Hopelessly Stuck between Fundamentalists and Liberals

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I'm an ex-IFBxer. A hard core fundamentalist. As a young man, I realized that what I believed was so full of holes..... it looked swiss cheese from a rat infested cheese warehouse. I changed. I sincerely began a mission to learn what I should believe. My journey has lead me through many different stages of various beliefs. Through research, study and prayer, I have become comfortable with what I truly believe and why I believe it. In the last 10 years or so, I have become aware that I really don't fit in anywhere. I am hopeless stuck between fundamentalist on one side and liberals on the other.

In the last few years, I am beginning to think, If I HAD to make a choice......I'd take KJVOism over liberalism any day. Don't get me wrong. I'm not taking either. Yet, the more I live.... the more I really come to hate an anything goes mentality.

Does anyone kinda of feel the same way?
 
christundivided said:
I'm an ex-IFBxer. A hard core fundamentalist. As a young man, I realized that what I believed was so full of holes..... it looked swiss cheese from a rat infested cheese warehouse. I changed. I sincerely began a mission to learn what I should believe. My journey has lead me through many different stages of various beliefs. Through research, study and prayer, I have become comfortable with what I truly believe and why I believe it. In the last 10 years or so, I have become aware that I really don't fit in anywhere. I am hopeless stuck between fundamentalist on one side and liberals on the other.

In the last few years, I am beginning to think, If I HAD to make a choice......I'd take KJVOism over liberalism any day. Don't get me wrong. I'm not taking either. Yet, the more I live.... the more I really come to hate an anything goes mentality.

Does anyone kinda of feel the same way?
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Yes, in mirror image. If I had to choose between, say, Sam Gipp and Marcus Borg, I like Borg better. But I'm glad I don't have to make that choice. I am not predictably liberal or conservative, and I'm happy with that, because I don't think either is right about everything.
 
Through research, study and prayer, I have become comfortable with what I truly believe and why I believe it.

If this is true than what is the problem? Obviously you don't have to choose any side of the pendulum. Be who you have become, continue to evolve, and be happy.
 
Patebald said:
Through research, study and prayer, I have become comfortable with what I truly believe and why I believe it.

If this is true than what is the problem? Obviously you don't have to choose any side of the pendulum. Be who you have become, continue to evolve, and be happy.
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Not really a problem. I am happy. I don't rely on others for my happiness. I was just looking to interact with those that might feel the same way. I do find it difficult to interact with those who name the name of Christ because of the issues I mentioned. I wish it wasn't so difficult.
 
christundivided said:
In the last few years, I am beginning to think, If I HAD to make a choice......I'd take KJVOism over liberalism any day.
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It is possible to be neither KJV-only nor liberal, you know.

Why pretend the choice is between horse manure and cow manure, when there's actual food to be had elsewhere?
 
Ransom said:
christundivided said:
In the last few years, I am beginning to think, If I HAD to make a choice......I'd take KJVOism over liberalism any day.
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It is possible to be neither KJV-only nor liberal, you know.

Why pretend the choice is between horse manure and cow manure, when there's actual food to be had elsewhere?
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I didn't pretend any such thing. I said.... I know I didn't have to choose. I was making an observation about both extremes.
 
CU,
I'm actually preaching on that tomorrow.  (Matthew 16:1-12 where Jesus warns to beware of the leaven of the Sadducees and Pharisees.)  There is a rut on both sides of that ditch, but you don't have to take up habitation in either one.  Just follow scripture. 
(I would say though that there is a lot of room between a hard core IFBxer and a Liberal - Just because a hardcore IFBxer calls anyone else a liberal doesn't make it true.)
 
pastorryanhayden said:
(I would say though that there is a lot of room between a hard core IFBxer and a Liberal - Just because a hardcore IFBxer calls anyone else a liberal doesn't make it true.)
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That will get you a shiny new compromiser label to go along with your official librul pin.  ;D
 
