Pete Cowling

[Willis Athey]

Over the last couple years there have been rumblings regarding Pete Cowling and a college student from the 80's. Anybody have any information on that situation?


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[qwerty]

Over the last couple years there have been rumblings regarding Pete Cowling and a college student from the 80's. Anybody have any information on that situation?


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Rumblings? Was she a fat girl that fell in the hall? Did Pete push her?

 

[Twisted]

Over the last couple years there have been rumblings regarding Pete Cowling and a college student from the 80's. Anybody have any information on that situation?

Rumblings? Was she a fat girl that fell in the hall?

CF fell down?

 

[Willis Athey]

Over the last couple years there have been rumblings regarding Pete Cowling and a college student from the 80's. Anybody have any information on that situation?


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Rumblings? Was she a fat girl that fell in the hall? Did Pete push her?

Nah. There's a letter making its rounds out there--just seeing if anyone has any good information. You obviously don't so thanks anyway.


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[TidesofTruth]

The accuser was quite vague about what she thought was some kind of abuse.  Then it became a accusation of some kind of grooming "as she remembers back".

Nothing ever came of it but collaboration with the Do Righters and a throw in with JER.

 

[qwerty]

The accuser was quite vague about what she thought was some kind of abuse.  Then it became a accusation of some kind of grooming "as she remembers back".

Nothing ever came of it but collaboration with the Do Righters and a throw in with JER.

Oh...the Do righters.....  Thought I smelled something foul.

 

[Willis Athey]

The accuser was quite vague about what she thought was some kind of abuse.  Then it became a accusation of some kind of grooming "as she remembers back".

Nothing ever came of it but collaboration with the Do Righters and a throw in with JER.

Was this the girl, Katie or Kathy, that was even in some family pictures with the Cowlings? I remember some in the family even referred to her as a "sister" of sorts. Do you know how long this gal lived with the Cowlings? You seem like somebody "in the know" with the Cowlings!  You could really help break this case wide open!


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[Teri in NC]

The accuser was quite vague about what she thought was some kind of abuse.  Then it became a accusation of some kind of grooming "as she remembers back".

Nothing ever came of it but collaboration with the Do Righters and a throw in with JER.

Your first sentence leads me to believe that you do know the story of the "I think he said something" but there was never official accusation of any abuse.

Your second sentence leads me to believe that you are obsessed with putting JER in a negative light and blame victims.

Forgive me if I am wrong on either account.

 

[TidesofTruth]

The accuser was quite vague about what she thought was some kind of abuse.  Then it became a accusation of some kind of grooming "as she remembers back".

Nothing ever came of it but collaboration with the Do Righters and a throw in with JER.

Your first sentence leads me to believe that you do know the story of the "I think he said something" but there was never official accusation of any abuse.

Your second sentence leads me to believe that you are obsessed with putting JER in a negative light and blame victims.

Forgive me if I am wrong on either account.

I don't understand what you are saying in the first sentence.  And as to the second part I was simply stating that she joined with JER in working on the legislation stuff.  That part wasn't a negative light although some of my other posts I believe could be construed that way by some and others would just tell you I was being honest.

 

[Teri in NC]

The accuser was quite vague about what she thought was some kind of abuse.  Then it became a accusation of some kind of grooming "as she remembers back".

Nothing ever came of it but collaboration with the Do Righters and a throw in with JER.

Your first sentence leads me to believe that you do know the story of the "I think he said something" but there was never official accusation of any abuse.

Your second sentence leads me to believe that you are obsessed with putting JER in a negative light and blame victims.

Forgive me if I am wrong on either account.

I don't understand what you are saying in the first sentence.  And as to the second part I was simply stating that she joined with JER in working on the legislation stuff.  That part wasn't a negative light although some of my other posts I believe could be construed that way by some and others would just tell you I was being honest.

KH claimed PC 'said something' to her, but she never officially accused him of any other type of abuse.

