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With Donald Trump's recent instruction of DEI I came across this article that I figured you all might enjoy, since you are a bunch of white Christian nationalists...

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Okay, I confess. I am a white man. Not that a confession is necessary. The fair freckled skin and that pesky Y chromosome are dead giveaways. 😉
 
I don't think the author knows what the gospel is or what DEI is.
Pavlovitz's theology is so vacuous, for years he was mistaken for a Unitarian. (Nope--he's just a former youth pastor who attends a "progressive" nondenominational church in North Carolina with a lesbian for "Pastor.")

Funny how "progressive" "Christians" are always the people who get alarmed at the thought of a theocracy every time a Republican gets elected, but think being "Christ-like" means the government practicing his ethics.
 
I don't think the author knows what the gospel is or what DEI is.
The irony of your response is spot on, because the thread was born out of a Facebook exchange that I read yesterday from one of my wife's teacher friends, where she was saying DEI is not about hiring people that are any less competent.
 
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Funny how "progressive" "Christians" are always the people who get alarmed at the thought of a theocracy every time a Republican gets elected, but think being "Christ-like" means the government practicing his ethics.
This so well stated it bears repeating. Government of the people, for the people, and by the people is only good for the nation when a Democrat is elected.😏
 
For starters, his doctrine of sin (hamartiology) is flawed if not completely baseless.
"Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand."
These answers are essentially the same. Hit the nail on the head.

He's saying these 'oppressed' groups have nothing to repent of, and that there is no wrath coming from which they need to flee.

Jesus came to save His people from their sins. The rest He gives is rest from works of the law.

As long as we're in this world, we eat by the sweat of our brow. We toil in Egypt, and Edom still seeks to kill us. Yet, we have joy and peace and rest in our souls.
 
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Along the same lines, I ran into a young intelligent white woman who said she was going through decolonization. Say what?! I had to ask someone what that was about. I was clueless. Below is a link with a good description. I can understand most of it.


I'm just an average old woman who happened to graduate from HAC a hundred years ago, so this was quite alarming to me, especially since my ancestors helped colonize America. It sounds like several factions want to do away with everything America was founded on, which includes any inkling of that kind of faith.

There are a lot of folks concerned about America's future, including me.

About a year ago, I joined a Zoom group. Maybe it was during Covid. The self-appointed speaker went to each person and asked how they wanted to identify.

"Are you she, he, it, they, etc.?" the "she/he" asked.

Most of the group were older women like me. One woman said, "I'm confused. What are you talking about?!!!"

A few months later, I worked for an attorney who changed all of the wills he had prepared because his daughter said her son wanted to be identified as a girl.

It creates an absolute mess for the courts, the schools, and anyone who monitors a public restroom.
 
Along the same lines, I ran into a young intelligent white woman who said she was going through decolonization. Say what?! I had to ask someone what that was about. I was clueless. Below is a link with a good description. I can understand most of it.


I'm just an average old woman who happened to graduate from HAC a hundred years ago, so this was quite alarming to me, especially since my ancestors helped colonize America. It sounds like several factions want to do away with everything America was founded on, which includes any inkling of that kind of faith.

There are a lot of folks concerned about America's future, including me.

About a year ago, I joined a Zoom group. Maybe it was during Covid. The self-appointed speaker went to each person and asked how they wanted to identify.

"Are you she, he, it, they, etc.?" the "she/he" asked.

Most of the group were older women like me. One woman said, "I'm confused. What are you talking about?!!!"

A few months later, I worked for an attorney who changed all of the wills he had prepared because his daughter said her son wanted to be identified as a girl.

It creates an absolute mess for the courts, the schools, and anyone who monitors a public restroom.
I am also just an average white dude, who runs all of my thinking through a paradigm of conservative biblical thinking. In short, I am simply a Christian, like those that have come before me for thousands of years. Of course, now that term, Christian, has been used to describe so much that is not bible believing that it has become vapid.

Having said all that, my first real world introduction into what you're talking about was when my sophomore college aged son was attempting to navigate the choppy Waters of figuring out what (secular) college to go to, but my eyes were opened wide during that period. All of the he/him stuff and various woke ideology front and center in all of the orientation and campus visit presentations. In addition to all of that, I had already become suspicious of how pervasive the problem was when he was filling out college scholarship applications and because he was a heterosexual white male, he was eliminated from a huge percentage of applications for scholarship money.

All of that is anecdotal, but what has become clear and not only my personal relationships, people that are not bible, leaving Christians, as well as reading about these kinds of things, is that you can be whatever you want to be now and still call yourself a Christian. The process reminds me of my first eye-opening experiences in Baptist fundamentalism via the FFF, where so many of the participants on our forum were refugees from hardcore IFBx regimes where they had been subjected to abuse and a caricature of bible-believing Christianity, draped in legalism. Many of those people shunned the term Baptist because of abuse they received at the hands of so-called Baptists like Bob Gray, Tom Neal, Jim Vineyard, etc.

I'm still not ashamed to be called a Baptist, or a fundamentalist, but I am leery of people who knowingly or unknowingly pack such terms with all kinds of loaded legalistic and hyper-authoritarian baggage. I refuse to be linked with such abuse of Christ's message, and in that sense, I guess you could say that I am still steadfastly and obstinately militant, or Fundy, lol.
 
I am also just an average white dude, who runs all of my thinking through a paradigm of conservative biblical thinking. In short, I am simply a Christian, like those that have come before me for thousands of years. Of course, now that term, Christian, has been used to describe so much that is not bible believing that it has become vapid.

Having said all that, my first real world introduction into what you're talking about was when my sophomore college aged son was attempting to navigate the choppy Waters of figuring out what (secular) college to go to, but my eyes were opened wide during that period. All of the he/him stuff and various woke ideology front and center in all of the orientation and campus visit presentations. In addition to all of that, I had already become suspicious of how pervasive the problem was when he was filling out college scholarship applications and because he was a heterosexual white male, he was eliminated from a huge percentage of applications for scholarship money.

All of that is anecdotal, but what has become clear and not only my personal relationships, people that are not bible, leaving Christians, as well as reading about these kinds of things, is that you can be whatever you want to be now and still call yourself a Christian. The process reminds me of my first eye-opening experiences in Baptist fundamentalism via the FFF, where so many of the participants on our forum were refugees from hardcore IFBx regimes where they had been subjected to abuse and a caricature of bible-believing Christianity, draped in legalism. Many of those people shunned the term Baptist because of abuse they received at the hands of so-called Baptists like Bob Gray, Tom Neal, Jim Vineyard, etc.

I'm still not ashamed to be called a Baptist, or a fundamentalist, but I am leery of people who knowingly or unknowingly pack such terms with all kinds of loaded legalistic and hyper-authoritarian baggage. I refuse to be linked with such abuse of Christ's message, and in that sense, I guess you could say that I am still steadfastly and obstinately militant, or Fundy, lol.
Well said.

As people voice their opinions about the current administration, I am reading more and more hostility about Christianity. The division seems to be drawing deeper.
 
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