Any FFFrs Visit This Church Before?
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Is that an Episcopal church in D.C.?
No. But definitely high church in form.
Hint: locates in Florida
Is the Word taught there?
Most definitely.
Saint Andrews Chapel, Sanford, FL
RC Sproul stsrted it in 1997. Also site of Lignier Ministries.
We walke out the door and RCs gravestone was right outside the entrance.
Saint Andrews Chapel, Sanford, FL
RC Sproul stsrted it in 1997. Also site of Lignier Ministries.
We walke out the door and RCs gravestone was right outside the entrance.
Cool
It appears to be built for preaching. Doesn't seem too accommodating to praise bands or other theatrics. No monitors or giant screens.
I like it.
I like it.
Who's represented in the stained glass windows at the front?
Perhaps they even nailed the pulpit to the floor??
Yep, just zoom in on the portrait hanging on the wall in the second photo. Dead giveaway!
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From the Web site:
The five stained glass windows at the front of the sanctuary depict the Apostle Paul and the Gospel writers: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Matthew is symbolized as a man because his Gospel begins with the human ancestry of Christ. Mark is symbolized by a lion because a lion is the roaring creature of the desert, and his Gospel starts with the story of John the Baptist, “the voice crying out in the wilderness.” Luke is symbolized by an ox, a sacrificial animal, because his Gospel begins with the offering of Zechariah. John is symbolized by an eagle, a bird that soars high into the heavens, because his Gospel “soars into the heavens” at its outset. Jerome (c. 347-420), interpreted the symbolism of the “four creatures” in Ezekiel 1:5-10, Ezekiel 10:14, and Revelation 4:6-7 to represent the four Gospel writers.
It's only a style of worship.
My questions are:
"What style is built for preaching?"
"What style helps someone understand the gospel better?"
"What style makes the gospel message understood?"
"What style exalts the preeminence of Christ?"
Our church in Alabama meets in a high school gymnasium.* Our church is high tech with band and worship team.
The preaching/worship is not lacking in that gym. The preaching/worship in the European-style cathedral has zero advantages over the gym. (I am sure this would/should be a great discussion).
*interesting fact, Tim Cook, the CEO of Apple graduated from this high school.
Even better.
One that is optimized for a speaker, and that is inviting and comfortable for the audience, and that directs their focus to the speaker.
One that is optimized for preaching, and that is inviting and comfortable for the audience, and that directs their focus to the preacher.
You mean what style exalts the preeminence of the Word?
One that is optimized for preaching.
As far as utility is concerned this:
has no advantage over this:
but which one could you sell to the wife?
Architecture is one of the five classical fine arts. Besides utility, it's secondary purpose, as with all art, is to evoke a thought or mood that is all part of doing your business...whatever that business may be.
And in the respect worship and reverence, the European style of cathedral is in every way advantageous.
Cool.
I guess then, the Holy Spirit is unnecessary if the style is right.
Imagine those poor American pioneers back in the day worshipping in log cabins…I guess those people never had a chance since the Holy Spirit couldn’t permeate such lowly structures.
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I'll add one facet of the conversation beginning here...
1Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead. 2There they made him a supper; and Martha served: but Lazarus was one of them that sat at the table with him. 3Then took Mary a pound of ointment of spikenard, very costly, and anointed the feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her hair: and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment. 4Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him, 5Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor? 6This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein. 7Then said Jesus, Let her alone: against the day of my burying hath she kept this. 8For the poor always ye have with you; but me ye have not always.
Church architecture, whether in the vein of "high church" or not, should not be distilled down to the reductionist philosophy of pragmatist utilitarianism. Aesthetic considerations are important in the notion of beauty and truth. Being cheap isn't a Christian virtue, nor is being anti-intellectual.
1Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead. 2There they made him a supper; and Martha served: but Lazarus was one of them that sat at the table with him. 3Then took Mary a pound of ointment of spikenard, very costly, and anointed the feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her hair: and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment. 4Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him, 5Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor? 6This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein. 7Then said Jesus, Let her alone: against the day of my burying hath she kept this. 8For the poor always ye have with you; but me ye have not always.
Church architecture, whether in the vein of "high church" or not, should not be distilled down to the reductionist philosophy of pragmatist utilitarianism. Aesthetic considerations are important in the notion of beauty and truth. Being cheap isn't a Christian virtue, nor is being anti-intellectual.
True enough if you are purposely striving for aestheticism. If all you have is logs and mud, it's all you have.
A great example of this could be applied to the quality of worship music. The bass player on our worship team is a "top shelf" jazz musician. He's largely responsible for the highly refined sound of the music team. However, as skilled as the team is, they minister so as not to allow their talents and abilities to take center stage. The Holy Spirit is still the Agent of bringing the congregation to the presence of God.
Well, I guess the Holy Spirit is unnecessary if the preaching is right.
Or the music. Or the translation. Or the mode of baptistm or the eschatology