Why I believe Trump won.

This time though, their ire was raised because someone tried to kill the candidate twice.
Anecdotal evidence - I have one friend who doesn't like Trump and probably would have voted 3rd party this time, but the day Trump survived that 1st assassination attempt, he was all in on Trump.
 
I don't have an opinon as to why people voted for Trump, but the data does not lie.

About the same number of voters who voted for Trump in 2020 voted for him again. the demographics likely changed a little but the numbers are the same. Over 11 million voters who voted for Biden in 2020 chose not to vote in 2024. Many might say they were not impressed with Kamala enough to show up to the polls or fill out a mail in ballot. I wonder if her refusal to be pinned down on policy had an effect. She clearly did not have the charisma of a Bill Clinton or an Barack Obama. We would have lost badly to either of them or another good candidate.

Demographics say more Hispanic and African American males voted for Trump than ever in history. Male in general voted in large numbers for Trump. Some call this the Bro Vote. White women also voted for Trump in large numbers.

If Republicans are going to survive as a party that matters, they are going to have to become more relevent to the Hispanic and African American vote. With Millennials and Gen Zs becoming voting age and far more politically engaged than those who came before them it will become more and more difficult dfor conservatives to get elected. This demographic is taking much longer to mover to the right as mosts cohorts do.

We can no longer take the christian vote for granted and the traditional middle aged white vote is not longer assured. We must reach out to the blue collor working class voter and the minority vote. Issues like fair trade, taxes, crime, school choice, illegal immigration, and the economy are all issues that resonate with them. We MUST show results like the House did in in 1994 with the contract with America. We must take each issue that's important to the American people and tell them what we are going to do then do it.

Just my 2 cents worth if it's even worth that.
 
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That kind of talk is going to get you in big trouble. 😉
Bad mouthing the GOP was a good start. 😉
but that;s not what got you into trouble...... it was bad mouthing - even condemning - forum members who supported a certain candidate of the GOP.... then denying it later and trying to claim you didn;t say it.....🤨.. ....

of course you could have just apologized and admitted your sock drawer got scrambled.... ;) .... but no.... . you challenged someone here to show proof you said the things that person claimed.. .... and when that person listed a lot of proof you ignored it.... and kept on pretending it was something else.. or some matter of great integrity on your part that got you in trouble.....:rolleyes:.. . ..remember all that?.... . :sneaky:
 
I think the two of you believe the same thing. 😎
 
“Blessed be the name of God forever and ever..............he removes kings and sets up kings;"




Hey.....................just saying



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It has to do with always using the word "believe." Why I believe Christ is the Son of God. Why I believe the rapture will be after the tribulation. Why I believe that Christian School is the only option for Christian Parents. In my mind, that is when to use "believe." Belief has to do with faith, with those things that the bible teaches and we hold to be true based on what we read.

Why I think a woman should not be president. Why I think that Seven Eleven is better than Buc-ees. In those cases, it is what I think.

So then when someone "believes" a different way, it has to do with interpretation of scriptures. And if their belief is based on faulty interpretation, they are not orthdox. In Fundamental Baptist churches and colleges and seminaries, I was taught that Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians, Bible Church, Church of Christ, Southern Baptists, Calvary Chapel, Pentecostals, etc., all believed differently, hence a different gospel. That is a pretty common way of thinking in Fundamental Baptist churches. If you believe differently, you are Not orthodox, or as the old line fundies say, you are a pink lemonade sippnig, virgin birth denying, booze swizzling, movie going, pants wearing liberal.

It feels like you are saying that if I "believe" that trump was elected for different reasons that you do, I am in that non-orthodox category, and we need to separate ecclesiastically. But if I just think differently, we can fellowship.
I don’t disagree with what you posted but it should be made clear that salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone can never be compromised for the sake of unity. You included the “Church of Christ” which I have had a lot of interaction with. My neighbor is a Church of Christ minister who unequivocally believes in baptismal regeneration and he believes I am going to hell because I have not been baptized by one of the ministers of his church. I know there are some in that group who do not teach that such as Max Lucado and others I’m sure but I have never personally met one. I believe there are people in Roman Catholicism and other denominations that add rituals or works of some kind to salvation that have truly been born again in spite of the teachings of their church.

