Sociopaths or Psychopaths

[bgwilkinson]

Here is an interesting article on IFBs.

Sociopaths  is one of the subheads and I thought it said Psychopaths just look at the pic under the heading.
It is enough to give you the creeps.

"This is a standard psychological term to describe what I believe is what the Bible describes as the fool “nabal”.  Because hyper-Fundamentalism in particular is so full of people with weak consciences and weak minds, it is the perfect environment for sociopaths to find a place of leadership and success."



http://offthereservationjournal.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/four-psychological-catagories-of-ifb-lifers/

 

[brainisengaged]

I read that article as well, last night. If one can get past feeling offended, one may admit falling into one of the four categories, even if only partially. I will admit to falling into the second category - People of Weak Minds.

I got saved as an adult, fresh out of college with a bachelors and masters degree in my field of expertise. Once saved, I turned my back on everything I'd ever known. Career, family, friends, education. I immersed myself in my newfound world of Independent Fundamentalism.

Being plunged into the IFB world was pure culture shock. I'd never experienced anything like it and it still feels a bit like an immersion field study even after nearly 30 years.

Weak Minded aptly describes (described) me. I blindly trusted, immediately upon accepting Christ, that the people who brought me to a saved eternity must have a hold on all truth, no matter how foreign to me. I accepted that the life I'd lived before salvation was heathen and therefore completely wrong. I understood that no matter what I might think, my thoughts were wrong because they were formed on the basis of who I once was...I knew I had to embrace this new world and I understood it would take time to erase who I once was. I was willing to erase her.

I remember saying time and time and time again: Tell me what to think on this or that subject, and I'll believe it. I NEVER investigated anything for myself. I let the traditions of the IFB culture become my belief system. I figured that other people had taken the time and had had the enlightenment to figure things out, so I didn't need to figure anything out, just trust what they told me. I truly honestly believed I was doing the exact right thing and following this system of belief was the only way to please God.

Honestly, from my own perspective, the JS scandal was the best thing that ever could have happened. It woke me up out of my trance and got me started on the path to thinking, investigating, purging, etc.

It is a hard pill to swallow, though, when I look back at my life and now realize how many years the locusts have eaten.

So, reading this article was a little bit of *ouch*, but I think there is merit to his categories. As someone who has scratched her head for nearly 30 years at how people can march in to every church service, declare every sermon to be the 'greatest they've ever heard', how they can hear the same few subjects spoken on or statements made over and over and declare them to be life-changing and revelatory...

 

[Fresh Air]

Here is an interesting article on IFBs.

Sociopaths  is one of the subheads and I thought it said Psychopaths just look at the pic under the heading.
It is enough to give you the creeps.

"This is a standard psychological term to describe what I believe is what the Bible describes as the fool “nabal”.  Because hyper-Fundamentalism in particular is so full of people with weak consciences and weak minds, it is the perfect environment for sociopaths to find a place of leadership and success."



http://offthereservationjournal.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/four-psychological-catagories-of-ifb-lifers/

mock on

 

[Bravo]

Here is an interesting article on IFBs.

Sociopaths  is one of the subheads and I thought it said Psychopaths just look at the pic under the heading.
It is enough to give you the creeps.

"This is a standard psychological term to describe what I believe is what the Bible describes as the fool “nabal”.  Because hyper-Fundamentalism in particular is so full of people with weak consciences and weak minds, it is the perfect environment for sociopaths to find a place of leadership and success."



http://offthereservationjournal.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/four-psychological-catagories-of-ifb-lifers/

mock on

I have not yet read the article so I am not sure what your two words are referring to?

 

[Fresh Air]

I have not yet read the article so I am not sure what your two words are referring to?

Uh, let's see. He asserts that the majority of those who are IFB have either a weak mind or conscience, or are a sociopath or a predator. There is no grace here. There is no balance here. There is no room for the fact that perhaps, just perhaps, maybe, we have actually studied our position rather than swallowed it whole. There is only attack, mockery, denigration, criticism, and pejorative descriptions.

...ergo, he is simply mocking. Let him mock on.

 

[Bravo]

I have not yet read the article so I am not sure what your two words are referring to?

