; but they did what was evil in my eyes and chose that in which I did not delight.”

As for my sacrificial offerings, they sacrifice meat and eat it, but the Lord does not accept them. Now he will remember their iniquity and punish their sins; they shall return to Egypt.

“I hate, I despise your feasts, and I take no delight in your solemn assemblies. Even though you offer me your burnt offerings and grain offerings, I will not accept them; and the peace offerings of your fattened animals, I will not look upon them. Take away from me the noise of your songs; to the melody of your harps I will not listen. But let justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream.

“With what shall I come before the Lord, and bow myself before God on high? Shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves a year old? Will the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams, with ten thousands of rivers of oil?
Shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?” He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

This man after he offered one sacrifice for sin forever, sat down at the right hand of God.

There is now no more sacrifice for sin.

Ah yes, the same author who wrote:

And without shedding of blood is no remission of sin.

Yet throughout the history of the Bible, there were many times sin was forgiven without need for sacrifice, starting with the grain offerings by the poor and the scapegoat in the Law. When Jesus forgave sin in the New Testament, He never told anyone (according to record) to go to the priest and offer a sacrifice to complete the forgiveness process. Seems the OT contradicts the writer of Hebrews now and then. ;)
 
Smellin Coffee said:
Yet throughout the history of the Bible, there were many times sin was forgiven without need for sacrifice, starting with the grain offerings by the poor and the scapegoat in the Law. When Jesus forgave sin in the New Testament, He never told anyone (according to record) to go to the priest and offer a sacrifice to complete the forgiveness process. Seems the OT contradicts the writer of Hebrews now and then. ;)

There seems to be a lot wrong with Hebrews. 
 
[quote author=Smellin Coffee]Yet throughout the history of the Bible, there were many times sin was forgiven without need for sacrifice, starting with the grain offerings by the poor and the scapegoat in the Law. When Jesus forgave sin in the New Testament, He never told anyone (according to record) to go to the priest and offer a sacrifice to complete the forgiveness process. Seems the OT contradicts the writer of Hebrews now and then. ;)[/quote]

And [Jesus] charged him to tell no one, but “go and show yourself to the priest, and make an offering for your cleansing, as Moses commanded, for a proof to them.” Luke 5:14
 
rsc2a said:
[quote author=Smellin Coffee]Yet throughout the history of the Bible, there were many times sin was forgiven without need for sacrifice, starting with the grain offerings by the poor and the scapegoat in the Law. When Jesus forgave sin in the New Testament, He never told anyone (according to record) to go to the priest and offer a sacrifice to complete the forgiveness process. Seems the OT contradicts the writer of Hebrews now and then. ;)

And [Jesus] charged him to tell no one, but “go and show yourself to the priest, and make an offering for your cleansing, as Moses commanded, for a proof to them.” Luke 5:14
[/quote]

I said "...to complete the forgiveness process." Context of the verse you quoted had to do with the cleansing of leprosy, the priest as an eyewitness to his healing and the sacrifice was "a testimony" about the healing. Nothing to do with the forgiveness of sin whatsoever.

12 While Jesus was in one of the towns, a man came along who was covered with leprosy. When he saw Jesus, he fell with his face to the ground and begged him, “Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean.”

13 Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. “I am willing,” he said. “Be clean!” And immediately the leprosy left him.

14 Then Jesus ordered him, “Don’t tell anyone, but go, show yourself to the priest and offer the sacrifices that Moses commanded for your cleansing, as a testimony to them.”



Interesting what Jesus said about sacrifice:

John 10:10

The thief comes only to steal and kill (thyō) and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly.

thyō

1) to sacrifice, immolate

2) to slay, kill

a) of the paschal lamb

3) slaughter

http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G2380&t=KJV

And when Jesus turned over the temple tables, He claimed that the place had been made into "a den of robberss". And the irony is that Jesus was quoting Jeremiah with the words God told him to use outside the temple, telling the people that God demanded obedience instead of sacrice. No wonder when Jesus asked His disciples who people thought He was they said, “Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
 
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