Anybody ever watch the TV show "What Would You Do"?

[ALAYMAN]

http://abcnews.go.com/WhatWouldYouDo/


It's a show that employs live ethical scenarios that are put on camera.  They act on various interesting plots in front of an unsuspecting crowd and see if any onlookers will intervene on behalf of some person who is victimized.  The most recent one had a couple of interesting angles worth discussing, but I'll start this discussion by playing off the recent FFF controversy regarding how to deal with gays.  In the latest episode they had their actors set up shop for their ploy in a restaurant.  The tension was set by a couple posing as parents who drop their (presumably) gay son off with a counselor who loudly tells the dropped-off son that he can get victory over his homosexual feelings by "praying the gay away".  The results of the onlookers was a bit mixed in this case.  One Islamic couple supported the "counselor", but by and large, most people were not in favor of the attempted "conversion", and one couple was extremely vocal in their opposition to the counseling session, telling the gay (actor) that he was fine the way he was and that the "counselor" had the calm demeanor that reminded them of a serial killer?


Do you watch the show?

Have you ever intervened in a public situation among strangers where you took up for somebody you perceived was being victimized?

 

[ALAYMAN]

Nobody watches it?

 

[Izdaari]

No, never seen it. I generally make a point of avoiding reality shows. Once in a while I'll make an exception, if I'm really interested in the subject. But ethical dilemmas don't interest me that much.

In the case mentioned in the OP, I would just walk away. None of my business to intervene between a kid and his counselor, even if the counselor is being an idiot. If the counselor was hitting the kid instead of merely giving him stupid advice, that'd be another matter.

 

[The Real Bob]

Nobody watches it?

No. Good Christians don't watch hellivision.

 

[ALAYMAN]

No, never seen it. I generally make a point of avoiding reality shows. Once in a while I'll make an exception, if I'm really interested in the subject. But ethical dilemmas don't much interest me.

I generally avoid reality TV too.  In this case, I came across it one time within the last couple of weeks, and the plot was to show a mother in a store with a little 8 year old brat who was back-talking her and treating her like absolute trash.  They switched that scenario after awhile and made the 8 year old into a 6'1'' teenage brute, and portrayed the mother with a black eye.  The punk teen son again treated her like trach verbally, and asked the "mom" if she wanted another black eye to match the one she already had.  The sad thing was, out of the numerous times that ABC put this dilemma on, not one man intervened one time all day, but numerous women came to her side, even when they were threatened by the "son".  What was most interesting to me personally, was that several times the women who were quickest to respond, and offered substantive tips on how to get assistance (counseling, legal, etc) were public school teachers (and my wife is a teacher).  Sad that not one man had a backbone.  Of course most of those who were interviewed after the fact (and informed that it was just a TV show and not a real life scenario) said that they didn't want to get involved for fear that they would be told to butt out by the victim (ie, didn't want to be "nosey").

 

[Izdaari]

No, never seen it. I generally make a point of avoiding reality shows. Once in a while I'll make an exception, if I'm really interested in the subject. But ethical dilemmas don't much interest me.

I generally avoid reality TV too.  In this case, I came across it one time within the last couple of weeks, and the plot was to show a mother in a store with a little 8 year old brat who was back-talking her and treating her like absolute trash.  They switched that scenario after awhile and made the 8 year old into a 6'1'' teenage brute, and portrayed the mother with a black eye.  The punk teen son again treated her like trach verbally, and asked the "mom" if she wanted another black eye to match the one she already had.  The sad thing was, out of the numerous times that ABC put this dilemma on, not one man intervened one time all day, but numerous women came to her side, even when they were threatened by the "son".  What was most interesting to me personally, was that several times the women who were quickest to respond, and offered substantive tips on how to get assistance (counseling, legal, etc) were public school teachers (and my wife is a teacher).  Sad that not one man had a backbone.  Of course most of those who were interviewed after the fact (and informed that it was just a TV show and not a real life scenario) said that they didn't want to get involved for fear that they would be told to butt out by the victim (ie, didn't want to be "nosey").

In that situation, I probably would intervene... and the "son" would be presenting his case while in a submission hold.

 

[T-Bone]

Yeah, I have seen it...too often they're pushing PC

 

[Trab]

Almost EVERY episode involves a "gay scenario." I have never seen a show so obsessed with normalizing homosexuality and demonizing even the slightest dissent as this one does.

 

[ALAYMAN]

Almost EVERY episode involves a "gay scenario." I have never seen a show so obsessed with normalizing homosexuality and demonizing even the slightest dissent as this one does.

I've watched two episodes, I think, maybe three, and I've only seen the one segment where they did that.  But T-bone hinted at the same thing, so I'll take your word for it.


I'm not much into the PC cappola (hope that don't get me nursified ), but several of the segments I've seen have been more than interesting.  The one time they showed a street beggar (actor) sitting down panhandling.  A rich person (actor) came along and needed a dollar for a coffee at a street vendor and only had a credit card (no cash), so the rich person looked around and then spotted the money in the panhandler's hat, then took it to pay for their coffee.  The onlookers were really miffed!  Most of them immediately gave the panhandler money to replace what had been taken, and usually the panhandler came out ahead because several people immediately donated several dollars to make him feel better.  The thought occurred to me that  real panhandlers watching or hearing of the show would pick up on that trick and pretty soon you'd see them using that ploy in order to get extra dough.

