The name of Schaap`s victim has been revealed.

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or not. I had just read someone post it along with alleged information about the girl but his FB account had been deleted. I guess we`ll still have to wait for the FBI to finish their investigation.

But if what he said about her is true all I can say is wow. Allegedly this girl willingly had affairs with other middle aged men during and after the Schaap affair. Allegedly she even bragged to other students at her school (Hammond Baptist) about her affair with Schaap and would take pictures to prove it - well that certainly explain the photos - she probably sent the photos to others as well if all this is true of course.
 
brianb said:
or not. I had just read someone post it along with alleged information about the girl but his FB account had been deleted. I guess we`ll still have to wait for the FBI to finish their investigation.

But if what he said about her is true all I can say is wow. Allegedly this girl willingly had affairs with other middle aged men during and after the Schaap affair. Allegedly she even bragged to other students at her school (Hammond Baptist) about her affair with Schaap and would take pictures to prove it - well that certainly explain the photos - she probably sent the photos to others as well if all this is true of course.

Brian likes his gossip with extra caffeine:

13 Besides that, they learn to be idlers, going about from house to house, and not only idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying what they should not.

1 Timothy 5:13

I am not sure why we need to know who the victim was, what she has or has not done, or anything at all about her until the investigation is over.  I know there are plenty of people who disagree with me, but if she was a minor, It really doesn't matter to me what she did or did not do as to determining Schaap's guilt or innocence.  The bottom line for me is that she was a 16 year old stupid kid who doesn't know better and who was under his authority.  He was a stupid adult idiot who should and does know better and who had authority over her.  If he had any kind of sex with an under-aged girl, he is a pedophile and should go to prison, and I am being kind and merciful with what I think should be done with the scumbag.  I don't buy into the idea that some teenage girl is just as much to blame as Schaap.  I don't care how mature you think teenagers are, the truth is, the reason we have statutory rape laws is because most of them are too stupid and don't have the logic and common sense it takes to reason right and wrong and make these decisions for themselves.  This is the reason they are required to have parents and teachers to make those decisions for them.  Either way, it sure is improper to post a name of a molestation victim on  the internet, and so, good for Facebook for deleting the account of the jerk who did that in the middle of an investigation involving the FBI.  Further, it is really nothing more than gross, disgusting sinful gossip for someone to sit around speculating who the victim is, and what he heard they victim did as if it were some hot, juicy tabloid article.  It's disgusting.  Stop talking about it and start praying for the victim whoever it is.
 
BandGuy said:
brianb said:
or not. I had just read someone post it along with alleged information about the girl but his FB account had been deleted. I guess we`ll still have to wait for the FBI to finish their investigation.

But if what he said about her is true all I can say is wow. Allegedly this girl willingly had affairs with other middle aged men during and after the Schaap affair. Allegedly she even bragged to other students at her school (Hammond Baptist) about her affair with Schaap and would take pictures to prove it - well that certainly explain the photos - she probably sent the photos to others as well if all this is true of course.

Brian likes his gossip with extra caffeine:

13 Besides that, they learn to be idlers, going about from house to house, and not only idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying what they should not.

1 Timothy 5:13

I am not sure why we need to know who the victim was, what she has or has not done, or anything at all about her until the investigation is over.  I know there are plenty of people who disagree with me, but if she was a minor, It really doesn't matter to me what she did or did not do as to determining Schaap's guilt or innocence.  The bottom line for me is that she was a 16 year old stupid kid who doesn't know better and who was under his authority.  He was a stupid adult idiot who should and does know better and who had authority over her.  If he had any kind of sex with an under-aged girl, he is a pedophile and should go to prison, and I am being kind and merciful with what I think should be done with the scumbag.  I don't buy into the idea that some teenage girl is just as much to blame as Schaap.  I don't care how mature you think teenagers are, the truth is, the reason we have statutory rape laws is because most of them are too stupid and don't have the logic and common sense it takes to reason right and wrong and make these decisions for themselves.  This is the reason they are required to have parents and teachers to make those decisions for them.  Either way, it sure is improper to post a name of a molestation victim on  the internet, and so, good for Facebook for deleting the account of the jerk who did that in the middle of an investigation involving the FBI.  Further, it is really nothing more than gross, disgusting sinful gossip for someone to sit around speculating who the victim is, and what he heard they victim did as if it were some hot, juicy tabloid article.  It's disgusting.  Stop talking about it and start praying for the victim whoever it is.