When it comes to the broad coalition President Trump has managed to bring together which includes Hindus (Tulsi Gabbard), homosexuals, Mormons, and those of every other stripe and background who are opposed to turning our nation into a Marxist utopia which the Democrats have embraced, I see nothing wrong as a Christian being part of that coalition. That doesn’t excuse not engaging in personal evangelism to fellow patriotic Americans that need the Savior. The difference between “believing” in Jesus and being “born again” is the difference between believing in a parachute and putting one on.
 
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Let's be honest here. Kamala Harris didn't have a snowball's chance in Tulsa of getting elected:
--The Dems hung on to Biden too long after his sell-by date, as confirmed by the debate
--Harris was shanghaied into candidacy and not really prepared for campaigning for the top spot.
--Carville was right all along; it was the economy, stupid
--Unhindered by what has been, Harris followed the Hillary Clinton playbook and basically phoned the campaign in, thinking she had it in the bag.
 
I don’t disagree with what you posted but it should be made clear that salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone can never be compromised for the sake of unity. You included the “Church of Christ” which I have had a lot of interaction with. My neighbor is a Church of Christ minister who unequivocally believes in baptismal regeneration and he believes I am going to hell because I have not been baptized by one of the ministers of his church. I know there are some in that group who do not teach that such as Max Lucado and others I’m sure but I have never personally met one. I believe there are people in Roman Catholicism and other denominations that add rituals or works of some kind to salvation that have truly been born again in spite of the teachings of their church.

When it comes to the broad coalition President Trump has managed to bring together which includes Hindus (Tulsi Gabbard), homosexuals, Mormons, and those of every other stripe and background who are opposed to turning our nation into a Marxist utopia which the Democrats have embraced, I see nothing wrong as a Christian being part of that coalition. That doesn’t excuse not engaging in personal evangelism to fellow patriotic Americans that need the Savior. The difference between “believing” in Jesus and being “born again” is the difference between believing in a parachute and putting one on.
ok. that had absolutely nothing to do with what I said, but ok.
 
Let's be honest here. Kamala Harris didn't have a snowball's chance in Tulsa of getting elected:
--The Dems hung on to Biden too long after his sell-by date, as confirmed by the debate
--Harris was shanghaied into candidacy and not really prepared for campaigning for the top spot.
--Carville was right all along; it was the economy, stupid
--Unhindered by what has been, Harris followed the Hillary Clinton playbook and basically phoned the campaign in, thinking she had it in the bag.
She was saddled by her and her party’s looney belief system.
She tried to soften and change said looney beliefs but she and they were on the record multiple times endorsing said idiocy.
She was also a horrible candidate…meaning she couldn’t articulate what she believed or how she no longer believed what she really believed.

The Democrat Party idiocy finally caught up with them…from the Covid lockdowns to open border to trans stupidity….most Americans were fed up.

Now we see what Trump and the Republicans will do.
Either to us or for us….
 
The Democrat Party idiocy finally caught up with them…from the Covid lockdowns to open border to trans stupidity….most Americans were fed up.

Now we see what Trump and the Republicans will do.
Either to us or for us….
In all fairness, both parties are to blame for the lockdowns. The other two issues are purely dumb-o-crat owned.

Yes. We'll see what Trump and the GOP will do. They can seize the opportunity, especially in the Senate by coming together with an attitude of getting things done if the remaining RINOS don't sabotage the opportunities.
 
In all fairness, both parties are to blame for the lockdowns. The other two issues are purely dumb-o-crat owned.

Yes. We'll see what Trump and the GOP will do. They can seize the opportunity, especially in the Senate by coming together with an attitude of getting things done if the remaining RINOS don't sabotage the opportunities.
In all fairness that is not true.
When we did not know exactly what Covid was or could do everything shut down. But Democrats continued many of those poly even when we knew the truth. That is what hurt them politically and culturally.
 
In all fairness that is not true.
When we did not know exactly what Covid was or could do everything shut down. But Democrats continued many of those poly even when we knew the truth. That is what hurt them politically and culturally.
A good many Republicans played into the shutdown panic. Idaho governor, Brad (Chicken) Little ruled over the shutdown from Boise with an iron fist. In part to appease the dumbocrat ground swell that RINOS bought into. Dumbocrats led the charge but too many Republicans (especially the RINOS) were definitely accomplices.
 