CU:

I am IFB because of what those words mean.  Like you stated, I too, grew up in the extreme group and found things didn't line up with Scripture.  The big problem for me was Performance Based Christianity - working to earn God's grace for your daily life, though your salvation is by simple faith.  Still, I remain a fundamentalist.  However, just as the liberal has swayed to the left of truth, many IFB sway to the right of truth.  In defending the heresy of the liberals, they create a whole new heresy.  I am willing to simply stand on truth and recognize the error of the left and the right.  While I recognize the errors of both groups, I work to fight the carnal urge of pride to promote myself over their "sinful ways" in a spirit of condemnation.  I will stand for truth, proclaim truth and explain truth, but I do not have to become belligerent.

Make sense?
 
subllibrm said:
pastorryanhayden said:
(I would say though that there is a lot of room between a hard core IFBxer and a Liberal - Just because a hardcore IFBxer calls anyone else a liberal doesn't make it true.)
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That will get you a shiny new compromiser label to go along with your official librul pin.  ;D
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Good.  If hyper-conservative, Bible abusing, narcissistic, overly divisive charlatans aren't giving me labels, I'm not doing something right.
 
Binaca Chugger said:
CU:

I am IFB because of what those words mean.  Like you stated, I too, grew up in the extreme group and found things didn't line up with Scripture.  The big problem for me was Performance Based Christianity - working to earn God's grace for your daily life, though your salvation is by simple faith.  Still, I remain a fundamentalist.  However, just as the liberal has swayed to the left of truth, many IFB sway to the right of truth.  In defending the heresy of the liberals, they create a whole new heresy.  I am willing to simply stand on truth and recognize the error of the left and the right.  While I recognize the errors of both groups, I work to fight the carnal urge of pride to promote myself over their "sinful ways" in a spirit of condemnation.  I will stand for truth, proclaim truth and explain truth, but I do not have to become belligerent.

Make sense?
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It does make sense and I like it. However, beyond the historic Five Fundamentals, which I can agree to, at least in some versions, I am not a fundamentalist. I think the truth can more often be found with non-fundamentalist conservatives, and even sometimes with liberals.
 
Izdaari said:
Binaca Chugger said:
CU:

I am IFB because of what those words mean.  Like you stated, I too, grew up in the extreme group and found things didn't line up with Scripture.  The big problem for me was Performance Based Christianity - working to earn God's grace for your daily life, though your salvation is by simple faith.  Still, I remain a fundamentalist.  However, just as the liberal has swayed to the left of truth, many IFB sway to the right of truth.  In defending the heresy of the liberals, they create a whole new heresy.  I am willing to simply stand on truth and recognize the error of the left and the right.  While I recognize the errors of both groups, I work to fight the carnal urge of pride to promote myself over their "sinful ways" in a spirit of condemnation.  I will stand for truth, proclaim truth and explain truth, but I do not have to become belligerent.

Make sense?
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It does make sense and I like it. However, beyond the historic Five Fundamentals, which I can agree to, at least in some versions, I am not a fundamentalist. I think the truth can more often be found with non-fundamentalist conservatives, and even sometimes with liberals.
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Personally, my fundamentals go much deeper than the Five Fundamentals.  Even "The Fundamentals" covered much more than just the Five Fundamentals.  I would define it as the fundamental principles of Christianity which would include the BAPTISTS acrostic and the five points along with separation, soul winning and a belief that God still can.  The Fundamentalist movement of the 20's - 70's was about being against modernism, separating (Though some of that got taken to improper extremes) and revival meetings.
 
The Fundamentalist movement of the 20's - 70's was about being against modernism, separating (Though some of that got taken to improper extremes) and revival meetings.
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I oppose modernism with post-modernism, not pre-modernism. I don't believe in separating from other Christians except for serious heresy. And I'm not much of a fan of revival meetings.

But I appreciate your faith, honesty and consistancy.  8)
 
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