The most 'Post Christian' cities in America.

I think Barna's theology is influencing his questions. ;)

(#15 refers to his question. My city is way down the list.)
 
9. agree that Jesus committed sins

Since some don't believe in "sin" it should probably say mistakes or that Jesus was not perfect.
 
rsc2a said:
I think Barna's theology is influencing his questions. ;)

(#15 refers to his question. My city is way down the list.)
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He's too inclusive and focuses on deeds too much.
He must not think it matters whether one believes that Jesus is God or not - Salt Lake City is on the list and most people there are Mormon.
 
Goodness!  I counted up to 5 that could apply to many "faithful" Christians who attend church at least once each week:

7. have not donated money to a church (in the last year)
12. have not volunteered at church (in the last week)
13. have not attended Sunday school (in the last week)
14. have not attended religious small group (in the last week)
15. do not participate in a house church (in the last year)
 
aleshanee said:
i have a few observations on this...  :-\.....

1 .... either i;m going blind and can;t find my home town of honolulu, or any other city in hawaii, on the list.... ??? .
(i also couldn;t find any cities in alaska listed either...)

or... 2... hawaii is so super spiritual that none of it;s cities even qualify as post christian....  ???

or... 3...  all those cities listed have populations greater than the city of honolulu... (1 million)... and no hawaiian or alaskan city has a population that makes the cut... .

or...  4.... the survey group is stuck in the pre 1950s and hasn;t been informed yet that both alaska and hawaii are now part of the united states with cities that also qualify as "american".....  ::)

kinda hard to trust statistics that leave a city of 1 million people out of the mix... whether it made the cut or not.. . when it;s the only big city in existence for over 2000 miles in any direction... . . 

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Here's a 2011 survey regarding Hawaii....not sure why they don't include you in all of their work....
http://himonline.org/resources/the-state-of-faith-in-hawaii/
 
aleshanee said:
i have a few observations on this...  :-\.....

1 .... either i;m going blind and can;t find my home town of honolulu, or any other city in hawaii, on the list.... ??? .
(i also couldn;t find any cities in alaska listed either...)

or... 2... hawaii is so super spiritual that none of it;s cities even qualify as post christian....  ???

or... 3...  all those cities listed have populations greater than the city of honolulu... (1 million)... and no hawaiian or alaskan city has a population that makes the cut... .

or...  4.... the survey group is stuck in the pre 1950s and hasn;t been informed yet that both alaska and hawaii are now part of the united states with cities that also qualify as "american".....  ::)

kinda hard to trust statistics that leave a city of 1 million people out of the mix... whether it made the cut or not.. . when it;s the only big city in existence for over 2000 miles in any direction... . . 

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I'm thing #2. Yeah, that's it.
 
I'm surprised at the high ranking of San Diego. Politically it has been very conservative with a high density of military and defense industry (although the latter has declined over the last 20 years). Perhaps military areas are skewed as due to their transient nature they assimilate into churches to a smaller degree.

It would have been interesting to see Orange County, CA, located in the middle of LA County and San Diego County, as there are several of the largest mega-churches there and also very politically conservative.
 
I don't mean to pick a nit, but from looking at the questions and the results, it seems that the study is quite flawed.

A big part of the problem is that the questions are more weighted to 'church activity' than to questions of orthodox faith.  One could answer "yes" to questions 1,3,4,5,6 & 9 (and even 2 & 11) and still not fit the criteria as "post-christian."  Lest that seems far fetched, I know of several in PCUSA churches, who faithfully attend and serve, yet deny the Christian faith and have no remaining remnant of anything that could be considered "Christian."  Whereas there are others, who do not attend, serve, or place any importance on prayer and the scripture and, while they could not be considered Christian in the normative sense, still acknowledge basic Christian truths.

A couple of cities listed here I would consider strongly Christian (ex: Greenville SC & Grand Rapids).  While evidently there is a great number of unchurced, those who are faithful are far more likely to attend a sound, faithful, Bible-believing church (as opposed to other places like New Orleans or Las Vegas).

Appartently consideration is not made as to whether a person attends a Roman Catholic, PCUSA, or ultra-liberal church or something that is a lot more faithful.  And that constitutes a serious flaw, although not a surprising one from this source.
 
Here's a thought:

All of the IFB colleges are in one of the listed cities, or its suburbs.

I thought those colleges were the hope for America?  What about their own town?
Hmmmmm.........
 
Reformed Guy said:
I don't mean to pick a nit, but from looking at the questions and the results, it seems that the study is quite flawed.

A big part of the problem is that the questions are more weighted to 'church activity' than to questions of orthodox faith.  One could answer "yes" to questions 1,3,4,5,6 & 9 (and even 2 & 11) and still not fit the criteria as "post-christian."  Lest that seems far fetched, I know of several in PCUSA churches, who faithfully attend and serve, yet deny the Christian faith and have no remaining remnant of anything that could be considered "Christian."  Whereas there are others, who do not attend, serve, or place any importance on prayer and the scripture and, while they could not be considered Christian in the normative sense, still acknowledge basic Christian truths.

A couple of cities listed here I would consider strongly Christian (ex: Greenville SC & Grand Rapids).  While evidently there is a great number of unchurced, those who are faithful are far more likely to attend a sound, faithful, Bible-believing church (as opposed to other places like New Orleans or Las Vegas).

Appartently consideration is not made as to whether a person attends a Roman Catholic, PCUSA, or ultra-liberal church or something that is a lot more faithful.  And that constitutes a serious flaw, although not a surprising one from this source.
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I think you're exactly right...we've lowered the bar as to what defines a Christian and we're still rapidly becoming post Christian. The relevant, modern contemporary movement sometimes defines Christian as un-churched.....I know of plenty of church goers who are un-churched in the Biblically technical sense of the word.
 
Izdaari said:
Seattle, #13

I actually thought we'd rank higher on that list.
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Too many come as you are, believe like you wan'na believe, live like you wan'na live churches. :)
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
Izdaari said:
Seattle, #13

I actually thought we'd rank higher on that list.
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Too many come as you are, believe like you wan'na believe, live like you wan'na live churches. :)
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Is that a line from a Nirvana song?
I can't find the list of questions
 
Recovering IFB said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
Izdaari said:
Seattle, #13

I actually thought we'd rank higher on that list.
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Too many come as you are, believe like you wan'na believe, live like you wan'na live churches. :)
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Is that a line from a Nirvana song?
I can't find the list of questions
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Kurt Cobain...The Lost Album.... :D
 
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