 

[Frag]

Yeah, I have seen it...too often they're pushing PC

Yep.  Watched the first two episodes, and their obvious anti-biblical agenda was a turn off. 

 

[ALAYMAN]

[quote author=Frag]
Yep.  Watched the first two episodes, and their obvious anti-biblical agenda was a turn off.
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Could you (or Trab, T-bone, others) cite examples (other than the "pray the gay away" thing) as to what you saw that was PC and/or anti-biblical?

 

[Trab]

[quote author=Frag]
Yep.  Watched the first two episodes, and their obvious anti-biblical agenda was a turn off.

Could you (or Trab, T-bone, others) cite examples (other than the "pray the gay away" thing) as to what you saw that was PC and/or anti-biblical?
[/quote]

Off the top of my head...
1.  Gay soldiers showing public affection.
2.  A gay marriage proposal.
3.  A gay couple refused service in a restaurant.

There are more... trust me. It seems about every other episode has a gay theme.

 

[Ransom]

Do you watch the show?

Nope.  I let the fundies watch the morally repugnant garbage, so I know what Satan is up to.

 

[ALAYMAN]

Do you watch the show?

Nope.  I let the fundies watch the morally repugnant garbage, so I know what Satan is up to.

Translation:

"None of that smut for me, I get my morally repugnant appetite for filth satiated via Rock and Roll."

 

[AresMan]

At first, I thought it was about this Nickelodeon show I watched when I was a lad.

I never knew there was any other.

 

[Ransom]

Translation:

"None of that smut for me, I get my morally repugnant appetite for filth satiated via Rock and Roll."

Translation: LAMER has the brain of a gnat, and the odour of poo.

 

[ReformedBeliever]

No, never seen it. I generally make a point of avoiding reality shows. Once in a while I'll make an exception, if I'm really interested in the subject. But ethical dilemmas don't much interest me.

not one man intervened one time all day, but numerous women came to her side, even when they were threatened by the "son".  What was most interesting to me personally, was that several times the women who were quickest to respond, and offered substantive tips on how to get assistance (counseling, legal, etc) were public school teachers (and my wife is a teacher).  Sad that not one man had a backbone.  Of course most of those who were interviewed after the fact (and informed that it was just a TV show and not a real life scenario) said that they didn't want to get involved for fear that they would be told to butt out by the victim (ie, didn't want to be "nosey").

It is not surprising in a matriarchal society that men would not defend a woman, it is the expected result, especially since they are told they are exact equals in every way. There are more extreme cases of this, if I remember correctly in Quebec a man came to a university with a gun and ordered all the men out of a classroom. He shot and killed many women who were left in the class and the men did nothing. I also recall reading that in some European country when a boat sank, all the men pushed the women and children aside to get on the lifeboats first. Oh how times have changed, thank you feminism.

 

[ALAYMAN]

Translation:

"None of that smut for me, I get my morally repugnant appetite for filth satiated via Rock and Roll."

Translation: LAMER has the brain of a gnat, and the odour of poo.

Your Mother was a hamster and your father smells of elderberries

It is not surprising in a matriarchal society that men would not defend a woman, it is the expected result, especially since they are told they are exact equals in every way. There are more extreme cases of this, if I remember correctly in Quebec a man came to a university with a gun and ordered all the men out of a classroom. He shot and killed many women who were left in the class and the men did nothing. I also recall reading that in some European country when a boat sank, all the men pushed the women and children aside to get on the lifeboats first. Oh how times have changed, thank you feminism.

You're going to make an interesting addition to the club, lol.   Would you happen to be familiar with our very own Reformed Guy?

 

[ReformedBeliever]

It is not surprising in a matriarchal society that men would not defend a woman, it is the expected result, especially since they are told they are exact equals in every way. There are more extreme cases of this, if I remember correctly in Quebec a man came to a university with a gun and ordered all the men out of a classroom. He shot and killed many women who were left in the class and the men did nothing. I also recall reading that in some European country when a boat sank, all the men pushed the women and children aside to get on the lifeboats first. Oh how times have changed, thank you feminism.

You're going to make an interesting addition to the club, lol.   Would you happen to be familiar with our very own Reformed Guy?

Yes, I'm quite familiar with that guy, I like that he is reformed.

 

[ALAYMAN]

After having watched quite a few more of these episodes, I've only seen two segments that were dedicated to political correctness towards gays.  The most recent one I watched had an interesting theme about bigotry towards Muslims.  A clerk at a diner refused to serve a woman in a head-scarf and called her names like camel-jockey, told her to leave and go back to her camels in the sand, and such.  Many onlookers disgustingly applauded the racist epithets.  As a good soul-liberty-believing Baptist, religious intolerance of ANY kind scares me, particularly the kind that Obama is ushering in with contraceptive law.