She was saddled by her and her party’s looney belief system.
She tried to soften and change said looney beliefs but she and they were on the record multiple times endorsing said idiocy.
She was also a horrible candidate…meaning she couldn’t articulate what she believed or how she no longer believed what she really believed.

The Democrat Party idiocy finally caught up with them…from the Covid lockdowns to open border to trans stupidity….most Americans were fed up.

Now we see what Trump and the Republicans will do.
Either to us or for us….
Part of her problem was she kept trying to convince people she's no longer part of the loony left from California, then she paid a bunch of loony leftists from California to campaign for her. In case that wasn't enough she paraded the endorsements of one of the least popular vice presidents and his daughter who, as a sitting congresswomen, couldn't win her party's primary nomination for her seat.
 
A good many Republicans played into the shutdown panic. Idaho governor, Brad (Chicken) Little ruled over the shutdown from Boise with an iron fist. In part to appease the dumbocrat ground swell that RINOS bought into. Dumbocrats led the charge but too many Republicans (especially the RINOS) were definitely accomplices.
The exception that proves the rule.
Democrats used Covid even after evidence was to the contrary to lock down and rule.

The fact is the Democrat Covid policies were a part of Trump’s political gains.
 
The fact is the Democrat Covid policies were a part of Trump’s political gains.
I don't disagree with that. What I'm pointing out is there were those within the Republican party who, either being RINO or allowing themselves to be browbeaten into playing into panic mode followed into the dumbocrat lead. They own the blame for their part. Hopefully, they too have either been left behind by a more sensible GOP or have themselves been drummed out of power.

Sadly, Brad (Chicken) Little is still governor in Idaho.
 
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I believe in the sovereignty of God. I believe that he is intimately interested in and involved in, ordains and controls all that happens. I don't think it as simple as God holding back Satanic Forces. God controls everything and he providentially spared my life in 2011 just as much as he spared DJT's, or anyone for that matter. America is not the center of the universe. Putin is alive because God has determined that he should be alive. Somehow there is this thing going around among Christians, not necessarily here, that GOP politics is what we need to change the world. Hardly.
My faith is as strong today as it was the day I was saved many years ago, but in one area I may have changed my view a little. I once thought God approved and managed every event that goes on and decides what should happen in every circumstance but I have began to wonder if sometimes God takes his hand off and let's things happen. I wonder it there is an internal purpose in all things that happen or if sometimes God just allows things.

Perhaps its my mortal limited brain trying to understand why God would allow mass genocide by the likes of Hitler, Mao Zedong, Stalin, and Pol Pot to even be born let along allow them to murder millions. I think of abortion in our country, why would he allow it. With freewill comes bad decisions and bed people but when does God intervene? I see missionaries surrendered to spend their life on the mission field killed on debutation and evil leaders for thriving at last for now. Is it all part of Gods specific plan or is their some randomness to it all that God allows. Getting caught by a train or getting a flat tire may not be destiny it may actually be luck. The rain does fall on the just and the unjust, but in the end GOD is Holy, God is Just and GOD is perfect in all that he does.

Just a thought
 
My faith is as strong today as it was the day I was saved many years ago, but in one area I may have changed my view a little. I once thought God approved and managed every event that goes on and decides what should happen in every circumstance but I have began to wonder if sometimes God takes his hand off and let's things happen. I wonder it there is an internal purpose in all things that happen or if sometimes God just allows things.

Perhaps its my mortal limited brain trying to understand why God would allow mass genocide by the likes of Hitler, Mao Zedong, Stalin, and Pol Pot to even be born let along allow them to murder millions. I think of abortion in our country, why would he allow it. With freewill comes bad decisions and bed people but when does God intervene? I see missionaries surrendered to spend their life on the mission field killed on debutation and evil leaders for thriving at last for now. Is it all part of Gods specific plan or is their some randomness to it all that God allows. Getting caught by a train or getting a flat tire may not be destiny it may actually be luck. The rain does fall on the just and the unjust, but in the end GOD is Holy, God is Just and GOD is perfect in all that he does.

Just a thought
The words in Romans 1, "Therefore, God gave them over..." may offer insight.
 
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