Wisdoms Friend said:
rsc2a said:
If you had told me you just wanted to support your per-concieved biases, it would have saved me the trouble of replying the first time.
I have no pre-conceived bias, I asked a specific question and took time to look up your suggested references.
The question is valid, because it is a point of controversy in many churches. The question is raised because recently I was challenged that it is something Christians
ought to do. It's a sincere question, and I took your suggestions of the offered references serious enough to look them up and look at their context.
Ok then...
[quote author=Wisdoms Friend]Psalm 28:2 refers to lifting hands in prayer[/quote]
Prayers can be in the form of song. (See the Psalms.)
[quote author=Wisdoms Friend]Psalm 63:4 is not a reference to singing. While blessing the Lord can include singing, the passage is not about singing[/quote]
You'd just said "blessing the Lord can include singing". Without additional reasoning, there is no justification in specifically excluding singing.
I also think you'll have trouble with this practice once you start looking up definitions for "bless", specifically in regards to the blessing the Divine.
[quote author=Wisdoms Friend]Psalm 134:2 again, not a reference to singing, it is a reference to blessing the Lord in the sanctuary[/quote]
See above. Also singing was a regular part of the worship service at the temple.
[quote author=Wisdoms Friend]Psalm 141:2 lifting hands while worshiping at the evening sacrifice. Not a reference to singing.[/quote]
Isa 1:10-15, Amos 5:21-24, Romans 12:1, Eph 5:19-21
I think the idea of worship, sacrifice, and singing being completely separate acts with no overlap is erroneous. (Also, see above where singing was an integral part of temple worship. You could also look at Passover, the festivals, and other places where singing was also part of the worship.)
Through [Jesus] then let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that acknowledge his name. - Hebrews 13:15 (See also Ps 50.)
For anyone that would tell me that lifting hands during song is something we
ought do, I would ask them on what grounds they are making that claim. If they point to Scripture....
Anyone that would use passages like the 1 Timothy passage as their proof-text basis either way (i.e highly (hyper?) regulative worship principles), I would ask them a ton of questions:
- Do your women wear head coverings?
- Do the men raise their hands during every prayer?
- Do you dance before the Lord?
- Do you sing anything but the Psalms?
- Do you recognize the Christmas holiday at your services?
- Do you use wine when taking communion? How about unleaven bread from one loaf?
- Do you use musical instruments? PA system? Electricity?
In other words, I would ask them to be consistent in their
legalism beliefs.