She is no longer involved with the non-profit that Joy started.  Yes, some of your previous posts made me think you blame Joy for what happened.  One post even stated that her use of the term rape upsets you. 

 

[TidesofTruth]

The accuser was quite vague about what she thought was some kind of abuse.  Then it became a accusation of some kind of grooming "as she remembers back".

Nothing ever came of it but collaboration with the Do Righters and a throw in with JER.

Your first sentence leads me to believe that you do know the story of the "I think he said something" but there was never official accusation of any abuse.

Your second sentence leads me to believe that you are obsessed with putting JER in a negative light and blame victims.

Forgive me if I am wrong on either account.

I don't understand what you are saying in the first sentence.  And as to the second part I was simply stating that she joined with JER in working on the legislation stuff.  That part wasn't a negative light although some of my other posts I believe could be construed that way by some and others would just tell you I was being honest.

KH claimed PC 'said something' to her, but she never officially accused him of any other type of abuse.

She is no longer involved with the non-profit that Joy started.  Yes, some of your previous posts made me think you blame Joy for what happened.  One post even stated that her use of the term rape upsets you.

Because My wife was actually raped as a child until 9 years old and horribly abused beyond most people's comprehension.  I know what that looks like.  And I also know Joy's story.  They look no where near the same.  And YES IT ANGERS ME!!!  I also know the rest of the story and it is as sad as the first of it.  Same ole same ole.

 

[Willis Athey]

The accuser was quite vague about what she thought was some kind of abuse.  Then it became a accusation of some kind of grooming "as she remembers back".

Nothing ever came of it but collaboration with the Do Righters and a throw in with JER.

Your first sentence leads me to believe that you do know the story of the "I think he said something" but there was never official accusation of any abuse.

Your second sentence leads me to believe that you are obsessed with putting JER in a negative light and blame victims.

Forgive me if I am wrong on either account.

I don't understand what you are saying in the first sentence.  And as to the second part I was simply stating that she joined with JER in working on the legislation stuff.  That part wasn't a negative light although some of my other posts I believe could be construed that way by some and others would just tell you I was being honest.

KH claimed PC 'said something' to her, but she never officially accused him of any other type of abuse.

She is no longer involved with the non-profit that Joy started.  Yes, some of your previous posts made me think you blame Joy for what happened.  One post even stated that her use of the term rape upsets you.

Because My wife was actually raped as a child until 9 years old and horribly abused beyond most people's comprehension.  I know what that looks like.  And I also know Joy's story.  They look no where near the same.  And YES IT ANGERS ME!!!  I also know the rest of the story and it is as sad as the first of it.  Same ole same ole.

So you think Joy and DH was consensual or child rape?


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[TidesofTruth]

Hindsight is never 20/20 but if you ask those of us who went to school with her that is not how we remembered it.  Statutory YEP.  Dave was a wicked man.  But rape in the traditional sense?  Let's just say there was no "cry out".  She can refute it all day long and will win every single argument because Dave was as wicked as they come.  But the girls knew the truth about what the real story was.  My wife suffered at the hands of terrible abuse as a child.  I know exactly what real rape looks like and the problems it causes.  It makes me furious that Joy uses these terms to describe her actions as a teenager as so innocent when real abuses abound.

Dave's other girls were quite jealous of Joy so there were no secrets from them.  Go ahead and ask the HBHS Girls from that era.

Oh I know its not politically correct to "blame the 'Victim'" and I know that a grown man of 20 something should have just spurned off any and all flirtations.  I know that and I believe that.  But these are the reasons there wasn't more back bone in Dr. Evans voice when dealing with the issue.  As much as He tried he could not get her to stop sneaking out.  It was he that caught them at the hotel together.  She was not a hostage.    Many  girls threw themselves at him and so did she.  I have seen this before in the music business.  The Christian Music Industry is rife with the same problems.  Most every Gospel Group has had these issues.  We used to joke that Gaither Music was Bill's home for wayward boys.  Power and fame in a young man will always ruin him.

