Sally Ride: The Posthumous Gay Advocate

[ALAYMAN]

"Sally Ride was the first American woman to go into space and she was my big sister. Sally died peacefully on July 23rd after a courageous 17-month battle with pancreatic cancer.  I was at her side. We grew up in Encino, CA. Our parents, Joyce and Dale Ride, encouraged us to study hard, to do our best and to be anything we wanted to be.  In 1983 Newsweek quoted our father as saying, 'We might have encouraged, but mostly we just let them explore.' Our parents encouraged us to be curious, to keep our minds and hearts open and to respect all persons as children of God. Our parents taught us to explore, and we did. Sally studied science and I went to seminary. She became an astronaut and I was ordained as a Presbyterian minister.

"Sally lived her life to the fullest with boundless energy, curiosity, intelligence, passion, joy, and love. Her integrity was absolute; her spirit was immeasurable; her approach to life was fearless. Sally died the same way she lived: without fear.  Sally's signature statement was 'Reach for the Stars.' Surely she did this, and she blazed a trail for all the rest of us.

"My sister was a very private person. Sally had a very fundamental sense of privacy, it was just her nature, because we're Norwegians, through and through. People did not know she had pancreatic cancer, this is bound to be a huge shock. For 17 months, nobody knew, and everyone does now. Her memorial fund is going to be in support of pancreatic cancer.

"Most people did not know that Sally had a wonderfully loving relationship with Tam O'Shaughnessy for 27 years.  Sally never hid her relationship with Tam. They were partners, business partners in Sally Ride Science, they wrote books together, and Sally's very close friends, of course, knew of their love for each other.  We consider Tam a member of our family.

"I hope the pancreatic cancer community is going to be absolutely thrilled that there's now this advocate that they didn't know about.  And, I hope the GLBT community feels the same. I hope it makes it easier for kids growing up gay that they know that another one of their heroes was like them."

Their parents must be proud of their "children of God".

 

[christundivided]

to respect all persons as children of God.

Obviously.... the GBLT crowd doesn't respect all people. They hope those that oppose such lifestyles would drop off in hell tomorrow.

Its also rather obvious that she was ashamed of her relationship with "Tam". Why do such people always use the "I'm a private person" to hide their true feelings? You don't "hide" a lover unless you don't want most people to know. You don't hide your relationship so only "close friends" know.....

I wonder what happened to "Tam" when she married Steve Hawley? It must have made "Tam" so proud......

Talk about dysfunctional. Looks like her family is trying to memorialize her beyond her actual accomplishments in space.

I do wonder.... if she is so private.... Why would the family violate her privacy after she is dead? It just doesn't add up. Then again... it never does in relationships like this.

 

[Miller]

If my child were a homosexual and had accomplished what Dr. Sally Ride had I can guarantee you that I would be proud of him or her. All the while I would still be praying for his or her salvation. I guess I am simply better at compartmentalizing than some others.

 

[christundivided]

If my child were a homosexual and had accomplished what Dr. Sally Ride had I can guarantee you that I would be proud of him or her. All the while I would still be praying for his or her salvation. I guess I am simply better at compartmentalizing than some others.

I would have been proud as well, but my pride would be short lived when they face God with their choices.

Sincere question. I pray for my children. I love them...but, wouldn't it do them a great disservice to ignore their sin and simply relegate yourself to "prayer" to help change them?

You know there is a reason the Scriptures talk of withdrawing ones self from those that sin that they might be ashamed. (2 Thes 3:14). We become far too accustom to "accepting people as they are or choose to be".

 

[jimmudcatgrant]

If my child were a homosexual and had accomplished what Dr. Sally Ride had I can guarantee you that I would be proud of him or her. All the while I would still be praying for his or her salvation. I guess I am simply better at compartmentalizing than some others.

I would have been proud as well, but my pride would be short lived when they face God with their choices.

Sincere question. I pray for my children. I love them...but, wouldn't it do them a great disservice to ignore their sin and simply relegate yourself to "prayer" to help change them?

You know there is a reason the Scriptures talk of withdrawing ones self from those that sin that they might be ashamed. (2 Thes 3:14). We become far too accustom to "accepting people as they are or choose to be".

Well, first, you have to know whether they are saved or not.  If not, then 2 Thess 3:14 doesn't apply.

 

[christundivided]

If my child were a homosexual and had accomplished what Dr. Sally Ride had I can guarantee you that I would be proud of him or her. All the while I would still be praying for his or her salvation. I guess I am simply better at compartmentalizing than some others.

I would have been proud as well, but my pride would be short lived when they face God with their choices.

Sincere question. I pray for my children. I love them...but, wouldn't it do them a great disservice to ignore their sin and simply relegate yourself to "prayer" to help change them?

You know there is a reason the Scriptures talk of withdrawing ones self from those that sin that they might be ashamed. (2 Thes 3:14). We become far too accustom to "accepting people as they are or choose to be".

Well, first, you have to know whether they are saved or not.  If not, then 2 Thess 3:14 doesn't apply.

