Should I go to jail for this?

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If I was armed and doing a neighborhood watch thing, and the guy I was following attacked me, pinned me to the ground, and started beating my head in, I would fear that I might get knocked out, after which anything could happen, including my own death. 

I would call out for help, but if there was no immediate response, and I couldn't get out from under this guy, I'd pull out my gun and shoot him.  I would try not to shoot him in the heart if I could control myself, but honestly, if I was in a panic, I probably wouldn't be able to have the presence of mind to aim well.  So there's a chance my assailant would die. 

Given the Florida laws, should I go to jail for that? 

 
Castor Muscular said:
If I was armed and doing a neighborhood watch thing, and the guy I was following attacked me, pinned me to the ground, and started beating my head in, I would fear that I might get knocked out, after which anything could happen, including my own death. 

I would call out for help, but if there was no immediate response, and I couldn't get out from under this guy, I'd pull out my gun and shoot him.  I would try not to shoot him in the heart if I could control myself, but honestly, if I was in a panic, I probably wouldn't be able to have the presence of mind to aim well.  So there's a chance my assailant would die. 

Given the Florida laws, should I go to jail for that?

Only if you violently protested law enforcement's direction to not make contact with the person.
 
graceandtruth said:
Castor Muscular said:
If I was armed and doing a neighborhood watch thing, and the guy I was following attacked me, pinned me to the ground, and started beating my head in, I would fear that I might get knocked out, after which anything could happen, including my own death. 

I would call out for help, but if there was no immediate response, and I couldn't get out from under this guy, I'd pull out my gun and shoot him.  I would try not to shoot him in the heart if I could control myself, but honestly, if I was in a panic, I probably wouldn't be able to have the presence of mind to aim well.  So there's a chance my assailant would die. 

Given the Florida laws, should I go to jail for that?

Only if you violently protested law enforcement's direction to not make contact with the person.

911 operator ≠ LEO
 
graceandtruth said:
Castor Muscular said:
If I was armed and doing a neighborhood watch thing, and the guy I was following attacked me, pinned me to the ground, and started beating my head in, I would fear that I might get knocked out, after which anything could happen, including my own death. 

I would call out for help, but if there was no immediate response, and I couldn't get out from under this guy, I'd pull out my gun and shoot him.  I would try not to shoot him in the heart if I could control myself, but honestly, if I was in a panic, I probably wouldn't be able to have the presence of mind to aim well.  So there's a chance my assailant would die. 

Given the Florida laws, should I go to jail for that?

Only if you violently protested law enforcement's direction to not make contact with the person.

So I should go to jail because you can pull fake facts and laws out your butt. 
 
Castor I hope you are really young so that would explain the level of immaturity being shown.

Let me answer your question to your satisfaction.  No you would not go to jail. 

rsc2a our 911 dispatchers are parish deputies complete with badges and guns.  So it is ignoring law enforcement here.
 
graceandtruth, how would you feel about the Zimmerman case if the guy he shot was a white twentysomething?
 
Ransom said:
graceandtruth, how would you feel about the Zimmerman case if the guy he shot was a white twentysomething?

I would feel that GZ created the situation and is responsible for the outcome.  I think a better question would have been what would I feel if the victim had been a white 17 year old.  I would feel that the adult should be prosecuted for killing an unarmed child after he approached the child and created a volatile situation.
 
graceandtruth said:
Ransom said:
graceandtruth, how would you feel about the Zimmerman case if the guy he shot was a white twentysomething?

I would feel that GZ created the situation and is responsible for the outcome.  I think a better question would have been what would I feel if the victim had been a white 17 year old.  I would feel that the adult should be prosecuted for killing an unarmed child after he approached the child and created a volatile situation.

The evidence doesn't support any of your assumptions. 

1. No law enforcement agency told Zimmerman not to follow Trayvon.  Stop saying things like that.  It is a LIE.  A 911 operator said "We don't need you to do that."  That is a fact.  It is a recorded fact.  We don't even know for sure what Zimmerman did after that. 

2. Following someone does not create a volatile situation unless the person being followed is guilty of something, paranoid, easily agitated, or prone to pick a fight.  In which case it is not the follower who makes the situation volatile.  It is the person being followed. 

One thing that many seem to forget is THIS WAS ZIMMERMAN'S NEIGHBORHOOD, too.  He had every right to be there and walk anywhere he wanted.  So did Trayvon have the right to be there and walk anywhere he wanted.  Neither one of them had the right to ATTACK the other person.  Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, possibly even because he was a "creepy-ass cracker".  So Trayvon not only created the volatile situation, but he may have done so purely out of anti-white racism. 

3. Trayvon was not a child.  He was 17 years old, strong, and proficient at fighting.  Apparently more proficient at fighting than Zimmerman was.  If he had me on the ground pounding my head into the cement, I wouldn't give a crap how old he was.  All I'd have to decide is, can I get out of this alive, or not?  And if there's a risk I won't, what do I have to do? 

The funny thing is that, according to the law, Zimmerman wouldn't even have to consider if he could get out of it alive or not.  That's the point of the stand-your-ground law.  In addition, Zimmerman wouldn't have to have a scratch on his pinky finger.  All he'd have to have is the perception that he was in danger of bodily harm or death, in which case he has the LEGAL RIGHT to use deadly force. 

The injuries are simply icing on the proverbial cake.  Unless someone could step up and prove that Zimmerman attacked Trayvon first, it should be a slam dunk decision.  Not guilty. 

graceandtruth said:
Let me answer your question to your satisfaction.  No you would not go to jail.

The question was, SHOULD I go to jail?  If not, then neither should Zimmerman.  You notice I didn't mention race in my hypothetical scenario.  Race has nothing to do with this. 

 
graceandtruth said:
Castor Muscular said:
If I was armed and doing a neighborhood watch thing, and the guy I was following attacked me, pinned me to the ground, and started beating my head in, I would fear that I might get knocked out, after which anything could happen, including my own death. 

I would call out for help, but if there was no immediate response, and I couldn't get out from under this guy, I'd pull out my gun and shoot him.  I would try not to shoot him in the heart if I could control myself, but honestly, if I was in a panic, I probably wouldn't be able to have the presence of mind to aim well.  So there's a chance my assailant would die. 

Given the Florida laws, should I go to jail for that?

Only if you violently protested law enforcement's direction to not make contact with the person.

You're such a blatant liar. "law enforcement" tell him not to make contact.... and it was Martin that made contact.

Besides.... I can remember you objecting to a young black man get pinned to the ground for not obeying law enforcement. You're such a two faced hypocrite.
 
graceandtruth said:
Castor I hope you are really young so that would explain the level of immaturity being shown.

Let me answer your question to your satisfaction.  No you would not go to jail. 

rsc2a our 911 dispatchers are parish deputies complete with badges and guns.  So it is ignoring law enforcement here.

So what goes on in your neck of the woods is what goes on everywhere. I wouldn't be talking abut immaturity if I were you.

Go ahead and say what you really want to say. You really want call someone creepy ass cracker don't you? It right at the tip of your fingers. Since you're so much like NO LIMIT... you can't help it. Go to  church Sunday get the your congregation involved. Pray for us creepy ass crackers.
 
graceandtruth said:
Definitely praying for you CU.  LOL

Sure. While you're at it. Call down some angels to execute God's judgement on all these racist in the forum.
 
christundivided said:
graceandtruth said:
Definitely praying for you CU.  LOL

Sure. While you're at it. Call down some angels to execute God's judgement on all these racist in the forum.

Sorry that would not be in keeping with the Spirit of Christ..... :D
 
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