Vinyard left during my first year at the college. I didn't much care for him then. You were branded as "soft" and not very dedicated (to put it mildly) if you expressed your dislike then. I witnessed him doing some things to students that were abusive, physically and otherwise. In retrospect, I think he epitomized everything that was wrong about HAC. I always believed that Jack Hyles loved Vinyard's results but otherwise, didn't know how to control him. I'm not a huge Ray Young fan, but I didn't miss Vinyard after he left.