Sure it does. Maybe you should pay attention to the words "any man". The apostles well knew that there were many among that were not saved. Regardless of their position in Christ, it was there duty to behave a particular away among those in which they fellow shipped.

 

[brianb]

I found this (link) interesting.
http://www.mygenes.co.nz/PDFs/Ch12.pdf

 

[jimmudcatgrant]

If my child were a homosexual and had accomplished what Dr. Sally Ride had I can guarantee you that I would be proud of him or her. All the while I would still be praying for his or her salvation. I guess I am simply better at compartmentalizing than some others.

I would have been proud as well, but my pride would be short lived when they face God with their choices.

Sincere question. I pray for my children. I love them...but, wouldn't it do them a great disservice to ignore their sin and simply relegate yourself to "prayer" to help change them?

You know there is a reason the Scriptures talk of withdrawing ones self from those that sin that they might be ashamed. (2 Thes 3:14). We become far too accustom to "accepting people as they are or choose to be".

Well, first, you have to know whether they are saved or not.  If not, then 2 Thess 3:14 doesn't apply.

Sure it does. Maybe you should pay attention to the words "any man". The apostles well knew that there were many among that were not saved. Regardless of their position in Christ, it was there duty to behave a particular away among those in which they fellow shipped.

No, clearly the scripture was concerning saved people.  look again at these 3 verses, not just the one:

2 Thessalonians 3:13-15 (KJV)
13 But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing.
14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

The words brethren and brother clearly tell me that the scripture refers to Christians.  Why would you treat a lost person as saved?

 

[christundivided]

If my child were a homosexual and had accomplished what Dr. Sally Ride had I can guarantee you that I would be proud of him or her. All the while I would still be praying for his or her salvation. I guess I am simply better at compartmentalizing than some others.

I would have been proud as well, but my pride would be short lived when they face God with their choices.

Sincere question. I pray for my children. I love them...but, wouldn't it do them a great disservice to ignore their sin and simply relegate yourself to "prayer" to help change them?

You know there is a reason the Scriptures talk of withdrawing ones self from those that sin that they might be ashamed. (2 Thes 3:14). We become far too accustom to "accepting people as they are or choose to be".

Well, first, you have to know whether they are saved or not.  If not, then 2 Thess 3:14 doesn't apply.

Sure it does. Maybe you should pay attention to the words "any man". The apostles well knew that there were many among that were not saved. Regardless of their position in Christ, it was there duty to behave a particular away among those in which they fellow shipped.

No, clearly the scripture was concerning saved people.  look again at these 3 verses, not just the one:

2 Thessalonians 3:13-15 (KJV)
13 But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing.
14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

The words brethren and brother clearly tell me that the scripture refers to Christians.  Why would you treat a lost person as saved?

It those within fellowship but not necessarily those that are saved. If you consider such to be only for the family of God... why would you deny such be applicable to one's own "family"?

However, you are losing tract of meaning with your pursuit to only see this applicable to those that are truly saved.

There are many Scriptures that witness to our separation from evil deeds as being light/salt to those in need. Remember any others? Here's one...

1Ti 6:5  Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.






 

 

[Castor Muscular]

I thought divorce was the unforgivable sin.  Has that changed to homosexuality, or is it both, now?

 

[christundivided]

I thought divorce was the unforgivable sin.  Has that changed to homosexuality, or is it both, now?

Sure homosexuality can be forgiven for those who seek it. I personally haven't seen too many homosexuals seeking it. However, I have seen many homosexuals trying to say it not sin at all.

Divorce is justifiable in certain circumstances....BUT..... Is homosexuality justifiable in any circumstance?

 

[HeDied4U]

to respect all persons as children of God.

Obviously.... the GBLT crowd doesn't respect all people. They hope those that oppose such lifestyles would drop off in hell tomorrow.

Its also rather obvious that she was ashamed of her relationship with "Tam". Why do such people always use the "I'm a private person" to hide their true feelings? You don't "hide" a lover unless you don't want most people to know. You don't hide your relationship so only "close friends" know.....

I wonder what happened to "Tam" when she married Steve Hawley? It must have made "Tam" so proud......

Talk about dysfunctional. Looks like her family is trying to memorialize her beyond her actual accomplishments in space.

I do wonder.... if she is so private.... Why would the family violate her privacy after she is dead? It just doesn't add up. Then again... it never does in relationships like this.

Well said!!

 

[T-Bone]

Yeah seems somebodies sister has an agenda, and is choosing to make a bigger deal of her sister's orientation in death than she wanted in life...curious.

 

[Agent P]

Yeah seems somebodies sister has an agenda, and is choosing to make a bigger deal of her sister's orientation in death than she wanted in life...curious.

They're also attempting to posthumously out Sherman "George Jefferson" Hemsley.

 

[ALAYMAN]

I thought divorce was the unforgivable sin.  Has that changed to homosexuality, or is it both, now?

Ya sorta jumped the shark here.  Who said, or from what did you infer, that the sin of homosexuality was unpardonable? 

Tbone pretty much nailed my thoughts on the matter.  Seems like the sister is using her dead loved one for her own cause.