So now it is a cause celeb.  A reason to be.  And absolutely no one would dare say anything against the "victim" now would they, because he is in fact evil.  And to say something against the victim would be supporting the evil man wouldn't it.    I would say no.  In this story it took two to tango and in this current day climate there is no room for another side.  At some point you just get tired of hearing the same story over and over again but only coming from one source and when you know he truth of what happened and the "victim" is now being made out to be a hero, you say to yourself "come on, be real,  We know the truth and this ain't it, no matter how wicked David is, you don't get to be wicked yourself, spin your own yarn and make yourself the hero.  Don't make daddy out to be the fall guy by your silence.  Own your own sin.

There you go Radar  That ought to fire up some spark for the forum.

 

[Teri in NC]

The accuser was quite vague about what she thought was some kind of abuse.  Then it became a accusation of some kind of grooming "as she remembers back".

Nothing ever came of it but collaboration with the Do Righters and a throw in with JER.

Your first sentence leads me to believe that you do know the story of the "I think he said something" but there was never official accusation of any abuse.

Your second sentence leads me to believe that you are obsessed with putting JER in a negative light and blame victims.

Forgive me if I am wrong on either account.

I don't understand what you are saying in the first sentence.  And as to the second part I was simply stating that she joined with JER in working on the legislation stuff.  That part wasn't a negative light although some of my other posts I believe could be construed that way by some and others would just tell you I was being honest.

KH claimed PC 'said something' to her, but she never officially accused him of any other type of abuse.

She is no longer involved with the non-profit that Joy started.  Yes, some of your previous posts made me think you blame Joy for what happened.  One post even stated that her use of the term rape upsets you.

Because My wife was actually raped as a child until 9 years old and horribly abused beyond most people's comprehension.  I know what that looks like.  And I also know Joy's story.  They look no where near the same.  And YES IT ANGERS ME!!!  I also know the rest of the story and it is as sad as the first of it.  Same ole same ole.

You are an idiot.

 

[Willis Athey]

The accuser was quite vague about what she thought was some kind of abuse.  Then it became a accusation of some kind of grooming "as she remembers back".

Nothing ever came of it but collaboration with the Do Righters and a throw in with JER.

Your first sentence leads me to believe that you do know the story of the "I think he said something" but there was never official accusation of any abuse.

Your second sentence leads me to believe that you are obsessed with putting JER in a negative light and blame victims.

Forgive me if I am wrong on either account.

I don't understand what you are saying in the first sentence.  And as to the second part I was simply stating that she joined with JER in working on the legislation stuff.  That part wasn't a negative light although some of my other posts I believe could be construed that way by some and others would just tell you I was being honest.

KH claimed PC 'said something' to her, but she never officially accused him of any other type of abuse.

She is no longer involved with the non-profit that Joy started.  Yes, some of your previous posts made me think you blame Joy for what happened.  One post even stated that her use of the term rape upsets you.

Because My wife was actually raped as a child until 9 years old and horribly abused beyond most people's comprehension.  I know what that looks like.  And I also know Joy's story.  They look no where near the same.  And YES IT ANGERS ME!!!  I also know the rest of the story and it is as sad as the first of it.  Same ole same ole.

Do Dave's abuses anger you? What about the lies by FBCH faithful regarding Dave's abuses? You know it is possible to be angry with more than just one example of rape--it's all horrific.


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[TidesofTruth]

The accuser was quite vague about what she thought was some kind of abuse.  Then it became a accusation of some kind of grooming "as she remembers back".

Nothing ever came of it but collaboration with the Do Righters and a throw in with JER.

Your first sentence leads me to believe that you do know the story of the "I think he said something" but there was never official accusation of any abuse.

Your second sentence leads me to believe that you are obsessed with putting JER in a negative light and blame victims.

