The difference between this forum and KJV Onlyists

biscuit1953

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King James Onlyist forums will not allow discussion as here.  I have been banned for criticizing Peter Ruckman and I have yet to see a KJV forum that welcomes debate when it comes to challenging their idol translation.  Mitex can't complain too much.  It seems he has lost the debate though.
 
biscuit1953 said:
King James Onlyist forums will not allow discussion as here.  I have been banned for criticizing Peter Ruckman and I have yet to see a KJV forum that welcomes debate when it comes to challenging their idol translation.  Mitex can't complain too much.  It seems he has lost the debate though.

The other forums ban non KJVOs because it is the only way they can win an argument since the facts are against them.

KJVOs are not usually banned here unless they get nasty and vulgar. They can be mean and surly and not get banned.

Reading the crazy KJVOs arguments is a great form of entertainment and relaxation. It's just so much fun to watch the hypocrites squirm. I don't think they realize how silly they come across as they take themselves so seriously when they pretend to be great scholars of Bible translation and Bible interpretation.
 
christundivided said:
The Irony of it all, concerning Ruckman.
1. Ruckman  constantly attacks TULIP "hyper-Calvinism".
Ruckman is famous for his dispensational teaching, to the point of god status to some.

Ruck has no idea, that Darby, who invented modern dispensational teaching, did so in defence of Calvinism, during an anti-Cal uprising in his church.

2.The Pensecola Pimp is a wizard at finding the non-existent pre-trib cRapture everywhere he looks: Building on the foundation laid by C.I.Schofield, and Darby before him.

PR is the name, in which many under-informed KJVOers trust ;The English only, Reinspiration, cook crowd, you know.

But PR's heroes, the ones who brought him the doctrines, which he mastered, bringing himself worship: his heroes, Schofield and Darby, were the beloved AV's biggest critics.
Schofield put out a study Bible, which laments "poor translations", and the lack of access to Aleph, and B, at every turn of the page.
Schofield's notes at the beginning of IIThes. prove that he found it impossible to teach pre-trib using the AV. He claims that the theme of 2Thes is supposed to be an expose on the 2 different parts of the first resurrection, but that a mis-translation made them appear to be the same event.

Darby put out his own translation of the entire Bible, in English.  This would bring the Death penalty in Pensecola!

So the irony here reaches the proverbial ceiling.

Anishinaabe

 
admin said:
True! They can even call the admin all sorts of evil.

I like having them around. We will not moderate their lunacy. I want the whole world to see how they think and behave.

Just so the reader doesn't forget or misconstrue the context I'll re-post here:

Quote from: admin on January 08, 2014, 02:57:19 PM

    Charging God with sloppiness in the autographa puts you soundly in the realm of liberalism.

Please do not misrepresent my unequivocal beliefs as stated concisely and clearly above.

Your attitude towards and attacks upon the extant Scriptures identify you as a skeptic, critic and purveyor of doubt of the word of God. When you insist that archaic or obsolete words are "proof of error" it calls into question the very words of God as found in the Scriptures in any generation or language, including the original. When you call for people "to abandon the English Scriptures" it places you in the realm of skeptics. When you make up silly and self-contradicting phrases like, "Scripture is Scripture, even with errors" it places you in the realm of the silly, weak-minded and ridiculous. When you continue to insist that your self-contradicting phrase applies to all extant Scripture, but never ever to your unidentifiable non-extant autograph it places you in the realm of inconsistent superstitious zealots overcome by their brand of "Onlyism". When you insist that the extant Scriptures are in error, because they don't follow the original, knowing full well "the original" is no longer extant, it places you in the realm of deceptive equivocators hell-bent on causing the plow-boys of our day to doubt and disbelieve all the words of their God given Bibles. Your contempt for the liberal, who, like you doubts some of the words of the extant Scriptures, but not all of them, puts you in the realm of hypocrites. The difference between you and the liberal is word count. Be of good cheer, you stand in the grand company of Thomas Jefferson.

Let the reader be clear in our positions:
My position states unequivocally that the extant Scriptures, by virtue of being the Scriptures are indeed given by inspiration of God and thus perfect, pure, infallible, without error - true in all parts - and the final authority in all matters of faith and practice. The extant Scriptures in any language or generation is completely trustworthy and to be received without doubting. The Scriptures - given by inspiration of God - are available, can and should be believed, read, searched, preached and trusted.

Your position is diametrically opposed to mine. You don't believe any extant Scripture "is given by inspiration of God", that all extant Scriptures are replete with errors, that no extant Scripture is completely trustworthy. You obviously don't stand with Bunyan, but rather clearly with the scholar calling for the cessation of the preaching of Bunyan's English Bible having divorced yourself from it long ago. It is your stated mission to take over churches founded and built by belief in Bunyan's Bible and replace Bunyan's Bible with your modern preference.  Of course, your modern preference is also, according to you, "replete with errors" and not to be trusted completely either, but in your scholar's world anything is better than Bunyan's Bible. You will continue to find fault with all the extant Scriptures with your non-extant unidentifiable original based upon your private interpretation.

When your britches cool off we'll continue.

Barry, falsely accuses me of "charging God with sloppiness in the autographa" and then after erecting his libelous scarecrow he attempts to place me in the "realm of liberalism".  Barry, has a very difficult time in getting his facts straight and an even harder time in quoting correctly. I thought the reader might like to know that exact source and context of the original post from which Barry drew offense and took neither correction nor repented.

Barry can now correct is signature line for the actual quote - since he missed it the first time.
 
[quote author=admin]Just using the very words you used about the autographa. There were no spelling or grammatical errors when the Holy Spirit superintended the original composition.

Liberals have allowed for and developed a rationale that God allowed errors. That is why Warfield gave us the term "inerrant" and why conservative theologians have always insisted that the autographa are without error.

I agree that the biblical terminology "pure" "perfect" are not about errors. But errors continue to bother you.

You carry liberal baggage. You need to shed it. Until you do, I will bring attention to it.[/quote]

You forgot to start your post with "gentle reader". You need to work on being more condescending. ;)
 
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