Blasphemy of the Spirit (and other stuff)
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30-minute message. Is there a point or question?
For those wanting to get to the "meat", skip to the 20-minute mark. Not a bad message.
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Will have to listen to it a bit later. We're being attacked by TS Helene.
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Mat 12:31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
It is a good sermon. In Matthew 12:28 it states that Jesus cast out the demons “by the Spirit of God.” It is only by the Holy Spirit that men are convicted of sin, righteousness and judgment (John 16:8). Those who refuse to repent and believe after coming under conviction by the Holy Spirit and put off salvation are in danger of dying in their sins because because after death comes the judgment (Heb 9:27). Those who are “stiff-necked” and “always resist the Holy Spirit” (Acts 7:51) will die in their sins. That is what happened to the Jews in Acts 13:46. Since they rejected the message of salvation and judged themselves unworthy of everlasting life, Paul turned to the Gentiles who did receive the message of salvation.
Some teach that those who take the mark of the beast (Rev 13:16-18) can never be saved (cf. Rev 14:9-11) because 2 Thessalonians 2 says the “man of sin” (the Antichrist) will come after the working of Satan with all “power and lying wonders” to deceive the world and God will send a strong delusion that “all who believed not the truth might be damned.” This is a real fear among many Christians but there are several reasons taking the mark of the beast knowingly or unknowingly is not the “unpardonable sin.”
First: The Antichrist must be in power to enforce this mark on everyone. Second: There must be a temple for him to sit in. Third: There must be a peace treaty signed between the Antichrist and the nation of Israel (Dan 9:24-25). Finally, Revelation 14:6 says the “everlasting gospel” will be preached to every nation after the mark of the beast is given in Rev 13 and those who repent and and turn their allegiance from the Antichrist to Christ will be given one last chance to be saved.
Some teach that if someone heard the gospel one time before the Tribulation period begins and are left behind by the Rapture they can’t be saved because they “received not the love of the truth that they might be saved” (2 Thess 2:10-11). The only problem is no one knows what God’s litmus test is regarding what someone knows about the gospel. I heard the gospel many times before I was saved but what about someone in Iran or North Korea or some other country where they might have heard Billy Graham preach one time on the radio without making a decision. What about someone who never went to church except the one time he went to Sunday School with a friend as a child and heard the gospel? God will send delusion to allow people to be tricked during the Tribulation, but only if their hearts are hardened to the truth. The bottom line is that the only “unpardonable sin” is dying without Jesus Christ after rejecting the Holy Spirits’ wooing before they pass into eternity.
Mat 12:32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
It is a good sermon. In Matthew 12:28 it states that Jesus cast out the demons “by the Spirit of God.” It is only by the Holy Spirit that men are convicted of sin, righteousness and judgment (John 16:8). Those who refuse to repent and believe after coming under conviction by the Holy Spirit and put off salvation are in danger of dying in their sins because because after death comes the judgment (Heb 9:27). Those who are “stiff-necked” and “always resist the Holy Spirit” (Acts 7:51) will die in their sins. That is what happened to the Jews in Acts 13:46. Since they rejected the message of salvation and judged themselves unworthy of everlasting life, Paul turned to the Gentiles who did receive the message of salvation.
Some teach that those who take the mark of the beast (Rev 13:16-18) can never be saved (cf. Rev 14:9-11) because 2 Thessalonians 2 says the “man of sin” (the Antichrist) will come after the working of Satan with all “power and lying wonders” to deceive the world and God will send a strong delusion that “all who believed not the truth might be damned.” This is a real fear among many Christians but there are several reasons taking the mark of the beast knowingly or unknowingly is not the “unpardonable sin.”
First: The Antichrist must be in power to enforce this mark on everyone. Second: There must be a temple for him to sit in. Third: There must be a peace treaty signed between the Antichrist and the nation of Israel (Dan 9:24-25). Finally, Revelation 14:6 says the “everlasting gospel” will be preached to every nation after the mark of the beast is given in Rev 13 and those who repent and and turn their allegiance from the Antichrist to Christ will be given one last chance to be saved.
Some teach that if someone heard the gospel one time before the Tribulation period begins and are left behind by the Rapture they can’t be saved because they “received not the love of the truth that they might be saved” (2 Thess 2:10-11). The only problem is no one knows what God’s litmus test is regarding what someone knows about the gospel. I heard the gospel many times before I was saved but what about someone in Iran or North Korea or some other country where they might have heard Billy Graham preach one time on the radio without making a decision. What about someone who never went to church except the one time he went to Sunday School with a friend as a child and heard the gospel? God will send delusion to allow people to be tricked during the Tribulation, but only if their hearts are hardened to the truth. The bottom line is that the only “unpardonable sin” is dying without Jesus Christ after rejecting the Holy Spirits’ wooing before they pass into eternity.
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Wow. I looked at that storm on Zoom Earth last night and it was still in the Gulf. I thought TS Beryl moved fast... Mrs. abcaines and I caught the very edge of it... Not much wind but a bunch of rain. It beat down the dust and broke the heat for a couple days...
This is what it looked like about 24 hours after Beryl in western Arkansas.
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It hit Tennessee at Tropical Storm strength?
He's right, that one who is born again "cannot" commit that sin; that faith and repentance are gifts of God. I was going to say, welome to Calvinism, but then in less than two seconds he contradicts himself saying there is no such thing as unconditional election.
So close...
But one thing the discussion about the unforgiveable sin reveals is, no one really wants free will. Free will scares the hell out of you. Literally.
So close...
But one thing the discussion about the unforgiveable sin reveals is, no one really wants free will. Free will scares the hell out of you. Literally.
Blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is simply this, coming straight from the narrative, knowingly and brazenly attributing the clear and unmistakable display of the power and authority of the Third Person of the Trinity to the Devil.
Do that to the First Person. You can be forgiven. Do that to the Second Person. You can be forgiven. Do that to the Third Person, and you've crossed the line. You see, there is rank in the Godhead. But what is also revealed to us about the ways of God is, that the first shall be last, and the last shall be first.
So in the recording, the preacher spends 10 or 12 minutes trying to tell us that the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is impossible to commit, really, for anyone. It's just another way of Christ saying you're either for or against Me. So the unforgiveable sin doesn't really exist.
But I disagree. We have an account of it right there. He casts out devils by Beelzebub, the prince of devils.
This was not the sin of Hyles or Schaap.
Do that to the First Person. You can be forgiven. Do that to the Second Person. You can be forgiven. Do that to the Third Person, and you've crossed the line. You see, there is rank in the Godhead. But what is also revealed to us about the ways of God is, that the first shall be last, and the last shall be first.
So in the recording, the preacher spends 10 or 12 minutes trying to tell us that the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is impossible to commit, really, for anyone. It's just another way of Christ saying you're either for or against Me. So the unforgiveable sin doesn't really exist.
But I disagree. We have an account of it right there. He casts out devils by Beelzebub, the prince of devils.
This was not the sin of Hyles or Schaap.
It entered Georgia as a Category 4 hurricaneIt hit Tennessee at Tropical Storm strength?
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Yes...It hit Augusta, Georgia, where my little sister lives still at Level 1 Hurricane and caused a LOT of damage. Thousands without power. My Becky's ex husband lives in S. Georgia and they got it too. We've got relatives and friends in the Carolina's that have significant damage. Here we got rain on and off and high winds. My brother in Riverview, FL didn't seem to sustain a whole lot of damage.It hit Tennessee at Tropical Storm strength?