The reason people want to know is so they can destroy her and defend Schaap, the pedophile.
 
Torrent v.2 said:
BandGuy said:
brianb said:
or not. I had just read someone post it along with alleged information about the girl but his FB account had been deleted. I guess we`ll still have to wait for the FBI to finish their investigation.

But if what he said about her is true all I can say is wow. Allegedly this girl willingly had affairs with other middle aged men during and after the Schaap affair. Allegedly she even bragged to other students at her school (Hammond Baptist) about her affair with Schaap and would take pictures to prove it - well that certainly explain the photos - she probably sent the photos to others as well if all this is true of course.

Brian likes his gossip with extra caffeine:

13 Besides that, they learn to be idlers, going about from house to house, and not only idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying what they should not.

1 Timothy 5:13

I am not sure why we need to know who the victim was, what she has or has not done, or anything at all about her until the investigation is over.  I know there are plenty of people who disagree with me, but if she was a minor, It really doesn't matter to me what she did or did not do as to determining Schaap's guilt or innocence.  The bottom line for me is that she was a 16 year old stupid kid who doesn't know better and who was under his authority.  He was a stupid adult idiot who should and does know better and who had authority over her.  If he had any kind of sex with an under-aged girl, he is a pedophile and should go to prison, and I am being kind and merciful with what I think should be done with the scumbag.  I don't buy into the idea that some teenage girl is just as much to blame as Schaap.  I don't care how mature you think teenagers are, the truth is, the reason we have statutory rape laws is because most of them are too stupid and don't have the logic and common sense it takes to reason right and wrong and make these decisions for themselves.  This is the reason they are required to have parents and teachers to make those decisions for them.  Either way, it sure is improper to post a name of a molestation victim on  the internet, and so, good for Facebook for deleting the account of the jerk who did that in the middle of an investigation involving the FBI.  Further, it is really nothing more than gross, disgusting sinful gossip for someone to sit around speculating who the victim is, and what he heard they victim did as if it were some hot, juicy tabloid article.  It's disgusting.  Stop talking about it and start praying for the victim whoever it is.

The reason people want to know is so they can destroy her and defend Schaap, the pedophile.

That's exactly why I decided not to reveal her name. I'm sorry I almost did when I posted a link. I thought maybe the media would tell us today. It looked very credible but it is only one person. It was on the same Facebook group that reported the whole incident to the media - Do Right Hyles Anderson which Voyle Glover and Jack Nischik post on - you probably know who they are.
 
The thread with the name was removed and anyone who reposts it is threatened with removal from the group.
 
Torrent v.2 said:
The thread with the name was removed and anyone who reposts it is threatened with removal from the group.

Yep.

Btw, anyone who thinks Jack Schaap is a victim is stupid. It's not like he's mentally challenged.
 
brianb said:
Torrent v.2 said:
The thread with the name was removed and anyone who reposts it is threatened with removal from the group.

Yep.

Btw, anyone who thinks Jack Schaap is a victim is stupid. It's not like he's mentally challenged.

I'm not so sure about that.  8)
 
Bob L said:
brianb said:
Torrent v.2 said:
The thread with the name was removed and anyone who reposts it is threatened with removal from the group.

Yep.

Btw, anyone who thinks Jack Schaap is a victim is stupid. It's not like he's mentally challenged.

I'm not so sure about that.  8)

Indeed. I've seen parts of his videos. I saw no evidence of intelligence in them. I don't think he's a victim, but he may be stupid.
 
The purpose is to give them biblical instruction, supervision,  direction, and to prepare them for adulthood when hopefully,  they will have had some life experience and not make childish decisions the rest of their lives like molesting children.  This ought to be obvious to most parents who see one stupid decision after another from their kids. 
 
Also, add to that so the young and naive (ie, stupid) will not be easily manipulated by atheists and heretics attempting to discount their faith.
 
In all the reports that I read online, it was alleged that the girl was receiving counseling for being abused.

Abused girls will display promiscuity sometimes.  If it is true that she had sex with other middle aged men, then their names need to be brought to authorities also. Who are these men who would be having sex with a young girl who has been abused? As for her "bragging" about it, because Pastor Schaap was hailed as super-pastor, and because it was alleged that she was trying to "prove" it to her peers, this - in her terribly warped mind of an abused female - would take away the shame of her abuse and present her in an exalted light right along with Pastor Schaap.  Twisted, huh.