Uh, let's see. He asserts that the majority of those who are IFB have either a weak mind or conscience, or are a sociopath or a predator. There is no grace here. There is no balance here. There is no room for the fact that perhaps, just perhaps, maybe, we have actually studied our position rather than swallowed it whole. There is only attack, mockery, denigration, criticism, and pejorative descriptions.

...ergo, he is simply mocking. Let him mock on.

In other words he sounds just like what he is criticizing?

 

[subllibrm]

Here is an interesting article on IFBs.

Sociopaths  is one of the subheads and I thought it said Psychopaths just look at the pic under the heading.
It is enough to give you the creeps.

"This is a standard psychological term to describe what I believe is what the Bible describes as the fool “nabal”.  Because hyper-Fundamentalism in particular is so full of people with weak consciences and weak minds, it is the perfect environment for sociopaths to find a place of leadership and success."



http://offthereservationjournal.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/four-psychological-catagories-of-ifb-lifers/

mock on

I didn't see mocking. If I want to see mocking I pull up an old Frag post.

 

[prophet]

Just a reminder...

Psychology is a system of study developed by twisted sick sex pervert: Sigmund Freud, and mystic: Carl Jung.
Jung, who founded analytical psychology, actually believed that mysticism was scientific, and he devoted his life to the study of it.

So, although some of his analysis hits home, like Plato's 'temperments', it is built on a faulty premise, and so can never arrive at a useful conclusion.

A small square peg may fit in a large round hole, but that doesnt make it the proper place for the peg.

Anishinaabe

 

[Holy Mole]

Here is an interesting article on IFBs.

Sociopaths  is one of the subheads and I thought it said Psychopaths just look at the pic under the heading.
It is enough to give you the creeps.




"This is a standard psychological term to describe what I believe is what the Bible describes as the fool “nabal”.  Because hyper-Fundamentalism in particular is so full of people with weak consciences and weak minds, it is the perfect environment for sociopaths to find a place of leadership and success."



http://offthereservationjournal.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/four-psychological-catagories-of-ifb-lifers/

There were some interesting thoughts, but, in my opinion, he sounded far more IFB than he would ever admit to.
His first blob of writing, which was poorly structured, included the the word "I" at least a dozen times. He also made harsh inflexible psychological judgments and diagnosis on topics and people that he did not seem educated or qualified enough to make.

 

[Mathew Ward]

I have not yet read the article so I am not sure what your two words are referring to?

Uh, let's see. He asserts that the majority of those who are IFB have either a weak mind or conscience, or are a sociopath or a predator. There is no grace here. There is no balance here. There is no room for the fact that perhaps, just perhaps, maybe, we have actually studied our position rather than swallowed it whole. There is only attack, mockery, denigration, criticism, and pejorative descriptions.

...ergo, he is simply mocking. Let him mock on.

Guilt, fear and intimidation are right out of the IFBx playbook (hyper fundamentalism as he calls it).

"The fear of using another Bible version, the fear of becoming new-Evangelical, the fear of being worldly, the fear of losing their kids to the devil, the fear of the public school system, the fear of contemporary music and the list goes on almost endlessly. Because the liberating freedom of the gospel is not preached or taught in their churches, they stick with what they are taught is the most conservative, holiest and safest place for them and their families."

As far as the IFBx'er way of life, most see it through their IFBx'er bias and interpret Scripture accordingly (imho).

 

[BALAAM]

I have not yet read the article so I am not sure what your two words are referring to?

Uh, let's see. He asserts that the majority of those who are IFB have either a weak mind or conscience, or are a sociopath or a predator. There is no grace here. There is no balance here. There is no room for the fact that perhaps, just perhaps, maybe, we have actually studied our position rather than swallowed it whole. There is only attack, mockery, denigration, criticism, and pejorative descriptions.

...ergo, he is simply mocking. Let him mock on.

A Bob Gray in revers! Only a little kinder.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

It’s really my weakness that is attracted to manipulation and control.

I think that’s what I’m starting to see. But here’s the problem:

When weakness and strength are drawn to one another, the relationship is bound to collapse in on itself.

At first, the “weak” person (or the person who plays weakness) can rely on the “strong” person (or the person who projects strength) to do everything for them. But when a relationship is born out of this place—one person as the victim and the other as the hero—it relies on this dynamic to stay alive.

If the dynamic is ever threatened (if the strong person feels weak, or the weak person feels strong) the relationship will cave in on itself.

It’s inevitable.

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