Boys' Club

[brainisengaged]

What is your connotation of the term, "boys' club"?

My husband and I were talking....there had been an ugly incident on the softball field during the church men's league over the weekend...one foul-mouthed individual was graphically vulgar about another man's wife...a punch was thrown, and after considerable discussion, the offender was kicked out of the game (and off of his team for the rest of the season). The offender had been kicked off of teams and out of the church league before, incidentally, but has always been allowed back, given another chance...we'll see what happens this time.

However, as we were discussing the incident, my husband and I wondered why / how attitudes like that arise and why they are allowed to flourish.  I opined that our church is very much a Boys' Club, and while I have a connotation of what that means in my mind, I had a hard time explaining it to my husband, who was not sure what I was trying to get at.

In the urban dictionary, boys' club is defined:
1. a group of men that when together act like boys; joking around and goofing around with each other.

2. a term for an club that only allows men into their group. often used as a way to get away from their wives/girlfriends and hang out with other like-minded individuals.

Maybe it is hard for men to see how everything is really geared for them...and how that helps foster the extreme jerk syndrome affecting too many of our guys...

 

[TidesofTruth]

The Boy's Club

1st RULE: You do not talk about The Boys' Club.
2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about The Boys' Club.
3rd RULE: You most certainly DO NOT talk to women about The Boys' Club.

 

[subllibrm]

The idiomatic use of "good old boy" is taken in different ways geographically in this country.

Down south it is considered something of a compliment; "Rufus, he's just a good ol' boy" while in Minnesota it means someone with inside connections, manipulating situations for his own gain.

 

[brainisengaged]

Hmmm, Tides of Truth...is THAT why my husband was playing obtuse with me?

I know about "good ol' boys" and I don't think this 'boys' club' mentality is openly acknowledged or sinister in intent. It's just that as soon as they can play t-ball, boys are encouraged to be on teams. They have all kinds of extracurricular activities that are planned around them. Girls have nothing. Girls are expected to sit patiently on the sidelines and watch. Some of the boys don't know how small their world is, and become very impressed with themselves when they perceive themselves to be master of the universe in which they operate...and thus, another 'jerk' is born. Hardly anyone recognizes this, it seems, and it is left unchecked.

 

[Mathew Ward]

I think they came become jerks if they have coaches who allow them to have attitudes and play a selfish style of play in basketball or whatever team sport they are playing. This also can be exasperated by the parents who coddle to their little sports hero, imho.

 

[Bravo]

Hmmm, Tides of Truth...is THAT why my husband was playing obtuse with me?

I know about "good ol' boys" and I don't think this 'boys' club' mentality is openly acknowledged or sinister in intent. It's just that as soon as they can play t-ball, boys are encouraged to be on teams. They have all kinds of extracurricular activities that are planned around them. Girls have nothing. Girls are expected to sit patiently on the sidelines and watch. Some of the boys don't know how small their world is, and become very impressed with themselves when they perceive themselves to be master of the universe in which they operate...and thus, another 'jerk' is born. Hardly anyone recognizes this, it seems, and it is left unchecked.

To be fair the boys only sports mentality is prevalent at FBC/HAC/HB. There are other Christian schools locally that do have basketball, volleyball, even softball for the girls. In Bro Hyles day it was seen as wrong and even a role reversal for men to cheer on women for athletic endeavors (no Bible verse for that of course???) so women weren't allowed to have sports and under Schaap were not even allowed to be cheerleaders. I believe HB now has volleyball for the girls and now their dad's can even come watch them play.

 

[BALAAM]

What is your connotation of the term, "boys' club"?

My husband and I were talking....there had been an ugly incident on the softball field during the church men's league over the weekend...one foul-mouthed individual was graphically vulgar about another man's wife...a punch was thrown, and after considerable discussion, the offender was kicked out of the game (and off of his team for the rest of the season). The offender had been kicked off of teams and out of the church league before, incidentally, but has always been allowed back, given another chance...we'll see what happens this time.

However, as we were discussing the incident, my husband and I wondered why / how attitudes like that arise and why they are allowed to flourish.  I opined that our church is very much a Boys' Club, and while I have a connotation of what that means in my mind, I had a hard time explaining it to my husband, who was not sure what I was trying to get at.

In the urban dictionary, boys' club is defined:
1. a group of men that when together act like boys; joking around and goofing around with each other.

2. a term for an club that only allows men into their group. often used as a way to get away from their wives/girlfriends and hang out with other like-minded individuals.

Maybe it is hard for men to see how everything is really geared for them...and how that helps foster the extreme jerk syndrome affecting too many of our guys...

Oh this is precious! They have a church baseball league so the men don't have to go and play in a "worldly" league. They might see a woman in shorts!  I don't know who this is but if he knows the drill he will just enroll in RU on Friday nights for a few weeks and then walk the aisle and proclaim himself cured.

 

[Gonefishin]

What is your connotation of the term, "boys' club"?

My husband and I were talking....there had been an ugly incident on the softball field during the church men's league over the weekend...one foul-mouthed individual was graphically vulgar about another man's wife...a punch was thrown, and after considerable discussion, the offender was kicked out of the game (and off of his team for the rest of the season). The offender had been kicked off of teams and out of the church league before, incidentally, but has always been allowed back, given another chance...we'll see what happens this time.

However, as we were discussing the incident, my husband and I wondered why / how attitudes like that arise and why they are allowed to flourish.  I opined that our church is very much a Boys' Club, and while I have a connotation of what that means in my mind, I had a hard time explaining it to my husband, who was not sure what I was trying to get at.

In the urban dictionary, boys' club is defined:
1. a group of men that when together act like boys; joking around and goofing around with each other.

2. a term for an club that only allows men into their group. often used as a way to get away from their wives/girlfriends and hang out with other like-minded individuals.

Maybe it is hard for men to see how everything is really geared for them...and how that helps foster the extreme jerk syndrome affecting too many of our guys...

Oh this is precious! They have a church baseball league so the men don't have to go and play in a "worldly" league. They might see a woman in shorts!  I don't know who this is but if he knows the drill he will just enroll in RU on Friday nights for a few weeks and then walk the aisle and proclaim himself cured.

The boys club starts in Eddie's office and goes to Brian's cubicle.  After his cubicle it goes to whomever buys me a suit, praises me the most, or has knit  their hear to me.  Sometimes I just can't figure you out....

 

[Smellin Coffee]

What is your connotation of the term, "boys' club"?

My husband and I were talking....there had been an ugly incident on the softball field during the church men's league over the weekend...one foul-mouthed individual was graphically vulgar about another man's wife...a punch was thrown, and after considerable discussion, the offender was kicked out of the game (and off of his team for the rest of the season). The offender had been kicked off of teams and out of the church league before, incidentally, but has always been allowed back, given another chance...we'll see what happens this time.

However, as we were discussing the incident, my husband and I wondered why / how attitudes like that arise and why they are allowed to flourish.  I opined that our church is very much a Boys' Club, and while I have a connotation of what that means in my mind, I had a hard time explaining it to my husband, who was not sure what I was trying to get at.

In the urban dictionary, boys' club is defined:
1. a group of men that when together act like boys; joking around and goofing around with each other.

2. a term for an club that only allows men into their group. often used as a way to get away from their wives/girlfriends and hang out with other like-minded individuals.

Maybe it is hard for men to see how everything is really geared for them...and how that helps foster the extreme jerk syndrome affecting too many of our guys...

This isn't just a Hammond thing. It is just as prevalent in the Evangelical world as well.

There is certainly a mixture of misogyny and philogyny in Christian circles everywhere...  :-\