You all have no idea what kind of illogical rationales go on in the minds of young people who have been molested and abused.
 
jayne said:
In all the reports that I read online, it was alleged that the girl was receiving counseling for being abused.

Abused girls will display promiscuity sometimes.  If it is true that she had sex with other middle aged men, then their names need to be brought to authorities also. Who are these men who would be having sex with a young girl who has been abused? As for her "bragging" about it, because Pastor Schaap was hailed as super-pastor, and because it was alleged that she was trying to "prove" it to her peers, this - in her terribly warped mind of an abused female - would take away the shame of her abuse and present her in an exalted light right along with Pastor Schaap.  Twisted, huh.

You all have no idea what kind of illogical rationales go on in the minds of young people who have been molested and abused.

Oh, but I do. I was sexually abused as a teenager.  I struggled for years.
 
ivannette said:
i became sexually active at age 13    by choice

TMI...but not unexpected cause you're an idiot!
 
ivannette said:
i realize    in the eyes of many    this is considered    damaged goods

Ain't we all?

The extent to which we all are damaged goods is the extent to which the gospel is the
power of God to salvation!
 
Agent P said:
ivannette said:
i realize    in the eyes of many    this is considered    damaged goods

Ain't we all?

The extent to which we all are damaged goods is the extent to which the gospel is the
power of God to salvation!

Let me hasten to add that this does not minimize in any way the horror or the evil of
what happened to you, Ivanette.
But none of us, NOT A ONE OF US, has the right to look down on you in any way due
to the sin in our own past and present.  We all need Jesus just as much.
 
brianb said:
or not. I had just read someone post it along with alleged information about the girl but his FB account had been deleted. I guess we`ll still have to wait for the FBI to finish their investigation.

But if what he said about her is true all I can say is wow. Allegedly this girl willingly had affairs with other middle aged men during and after the Schaap affair. Allegedly she even bragged to other students at her school (Hammond Baptist) about her affair with Schaap and would take pictures to prove it - well that certainly explain the photos - she probably sent the photos to others as well if all this is true of course.
We already know she's been sexually molested remember? Not sure your point here in starting this thread but the specifics of her past molestations and how she handled being violated is NOT something we should be privy to. We DO know she had courage, at the tender age of 17, to seek help to get healed. Instead of healing, she endured further sexual assaults.

And even after all this....she's working with the FBI to help lockup a child molester. She's my hero!
 
BandGuy said:
brianb said:
or not. I had just read someone post it along with alleged information about the girl but his FB account had been deleted. I guess we`ll still have to wait for the FBI to finish their investigation.

But if what he said about her is true all I can say is wow. Allegedly this girl willingly had affairs with other middle aged men during and after the Schaap affair. Allegedly she even bragged to other students at her school (Hammond Baptist) about her affair with Schaap and would take pictures to prove it - well that certainly explain the photos - she probably sent the photos to others as well if all this is true of course.

Brian likes his gossip with extra caffeine:

13 Besides that, they learn to be idlers, going about from house to house, and not only idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying what they should not.

1 Timothy 5:13

I am not sure why we need to know who the victim was, what she has or has not done, or anything at all about her until the investigation is over.  I know there are plenty of people who disagree with me, but if she was a minor, It really doesn't matter to me what she did or did not do as to determining Schaap's guilt or innocence.  The bottom line for me is that she was a 16 year old stupid kid who doesn't know better and who was under his authority.  He was a stupid adult idiot who should and does know better and who had authority over her.  If he had any kind of sex with an under-aged girl, he is a pedophile and should go to prison, and I am being kind and merciful with what I think should be done with the scumbag.  I don't buy into the idea that some teenage girl is just as much to blame as Schaap.  I don't care how mature you think teenagers are, the truth is, the reason we have statutory rape laws is because most of them are too stupid and don't have the logic and common sense it takes to reason right and wrong and make these decisions for themselves.  This is the reason they are required to have parents and teachers to make those decisions for them.  Either way, it sure is improper to post a name of a molestation victim on  the internet, and so, good for Facebook for deleting the account of the jerk who did that in the middle of an investigation involving the FBI.  Further, it is really nothing more than gross, disgusting sinful gossip for someone to sit around speculating who the victim is, and what he heard they victim did as if it were some hot, juicy tabloid article.  It's disgusting.  Stop talking about it and start praying for the victim whoever it is.
I guess I should have read thru the thread first before replying but the initial OP post hit a nerve. ^^What you said!
 
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