Forgive me if I am wrong on either account.

I don't understand what you are saying in the first sentence.  And as to the second part I was simply stating that she joined with JER in working on the legislation stuff.  That part wasn't a negative light although some of my other posts I believe could be construed that way by some and others would just tell you I was being honest.

KH claimed PC 'said something' to her, but she never officially accused him of any other type of abuse.

She is no longer involved with the non-profit that Joy started.  Yes, some of your previous posts made me think you blame Joy for what happened.  One post even stated that her use of the term rape upsets you.

Because My wife was actually raped as a child until 9 years old and horribly abused beyond most people's comprehension.  I know what that looks like.  And I also know Joy's story.  They look no where near the same.  And YES IT ANGERS ME!!!  I also know the rest of the story and it is as sad as the first of it.  Same ole same ole.

You are an idiot.

Am I?  Or do I just know all the truth including the current truth that you refuse to acknowledge as being possibly true because it doesn't fit your own perception of reality.

 

[TidesofTruth]

The accuser was quite vague about what she thought was some kind of abuse.  Then it became a accusation of some kind of grooming "as she remembers back".

Nothing ever came of it but collaboration with the Do Righters and a throw in with JER.

Your first sentence leads me to believe that you do know the story of the "I think he said something" but there was never official accusation of any abuse.

Your second sentence leads me to believe that you are obsessed with putting JER in a negative light and blame victims.

Forgive me if I am wrong on either account.

I don't understand what you are saying in the first sentence.  And as to the second part I was simply stating that she joined with JER in working on the legislation stuff.  That part wasn't a negative light although some of my other posts I believe could be construed that way by some and others would just tell you I was being honest.

KH claimed PC 'said something' to her, but she never officially accused him of any other type of abuse.

She is no longer involved with the non-profit that Joy started.  Yes, some of your previous posts made me think you blame Joy for what happened.  One post even stated that her use of the term rape upsets you.

Because My wife was actually raped as a child until 9 years old and horribly abused beyond most people's comprehension.  I know what that looks like.  And I also know Joy's story.  They look no where near the same.  And YES IT ANGERS ME!!!  I also know the rest of the story and it is as sad as the first of it.  Same ole same ole.

Do Dave's abuses anger you? What about the lies by FBCH faithful regarding Dave's abuses? You know it is possible to be angry with more than just one example of rape--it's all horrific.


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You can begin reading my thoughts here for an answer.  http://www.fundamentalforums.org/hyles-anderson-college/from-just-a-member/msg69418/#msg69418

 

[Teri in NC]

The accuser was quite vague about what she thought was some kind of abuse.  Then it became a accusation of some kind of grooming "as she remembers back".

Nothing ever came of it but collaboration with the Do Righters and a throw in with JER.

Your first sentence leads me to believe that you do know the story of the "I think he said something" but there was never official accusation of any abuse.

Your second sentence leads me to believe that you are obsessed with putting JER in a negative light and blame victims.

Forgive me if I am wrong on either account.

I don't understand what you are saying in the first sentence.  And as to the second part I was simply stating that she joined with JER in working on the legislation stuff.  That part wasn't a negative light although some of my other posts I believe could be construed that way by some and others would just tell you I was being honest.

KH claimed PC 'said something' to her, but she never officially accused him of any other type of abuse.

She is no longer involved with the non-profit that Joy started.  Yes, some of your previous posts made me think you blame Joy for what happened.  One post even stated that her use of the term rape upsets you.

Because My wife was actually raped as a child until 9 years old and horribly abused beyond most people's comprehension.  I know what that looks like.  And I also know Joy's story.  They look no where near the same.  And YES IT ANGERS ME!!!  I also know the rest of the story and it is as sad as the first of it.  Same ole same ole.

You are an idiot.

Am I?  Or do I just know all the truth including the current truth that you refuse to acknowledge as being possibly true because it doesn't fit your own perception of reality.

Yes, you are.